ProjectMoon Megathread - Lobotomy Corporation, Library of Ruina, Limbus Company, etc.

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"The kind of tired sleep can't cure", by me

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"Do I look 5 Foot 1 to you bitch?", also by me
 
I feel that the Middle IDs are weakest out of the currently released Finger IDs. Most of it stems them not having their "vengeance" passives built in. If their entire thing is beating the shit out of some gook for breaking the rules, then why do I have to waste a turn to either get Envy RES or gather Envy resources for them to care about their "vengeance" when the Ring can just piss out damage and gain stacks from just existing and attacking?

KJH, you fraud. My autism can't be satiated like this.
My main problem with the middle faction is to get vengeance marks you gotta get hit. I feel like the middle is petty enough to mark someone for attempting to fight a member of the middle.
If your good at the game you just don't get hit. If your cursed by being good at the game someones counter didnt go through since you staggered the target
 
I understand what they were going for with The Middle's gimmick but it's just really messy. Obviously you have to take hits to trigger the counter, and that usually gets you mauled against newer bosses, but thankfully the shield they gain is just enough.
The problem though is that it's not easy to know if you'll even trigger the counter (boss stagger, phase end, ID stagger, attack weight...) and thus waste a normal skill usage that could have just done extra damage.
Also, there's nothing to counteract statuses the boss will pile on you, such as bleed, or sinking... at the very least, they'll constantly stack or burst it and debuff your IDs to hell and back.
There's also just status bloat with Sibling Vengeance Mark being a bandaid fix instead of just... giving Sinclair the Vengeance Mark as a passive too? Then they went back on that and gave it to Ishmael again.
I just hope there won't be too much conflict between Middle Sinclair and Middle Heath's vendetta marks as they're consumed on any attack end, meaning if Sinclair goes first then you're cucking Heathcliff out of any status he could consume marks for (if his status works like Sinclair's where he needs to consume vendetta marks).

I wouldn't be too surprised if they jam in things into Middle Heath's passive to fix and smooth out The Middle IDs gimmicks.
 
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Can't wait for when they try to make a Shi ID team leader and go "Awhhhhh fuck~!"
I'm more in anticipation of the future 4th Pack Commanders, although with how they flourish in war we probably won't see their IDs until the Second Smoke War or Canto 11. Especially since Valencia also uses Disposal like Nikolai, I remember hearing about speculation of her connection to the Thumb back in the LoR days but with Disposal being revealed to be part of the Palermitan Style of the Le Sette Famiglie/Seven Families (the Thumb Subfactions?), I'm really interested to see what we'll get from Nikolai.
My current guess is that since we're having the Finger teams filled out right now, we'll either get the Index or Thumb, maybe one of each for the Walpurgis.
 
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Stats for Ricardocliff and Sunset Rodion

Middle Big Bro Heathcliff: Blunt Bleed / Burn (/ Tremor on alternate skill 3) ID, applies vengeance marks on enemies whenever enemies hit self or other middle allies giving buffs to certain skills, gains a unique book of vengeance buff on self whenever enemies hit self or other middle allies giving offense level and defense level up and giving attack weight to both skill 3s, defensive counter is replaced by his regular skill 3 at certain envy resonance rank, envy resonance gives vengeance tattoo buff increasing base skill damage and unlocking his alternate skill 3, alternative skill 3 replaces a regular skill on the board and activates his own theme music until turn end, uses skill 1 as an unopposed attack against enemies that damage self or other middle allies, other middle allies take less damage and resist being staggered whenever they use there defense skills.
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Into the Sunset Rodion: Blunt Bleed / Burn Zayin EGO, gains clash power for bleed + burn on targets, heals allies with lowest % health and applies Scarlet Moth buff to them healing there health and SP until the stack depletes, number of healed allies increases with lust resonance and allies targeted that use a lust skill further heal SP, enemies hit gain wrath and lust fragility next turn, Corrosion deals more damage if theres wrath or lust absolute resonance, passive makes wrath and lust skills deal corresponding affinity damage to a random enemy.
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Ricardocliff not only reducing damage to Middle IDs and preventing staggers but allowing Sinclair to ramp up faster is exactly what I was hoping for with him. Everything about his kit is simple yet effective, but most importantly: functions.
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But this is the most important thing in his entire kit. It's luscious.
 
Ricardocliff's kit is simple & short, yet is insanely powerful. Best thing that could happen to Middle / Envy teams even despite Middle Outis coming up.
With the amount of Bleed & Burn we're getting it would be comical if Season Highlight Ryoshu turns out to barely be Burn and/or Bleed.
 
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The sweepers have two announcers, translated and untranslated Sweeper gibberish.
Ricardocliff's kit is simple & short, yet is insanely powerful. Best thing that could happen to Middle / Envy teams even despite Middle Outis coming up.
I really didn't expect the Burn, just because Kira Ishmael already had good Burn application and decent Bleed application as well, her only problem was that she needed Envy to ignite her blades, which Burn couldn't provide and Bleed just had more consistent options since it wasn't worth running other Middle identities to support her. I guess with Matt Outis we finally have a full core of four Bleed/Burn Units, technically five with N Corp SInclair.
Looks like they're really prioritizing filling out the dual status teams. I imagine that with two more Scorch units coming out soon we might get the Hemorrhage team filled out during the LCD Intervallo since Ezra (LV75) and Vespa (LV87) are Hemorrhage, or we could get even more Bleed/Poise units with a second Kim and a Aeng-du identity,
 
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The sweepers have two announcers, translated and untranslated Sweeper gibberish.

