Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[starborn427614]

This supposed beta version of the Gym Leader theme for SwSh is pretty good

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

I watch a Youtube channel about the meta of Pokemon games from time to time (since the only exposure to it was when I played it in elementary school), and it seems to me like it is one of the worst balanced "popular" games. Like, every competition is dominated by the same 4+ Pokemon with the rest slightly alternating. You have literally hundreds of different Pokemon yet the amount of the ones used are barely at 20.

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

I watch a Youtube channel about the meta of Pokemon games from time to time (since the only exposure to it was when I played it in elementary school), and it seems to me like it is one of the worst balanced "popular" games. Like, every competition is dominated by the same 4+ Pokemon with the rest slightly alternating. You have literally hundreds of different Pokemon yet the amount of the ones used are barely at 20.

That's the competitive scene for you; "Don't experiment with the new or weaker mons (or at least not the ones 'Competitively Viable') just stick with what works!"

 

[Dunsparce]

It's actually 5,000 but yeah. Pokédex entries have always been a little ridiculous, but the fun thing about it is the fact that the flavor text gives the Pokémon more personality.
Though, I feel Pokémon Adventures manga did a better job at giving Pokémon their own personalities, as well as being much more "mature" with their themes.

An example is that one super huge Haunter that literally eats people's souls.

The Haunter thing was from a completely different Pokemon Manga than Adventures, that one used bizzaro versions the anime characters.

Pokemon had had a lot of manga series over the years, and Special/Adventures will probably be the longest one now that the very first Pokemon manga, which was simply called Pocket Monsters(it was the one with the weird Clefairy that got directly referenced in the anime in Gen III) is ending.

 

[Creep3r]

The Haunter thing was from a completely different Pokemon Manga than Adventures, that one used bizzaro versions the anime characters.

Pokemon had had a lot of manga series over the years, and Special/Adventures will probably be the longest one now that the very first Pokemon manga, which was simply called Pocket Monsters(it was the one with the weird Clefairy that got directly referenced in the anime in Gen III) is ending.

If I remember right, the badass Haunter was from Electric Tale of Pikachu where Sabrina was overly nice and had a thing with Brock, and where Ash's Charizard actually fought in the Indigo League and almost killed that other kid (Richard or some shit) and his pokemon.

 

[Vapewizard]

I watch a Youtube channel about the meta of Pokemon games from time to time (since the only exposure to it was when I played it in elementary school), and it seems to me like it is one of the worst balanced "popular" games. Like, every competition is dominated by the same 4+ Pokemon with the rest slightly alternating. You have literally hundreds of different Pokemon yet the amount of the ones used are barely at 20.

It's been a while since I was into the competitive scene myself but I figured that at the very least in the smogon sense that is why they had those tiers, so that if you wanted to play with more varied teams you could still go to a different tier than OU so you wouldn't immediately get swept by an overtuned murderdragon.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

It's been a while since I was into the competitive scene myself but I figured that at the very least in the smogon sense that is why they had those tiers, so that if you wanted to play with more varied teams you could still go to a different tier than OU so you wouldn't immediately get swept by an overtuned murderdragon.

If anything the tier system is a complete shit since it devolved into last gen's OU

 

[Mangy Mutt]

All this competitive talk brings back some banging memories.

I was never one for using all the teams everyone else used because that's just fucking boring -- though Toxic Orb Gliscor and Eviolite Chansey are hilariously fucking evil -- my mons were mostly just assholes. A particularly fun set I had back in gen 6 was a Cofagrigus with Will-o-Wisp, Curse, Hex and Protect holding Leftovers. He was a cause for many ragequits especially against setup sweepers. Throw a Curse on their Swords Dance-spamming Ninjask behind a Substitute who then baton passed to their now seemingly invincible Garchomp.

Sit back and watch as Curse destroys their entire setup while my bitch sarcophagus sits comfortably behind Protect, Leftovers and maxed defense. It's way more fun to fuck around with dumb shit than follow the same basic and predictable Smogon sets. Shame the stupid Dynamaxing bullshit destroyed any fun to be had with these kind of sets. I'll be glad to see it gone with the next generation.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

All this competitive talk brings back some banging memories.

I was never one for using all the teams everyone else used because that's just fucking boring -- though Toxic Orb Gliscor and Eviolite Chansey are hilariously fucking evil -- my mons were mostly just assholes. A particularly fun set I had back in gen 6 was a Cofagrigus with Will-o-Wisp, Curse, Hex and Protect holding Leftovers. He was a cause for many ragequits especially against setup sweepers. Throw a Curse on their Swords Dance-spamming Ninjask behind a Substitute who then baton passed to their now seemingly invincible Garchomp.

