ProjectMoon Megathread - Lobotomy Corporation, Library of Ruina, Limbus Company, etc.

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Association or Office
I want Dieci Director Faust. Make her Sinking/Tremor and be a member of the Keys like Hong Lu is, give her something to increase Insight and a status that melds Sinking and Tremor together like Faint Aroma, and an equivalent to Erudition, something like Wisdom (gives Offense Level up and Clash Power when discarding). Honestly aside from a competent team leader I don't think they'd need much, giving them Tremor also means you can run them alongside F.A.S Ryoshu, Udjat Outis, and Hanafuda Ishmael so they wouldn't have to worry to much about keeping up Tremor and Sinking stacks.
 
If you could pick one Association or Office to get an extra ID that's up to proper Season 7 powercreep, which would it be?
It's tough since gameplay wise most of them suck so bad/powercrept the extra ID won't help anyway. I think Heathcliff's canto could use one more character that pulls all the cast together since they don't fit so well.
 
First pull with just spare tickets. I'll never have that type of luck again in this game, I imagine.
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Ricardocliff is amazing as a faction leader, so...

If you could pick one Association or Office to get an extra ID that's up to proper Season 7 powercreep, which would it be?
I'm leaning towards Seven Assoc. because the contrast between IDs would be insanely funny. But in actuality, something like having a "Dossier" stack and cashing it out to apply Weakness Analyzed and other Resistance debuffs along with SP heals and Coin power for other Seven Assoc. IDs before they attack.
The Resistance debuff gimmick is really underrated so it's sad to see Seven Assoc. in the mud
Can I say Streetlight Office, or does it have to be a faction that's already represented in Limbus?
 
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I'd like to add too that not only can Kiramael keep thermal blades up at all times now, but both her and Heathcardo can completely sustain burn on their own. And Outthias isn't even out yet, who'll give Kiramael more needed buffs. This is great.
 
Yeah, ran a 15 with the middle crew. I did get wealth early on a superstore, which made every gift possible. And ran into the Kira fight boss, so it was fun just smashing it up. It will be nice when we get Otis, because I was using NFaust, and despite it being a skill one, I had to throw hex nails way more than I thought I would. New cliff is pretty rad.
 
It's a bit funny that Tremor, already the strongest MD Status, got 3 gifts from the new update while Sinking and Poise got nothing. (even if one of those gifts is Charge/Self-Tremor). Even Rupture got a new gift while Bleed has another 3 gifts, although those are aimed towards Bloodfiends. The Middle also now has 5 unique EGO gifts, I guess The Thumb, Index and Pinky had a bit to catch up with them and the Ring.
It's a bit funny, but the biggest winners from the new EGO gifts are the triple status teams that are already strongest in MD15.

Sinking/Tremor with Ammo. (technically not not true triple status)
  • Solemn Lament Yi Sang (Sinking, Ammo)
  • Hanafuda Ishmael (Sinking/Tremor)
  • KoD, Ring Rodya, or Wei Don (Mono-sinking, really any Sinking ID works here but you can't run Lamp Gregor due to Desperado.)
  • F.A.a.S Ryoshu (Sinking/Tremor, Ammo)
  • Thumb Sinclair (Burn/Tremor, Ammo)
  • Lei Heng Meursault (Burn/Tremor, Ammo)
  • LCA Udjat Outis (Sinking/Tremor, Ammo)
Then Full-stop Heatchliff, Hong Lu, and Twin Hook Gregor on backup to trigger Desperado's 8+ bonus. The team actually has trouble with conversions since the Scorch units override Decay and they don't have any native form of entanglement, but the Ichthys gift "Clappty Clap" solves that issue for them. While "For the Capo" is just more bursts. Really the only thing this team needs is Faust, Don, or Rodya to get an Ammo ID so you can run Lamp Gregor.
Edit: The restriction of needing to run Ammo IDs also prevents you from running Wildhunt Heathcliff, who despite being mono-status, can run the "King in Binds" dual status EGO, which has a really good corrosion for clearing waves on higher floors.

Bleed/Charge/Rupture. (The order is important here due to certain Charge gifts)
  1. Callisto Hong Lu (Bleed/Charge)
  2. Albina Faust (Bleed/Charge)
  3. Prince Meursault (Bleed/Rupture)
  4. Princess Rodya (Bleed/Rupture)
  5. AEDD Gregor (Charge/Rupture)
  6. Rabbit Heathcliff (Bleed/Charge/Rupture)
  7. W Corp Don Quixote (Charge/Rupture)
These guys are already drowning in EGO gifts and they don't have any big problems, just pick the Bloodfiend packs and the fairy one for the Tremor/Charge gift. It's just more coin power and damage, what more could you want.
 
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Kim JiHoon if you can hear me, release Matthias Outis soon. Get these homicidal reindeer out of my team and make way for more Middle kino.

Speaking of Matthias Outis, I really wonder how they'll handle her Unboxing / Laevateinn stages. If they don't overcomplicate it and make it tied to the S3, it'll be really good for Envy teams but pretty much nothing else, simpler Burn or Bleed teams will have a harder time getting the 6 Res for sure.
It could be something like HP gates + S3.
 
