Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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Nauseated Courgi said:
Yep
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Remember how Battle Revolution on the Wii could connect to D/P wirelessly? Battle Revolution was the first "Stadium" game to do that, and the last "Stadium" game. You could also get monsters of the pocket from Revolution as prizes, like a Magmortar and whatever that evolution of Electabuzz is.

Also remember when wireless giveaways of rare pokeymens to D/P were a thing at places like GameStop or Toys "R" Us?

(wow I feel old now lol)
 
ToroidalBoat said:
They're already making a remake of Diamond and Pearl? I still remember when the original Diamond and Pearl were brand new.
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15 years ago this year in Japan. You old buddy


StraightShooter2 said:
All I remember is that in the earlier ones, the AI battles were extremely easy and just boiled down to matching the correct element (e.x. water, fire, grass, etc).

You could be 10-20 levels below your opponent, and as long as you used the right element, you could kill all of his Pokemon in 1-2 shots. The AI was also pretty stupid and would do stuff like heal itself even when its HP bar was full.
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That sounds like you just played Gen 1 and stopped, can't really judge the entire franchise on that. A bit harder to pull that stunt now with better AI and enemy teams using moves that cover their weaknesses. Now I'm not saying the main game is super hard since it's still mainly for kids, but you do have to pay attention
 
KingofNothing said:
15 years ago this year in Japan.
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holy crap already?

I'm old enough to remember the world before 9/11. Part of the pre-9/11 world was the BS downloading Mew to a cartridge from a machine at special Nintendo events that may visit a mall in your city.

so yeah old lol
 
Nauseated Courgi said:
It's best to keep in mind that that was presentation footage. While GF isn't known for their coding prowess, they still have a year to touch up and polish things.
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Funny given it was Iwata's amazing coding skills that made Kanto possible to be visited in Gen 2 at all. Gen 2 continues to stand out from all the others to this day for that fact alone.

Good man, kind man, that Iwata. May he rest in peace
 
I’m naively optimistic about these.
Gen 4 was my main gen.
Also I like the little chibi art style, don’t know why so many people are against it.

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On a semi-related note apparently an insider leaked some "Switch Pro" specifications, and it will do 4k when docked. I assume the dock will have it's own processor and graphics card to manage the upscaling. I wonder if the Arceus gameplay we saw was on current or next gen Switch hardware. If it was on the more powerful hardware that's even more worrying.

 
Coming up to 500 pages, I feel like the thread is very... cautious. Some are cautiously optimistic, some are just not getting their hopes up. It's a notable shift from the outright pessimism, but we'll have to wait to see if the mood improves or sours.
 
ToroidalBoat said:
Remember how Battle Revolution on the Wii could connect to D/P wirelessly? Battle Revolution was the first "Stadium" game to do that, and the last "Stadium" game. You could also get monsters of the pocket from Revolution as prizes, like a Magmortar and whatever that evolution of Electabuzz is.

Also remember when wireless giveaways of rare pokeymens to D/P were a thing at places like GameStop or Toys "R" Us?

(wow I feel old now lol)
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I remember the first giveaway I went to was to get a Shaymin for DPPT at Toys R Us.
 
Disc said:
Coming up to 500 pages, I feel like the thread is very... cautious. Some are cautiously optimistic, some are just not getting their hopes up. It's a notable shift from the outright pessimism, but we'll have to wait to see if the mood improves or sours.
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It was kind of the same when Sword and Shield were first announced and look what happened there.

I'm in the cautiously optimistic camp for both games. At worst, the Diamond and Pearl remakes are just going to be a slightly upscaled, Chibi-fied copypaste of the original games, but we've already heard that some stuff from Platinum has seeped in, so hopefully we get the rest too.

Arceus Legends looks more likely to be a Sword and Shield 2.0, but we'll have to wait and see.
 
... fuck, i just realized. they're going to have the type-retconned fairy types in sinnoh, right?
they don't even need to gimp cynthia's team level-wise to nerf her if they don't exclude fairy types.
 
Reshiram Battle.mp3 said:
... fuck, i just realized. they're going to have the type-retconned fairy types in sinnoh, right?
they don't even need to gimp cynthia's team level-wise to nerf her if they don't exclude fairy types.
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A massive portion of Sinnoh's areas had very prominent ice-types. Having people use fairy for dragons is actually arguably a buff, as they don't get 4x against Garchomp and are weak to lucario.
 