Sit back and watch as Curse destroys their entire setup while my bitch sarcophagus sits comfortably behind Protect, Leftovers and maxed defense. It's way more fun to fuck around with dumb shit than follow the same basic and predictable Smogon sets. Shame the stupid Dynamaxing bullshit destroyed any fun to be had with these kind of sets. I'll be glad to see it gone with the next generation.

My dude, do you know about Contrary Shuckle?

Rest, Toxic, Infestation, Shell Smash. Give it Leftovers. Give it a Defense/SpDefense boosting nature, 252HP/28Def/228SpDef (switch the Def/SpDef around if you have a SpDef boosting nature), and laugh maniacally as your opponent will desperately try to land a super effective crit. or become desperate to try everything under the sun and fail miserably.

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

My dude, do you know about Contrary Shuckle?

Rest, Toxic, Infestation, Shell Smash. Give it a Defense/SpDefense boosting nature, 252HP/28Def/228SpDef (switch the Def/SpDef around if you have a SpDef boosting nature), and laugh maniacally as your opponent will desperately try to land a super effective crit. or become desperate to try everything under the sun and fail miserably.

I see your Shuckle and raise you my Clefable.

Minimize, Cosmic Power, Stored Power and Moonblast. Give it some leftovers or safety Goggles, along with the ability Magic guard, and this will be a guaranteed annoyance to anyone you fight against.

 

[Wingnut]

My dude, do you know about Contrary Shuckle?

Rest, Toxic, Infestation, Shell Smash. Give it Leftovers. Give it a Defense/SpDefense boosting nature, 252HP/28Def/228SpDef (switch the Def/SpDef around if you have a SpDef boosting nature), and laugh maniacally as your opponent will desperately try to land a super effective crit. or become desperate to try everything under the sun and fail miserably.

A super effective crit that will still only do something like 1/3 of your HP unless they have a significant setup. Shuckle has the potential to be the most evil Pokemon I swear.

Shame the stupid Dynamaxing bullshit destroyed any fun to be had with these kind of sets. I'll be glad to see it gone with the next generation.

I'm hoping that whatever's next, Gen 9 or Gen 4 remakes, we get the return of mega-evolution. It was by far the coolest gimmick they've added and made many pokemon jump in usability. Hell, Beedrill went from the worst fully evolved pokemon in the game to OU with the flip of a switch. Maybe if we're lucky we'll even get some new megas for underused mons like Seaking, Tropius, or Dunsparce.

Honestly, I didn't hate SWSH like a lot of people seemed to. Obviously not having the national dex was a dumb idea, but I enjoyed the games for what they were and they had so many quality of life improvements for building viable competitive specced pokemon. The music though is by far the highlight of gen 8, the gym theme and Marnie's Elite 4 theme are a fucking bop and a half.

Dynamaxing was an interesting gimmick, but it's super limited compared to something like mega-evolution. The special G-max forms are cool looking, but the special moves some of them have are outright OP and break any kind of stable meta.

 

[Lapis Lazuli]

A super effective crit that will still only do something like 1/3 of your HP unless they have a significant setup. Shuckle has the potential to be the most evil Pokemon I swear.



I'm hoping that whatever's next, Gen 9 or Gen 4 remakes, we get the return of mega-evolution. It was by far the coolest gimmick they've added and made many pokemon jump in usability. Hell, Beedrill went from the worst fully evolved pokemon in the game to OU with the flip of a switch. Maybe if we're lucky we'll even get some new megas for underused mons like Seaking, Tropius, or Dunsparce.

Honestly, I didn't hate SWSH like a lot of people seemed to. Obviously not having the national dex was a dumb idea, but I enjoyed the games for what they were and they had so many quality of life improvements for building viable competitive specced pokemon. The music though is by far the highlight of gen 8, the gym theme and Marnie's Elite 4 theme are a fucking bop and a half.

Dynamaxing was an interesting gimmick, but it's super limited compared to something like mega-evolution. The special G-max forms are cool looking, but the special moves some of them have are outright OP and break any kind of stable meta.

Dynamax is just Z-Moves and Megas fused together.

 

[UntimelyDhelmise]

Dynamax is just Z-Moves and Megas fused together.

That you can spam for 3 consecutive turns. Also it'd be more accurate to say both types of Z-moves and Megas, since with a couple special exceptions (like Kommo-o's and Mew's) Z-moves were either a nuke or raised stats. Dynamax not only does both but the extra effects can be even more broken than just raising a stat, like summoning weather or terrains and all the additives they naturally come with.