I'm currently in Korea, and I thought I'd share some of my noticing's.
No pictures yet, because knowing me I'd capture myself in a reflection and I've not got the time to be running around checking. He says while browsing kiwifarms.

1. Nests and backstreets are real. Like no joke, no exaggeration, no meming. There are huge apartments sectioned off with walls that seem to be their own little civilization, each of them surround what eurofags define as "walkable cities". Outside of this is god knows what. I saw what looks like terrace farming. I'm going to try to make my way out there at some point once I get confirmation it's safe. I'm tempted to go now, the Caucasian in me demands I grab a stick and go exploring, but carrying a weapon is illegal and those K-Corp niggas might be real too.

Everything outside the nests look like they need to be powerwashed. Everything inside the nests looks like they've been powerwashed once to many times.


2. The distortion detective chapter where they are navigating between nests and they have to deal with paying a fee or driving through the backstreets is horrifically accurate, almost comedically so. I was checking the maps because I noticed we went through pay tolls a lot, an 8 minute drive became 4 hours and 30 minutes if you didn't want to pay a toll. It appears like the actual arteries of South Korea are privately owned. As a lolbertarian I must assumed this is based and has no serious consequences.


3. Every driver is Charon and by Charon I mean a lab experiment with no empathy, impossibly good reflexes, and no instinct against turning you into a red stain. Walking around is magical because you see drivers play chicken with each other and pedestrians all the time. Trucks will nose into lanes and cars just won't give a fuck until they physically can't make it past. Crosswalks are mandatory but stopping at a crosswalk is for pussies. Instead act like you are going to commit 20x counts of vehicular homicide and stop right before you do. What's crazy is it just doesn't ever seem to result in that.

4. Everyone here is autistic and scared of confrontation. I should have enough korean to cave-man-talk my way through basic interactions but the few times I've done so outside of the tourist areas the clerk looks like a deer in headlights and says nothing and when I say hello they then look like a WOUNDED deer in headlights and it makes it hard to inflict that upon them (I too and probably autistic) [Also INB4 my korean is just shit, I've tested it with Papago and some korean friends and it seems to be at least level 2 caveman[

Also, if anyone is ever going over here, I strongly recommend paying the extra price of a hotel in Seoul. There's nothing wrong with the other places, there's just zero catering to foreigners. I don't mean this in the "SPEAK ENGLISH REEEE" way I mean you'll see a warning sign that says "Hoenganbodo" with an arrow and then the Korean word "Hoenganbodo".

Remember how I mentioned everyone is Charon? Yeah that's supposed to say "Crosswalk" and tell you not to cross here but they just did it phonetically. Thankfully I mistranslated "Crosswalk" for "Dangerwalk" so I didn't get bisected by an expressionless gray woman but it's stuff like that.
 
Speaking of Matthias Outis, I really wonder how they'll handle her Unboxing / Laevateinn stages.
I think it'll be something like Calisto, Albina, and Kira's swords/Grudge & tattoos crossed with the unique buffs the Bloodfiends have have like Bloodied Hand/Scissors/Blooming Thorn. You start out only applying Bleed and have to build up and expend a resource that's converted into a Multi-stage buff that unlocks Burn and some other bonuses, with your other team members helping funnel Outis resources.
Matthias already has something like that with Sealed Sword/First Seal Removed/Second Seal Remove/Lævateinn.
 
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Very cool ego gift Kim, would pick up again.
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I lost most of the spins :lossmanjack:
The problem though is that it's not easy to know if you'll even trigger the counter (boss stagger, phase end, ID stagger, attack weight...) and thus waste a normal skill usage that could have just done extra damage.
Funny you say that, seems like they tried to address that in mirror dungeons through an ego gift. It is surprisingly easy to obtain too, fused with 2 general bleed gifts and one exclusive tier 2 blunt gift from the Nocturnal Sweeping bokgak.
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I was going to shard him next week, but decided to spend the 20 pulls that come from the exchange shop and I got him on the 11th result. The ego can wait.
 
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Unhinged schizo take: The reason Ricardocliff has this passive is because Middle Outis will kill Middle Ishmael so you can have Ricardocliff sub in (this would be the worst designed synergy / strategy in the game)
 
Unhinged schizo take: The reason Ricardocliff has this passive is because Middle Outis will kill Middle Ishmael so you can have Ricardocliff sub in (this would be the worst designed synergy / strategy in the game)
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Don't forget his support passive! Although more seriously the Middle is already so strong with Heathcliff I'm actually a bit curious how Matt Outis will turn out. In Mirror Dungeons, even without Matthais' EGO gift, the Middle is basically immortal and performs better than triple status IDs since they don't even have to clash to obliterate you. They don't even benefit from Bleed gifts that much, and the K. Corp Ampules gift is a safety net you won't need most of the time either.
It's actually a bit crazy since the entire team is locked to Max Starlight right now, counting Lord Hong Lu, the Maoists, and Ring this is the highest amount of units we've ever had giving free Starlight.

In comparison, even the Ring with it's four EGO gifts doesn't live up to the Middle, despite having a full team. Although in their case it's because their gifts don't encourage you to run a full team, although it makes the Fauvists and Corprotists pretty flexible. Either way being able to run Fauvist Rodya on Sinking+Tremor as well as Poise+Sinking is nice.
 
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