Reshiram Battle.mp3 said:
... fuck, i just realized. they're going to have the type-retconned fairy types in sinnoh, right?
they don't even need to gimp cynthia's team level-wise to nerf her if they don't exclude fairy types.
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I'm really hoping the Exp Share has the option to be turned off.

I know it's a kids game but there really should be more ways to increase the difficulty in Pokemon games since they make them so easy, with the exception of the higher levels of the competitive practice grounds like the Battle Tower. 5th Gen had a hard mode that was greatly appreciated, and other than self imposed challenges like No Items, or Nuzlocke rules the games have become stupid easy.

TheImportantFart said:
It was kind of the same when Sword and Shield were first announced and look what happened there.

I'm in the cautiously optimistic camp for both games. At worst, the Diamond and Pearl remakes are just going to be a slightly upscaled, Chibi-fied copypaste of the original games, but we've already heard that some stuff from Platinum has seeped in, so hopefully we get the rest too.

Arceus Legends looks more likely to be a Sword and Shield 2.0, but we'll have to wait and see.
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With some of the Platinum stuff being in game, and this not being Game Freak, maybe we'll finally get another Battle Frontier. I know it's extremely :optimistic: to hope for that, but a man can dream right? I just want any kind of post game other than a generic Battle Tower.
 
Disc said:
A massive portion of Sinnoh's areas had very prominent ice-types. Having people use fairy for dragons is actually arguably a buff, as they don't get 4x against Garchomp and are weak to lucario.
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true, but (edit: sorry about not knowing how this shit would work)
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neither of her lucario, depending on which team version the remake uses, packs an actual steel-type move to smack around a fairy with. if you come packing your own togekiss, you have fairy/flying, which trivializes garchomp's eq and weakens its dragon rush and brick break, and her spiritomb is weak to fairy moves. roserade's sludge bomb will be a bitch, but if you pick chimchar as starter then you already have your check against roserade in infernape. I might be missing something (and hopefully the remake will account for this) but unless the lucario packs a steel move then it's a non-issue. in that regard.
now, if they go raw in the diamond and pearl stuff and don't have platinum's dex expansion and thus no togekiss to use, there's still huge power azumarill, which would be water/fairy, which would typing-wise be favorable in a matchup strictly against the garchomp, but is checked easily by roserade, but if you let that happen then your iq is below the sea level.

not saying it's going to make ice types useless, because i still prefer going in with ice punch weavile because i prefer that pokemon more, but it gives more tools than there were before to beat her ace with.
 
Reshiram Battle.mp3 said:
true, but (edit: sorry about not knowing how this shit would work)
View attachment 1969550neither of her lucario, depending on which team version the remake uses, packs an actual steel-type move to smack around a fairy with. if you come packing your own togekiss, you have fairy/flying, which trivializes garchomp's eq and weakens its dragon rush and brick break, and her spiritomb is weak to fairy moves. roserade's sludge bomb will be a bitch, but if you pick chimchar as starter then you already have your check against roserade in infernape. I might be missing something (and hopefully the remake will account for this) but unless the lucario packs a steel move then it's a non-issue. in that regard.
now, if they go raw in the diamond and pearl stuff and don't have platinum's dex expansion and thus no togekiss to use, there's still huge power azumarill, which would be water/fairy, which would typing-wise be favorable in a matchup strictly against the garchomp, but is checked easily by roserade, but if you let that happen then your iq is below the sea level.

not saying it's going to make ice types useless, because i still prefer going in with ice punch weavile because i prefer that pokemon more, but it gives more tools than there were before to beat her ace with.
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There has NEVER been a case where a Pokemon remake kept the movesets of major trainer's Pokemon anywhere near the same. I mean, even the extremely easy Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee gave Lance's Dragonite Iron Tail.
 
Dunsparce said:
There has NEVER been a case where a Pokemon remake kept the movesets of major trainer's Pokemon anywhere near the same. I mean, even the extremely easy Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee gave Lance's Dragonite Iron Tail.
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Even still, if lucario comes in with an iron type move, it'll end up outsped by both infernape and staraptor, two pretty common team picks that can exploit its steel typing with fire lulz and close combat. Even if lucario starts having steel moves, I'm not saying you can or really even should solo Cynthia with a single fairy type. I would say that if remake garchomp packs a steel move, it's not impossible to TM or egg move a fairy move onto a non-fairy pokemon. adding fairy type adds potentially very useful pokemon as well as a whole nother type you can use when TMing in coverage moves on non-fairy mons. not only can you do that with ice like in the past, you can do the same with fairy now too. It's just more shit to add into the toolkit against that fucking awful garchomp
 
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