I really didn't expect the Burn, just because Kira Ishmael already had good Burn application and decent Bleed application as well, her only problem was that she needed Envy to ignite her blades, which Burn couldn't provide and Bleed just had more consistent options since it wasn't worth running other Middle identities to support her. I guess with Matt Outis we finally have a full core of four Bleed/Burn Units, technically five with N Corp SInclair.
Looks like they're really prioritizing filling out the dual status teams. I imagine that with two more Scorch units coming out soon we might get the Hemorrhage team filled out during the LCD Intervallo since Ezra (LV75) and Vespa (LV87) are Hemorrhage, or we could get even more Bleed/Poise units with a second Kim and a Aeng-du identity,
Burn and Bleed feels like a hybrid status that should have way more content, they're conceptually really similar to each other after all. I just hope we get something that ties Burn and Bleed together to deal more damage, like Tremor Scorch, otherwise you're just running 2 diluted statuses with little payoff other than it just being an alternative team.
 
Burn and Bleed feels like a hybrid status that should have way more content,
It's probably because of conditionals, Burn is one of the easiest to keep up and unlike Tremor expending it is rare and it does damage on its own. Even Kira Ishmael on her own, with no other Burn units on the team, keeps up the standard 6+ status conditionals up. That and in LoR Burn as a status was pretty distinct mechanically from Bleed, aside from Queen Bee they didn't have any overlap, and looking at the Guests the only one that feels very Bleed-esq is Yuna and maybe Salvador.
Besides there's the flavor of Burn cauterizing wounds, which makes Bleed+Burn seem a bit counterproductive.
 
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I guess with Matt Outis we finally have a full core of four Bleed/Burn Units, technically five with N Corp SInclair.
Matt Outis, Kira Ishmael, Ricardo Heathcliff, Bee Meursault, technically N Corp Sinclair and Ahab Ishmael. Six in total unless I am forgetting someone.
 
Middle Big Bro Heathcliff: Blunt Bleed / Burn (/ Tremor on alternate skill 3)
I see that like RabbitCliff it would be used for some retarded 3 status team compositions. Middle is a good meme team, maybe eventually there will be a boss they'll absolutely counter.
Into the Sunset Rodion: Blunt Bleed / Burn Zayin EGO, gains clash power for bleed + burn on targets, heals allies with lowest % health and applies Scarlet Moth buff to them healing there health and SP until the stack depletes, number of healed allies increases with lust resonance and allies targeted that use a lust skill further heal SP
Sounds fantastic for bleed teams. HP/SP heal is always good and Zayin means it is spammable.
 
I see that like RabbitCliff it would be used for some retarded 3 status team compositions. Middle is a good meme team, maybe eventually there will be a boss they'll absolutely counter.
I was going to say you can't, but then I realized he's like Riensang and has one of the "replace leftmost skill on the dashboard" type of alternate skill. In contrast, skill that are activated after the dashboard like assist attacks or Mao Faust's S3 don't count for the purpose of EGO gifts that have a "Turn Start" effect. But since still you have to get to his S3-2 to activate the EGO Gift it's probably mot worth running him as the glue to stick your triple status team together since the activation of all your EGO Gifts are hanging on him and he won't be able to activate them turn 1.
 
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Ykno I'd thought this would be more painful. Only Team 1 gave me pain phase 2 was kinda easy
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The worst part about learning to read in this game is seeing the boss apply the worst case scenario application of mass "Fuck your shit up" Guache Hardee or whatever it's called twice in a row, leading to a 1/25 chance total obliteration twice in a row as Meur is forced to persuance vs a chained fleshburst and then hearing faintly over the breeze "huh, I wonder why they called that place Rape Alley? I didn't get raped once?"
 
Ricardocliff is amazing as a faction leader, so...

If you could pick one Association or Office to get an extra ID that's up to proper Season 7 powercreep, which would it be?
I'm leaning towards Seven Assoc. because the contrast between IDs would be insanely funny. But in actuality, something like having a "Dossier" stack and cashing it out to apply Weakness Analyzed and other Resistance debuffs along with SP heals and Coin power for other Seven Assoc. IDs before they attack.
The Resistance debuff gimmick is really underrated so it's sad to see Seven Assoc. in the mud
 
Ricardocliff is amazing as a faction leader, so...

If you could pick one Association or Office to get an extra ID that's up to proper Season 7 powercreep, which would it be?
I'm leaning towards Seven Assoc. because the contrast between IDs would be insanely funny. But in actuality, something like having a "Dossier" stack and cashing it out to apply Weakness Analyzed and other Resistance debuffs along with SP heals and Coin power for other Seven Assoc. IDs before they attack.
The Resistance debuff gimmick is really underrated so it's sad to see Seven Assoc. in the mud
I REALLY want a Hana Association/ Charles Office Yi Sang Olivier and Roland Heathcliff. Surely within 2 years we'll be close to that.

As for the Normal Ass Office buffs, give me fucking Liu Director Faust already. Yeah I know we have Moth Faust but frankly she's too suicidal as a unit for my tastes.
 
If you could pick one Association or Office to get an extra ID that's up to proper Season 7 powercreep, which would it be?
If it has to be an over spec ID then I want a 000 seven heathcliff or maybe the destined molar rodion
But for any association I want a Tres Association or Eight Association id, We dont even have a logo for tres association
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