 

[Wingnut]

That you can spam for 3 consecutive turns. Also it'd be more accurate to say both types of Z-moves and Megas, since with a couple special exceptions (like Kommo-o's and Mew's) Z-moves were either a nuke or raised stats. Dynamax not only does both but the extra effects can be even more broken than just raising a stat, like summoning weather or terrains and all the additives they naturally come with.

Oh you want a 130 base power attack that also gives you stealth rock, and a 130 base power attack that gives you a more powerful version of fire spin?
Well of course you can have it, and you still get to hold an item too!

 

[Etrian Autistry]

My favorite set is from 4chan's /vp/ list of pokemom showdown memes, a Drapion by the name of Citizen Snips. Set him up to be as bulky as possible and give him black sludge so he regens. His moves are Knock Off, Accupressure, Rest and Sleep Talk. Accupressure is a move that randomly raises a stat of yours by two levels. This includes accuracy and EVASION. If you manage to get some bulk and evasion increases, you're unkillable. A few other pokemon can pull off the same strategy, but none as well as Drapion because its only weak to ground, and its ability Battle Armor means its impossible to land crits on him, meaning its inpossible to bypass his boosted defenses. I love tossing him out on stallmons or even as just a last stand and letting the roulette spin to see whether I die or make a complete, brutal comeback on the back of my baby scorp friend.

 

[Jean Lafitte 1812]

If we're going to talk about winning through dumb shit, I have a story from back when I used to play the online TCG.

I made a really bad deck around Mew and Mewtwo from the Evolutions expansion, which was XY's nostalgia-bait expansion where all the cards were styled after Gen 1 cards. I just love Mew and wanted to use a deck based on it and EVO Mewtwo wasn't terrible for a 1-prize Basic Pokemon. So my opponent has this competitive Golisopod GX core where he'd switch every turn to spam First Impression. He's sitting there with 1 prize left (he had K.O.'d my Pokemon 5 times) and and 6 powerful evolved Pokemon in play, and I just have my little 40 HP Mew and haven't taken a prize. But EVO Mew had an ability that said evolved Pokemon couldn't damage it and the meta of the time revolved around evolved GX Pokemon. The guy desperately searched through his deck to find something that could dislodge my Mew wall, found nothing, and conceded before he decked out. Still have no idea how I pulled that one out of my ass.

Also had a fun Goodra deck that could do 200 damage bench snipes and I could set up multiple Goodra quickly using Sligoo's divide attack. Good times.

 

[Archeops]

Well... I’m expect the TCG’s rumored 25th anniversary set to be an absolute shitshow again. Guess what was just leaked?

Spoiler: MORE DESPAIR

Oh, and due to Coof and the wave release of Champion’s Path it seems that Vivid Voltage, the next main set in the TCG, is going to be VERY hard to find for a bit. I’m already seeing people flip the $19.99 Build and Battle Boxes for $60 or more online. The GOOD news is that a small initial wave has been TPCi’s way of handling past stock issues caused by overprinting crap sets.

If we're going to talk about winning through dumb shit, I have a story from back when I used to play the online TCG.

I made a really bad deck around Mew and Mewtwo from the Evolutions expansion, which was XY's nostalgia-bait expansion where all the cards were styled after Gen 1 cards. I just love Mew and wanted to use a deck based on it and EVO Mewtwo wasn't terrible for a 1-prize Basic Pokemon. So my opponent has this competitive Golisopod GX core where he'd switch every turn to spam First Impression. He's sitting there with 1 prize left (he had K.O.'d my Pokemon 5 times) and and 6 powerful evolved Pokemon in play, and I just have my little 40 HP Mew and haven't taken a prize. But EVO Mew had an ability that said evolved Pokemon couldn't damage it and the meta of the time revolved around evolved GX Pokemon. The guy desperately searched through his deck to find something that could dislodge my Mew wall, found nothing, and conceded before he decked out. Still have no idea how I pulled that one out of my ass.

Also had a fun Goodra deck that could do 200 damage bench snipes and I could set up multiple Goodra quickly using Sligoo's divide attack. Good times.

Seeing as how you mentioned that their deck was considered competitive I’m guessing they were probably running some version of the Golisopod-GX deck seen here, although I’d need to know the exact year to make a better guess. As for how you sneaked the win my guess is that they were looking for a combination of cards rather than a single one, a lot of cards in that deck CAN OHKO Mew EVO but they either need Professor Kukui to boost their 30 to 50 and/or they need a DCE to fulfill the energy requirements for the attack.

You basically got an insane amount of luck.

 

[Jean Lafitte 1812]

I couldn't actually find a Mew and Mewtwo deck on my TCGO account, only a Mew and Lunala GX one. I'll put the most likely deck I was using in the spoiler, but I swear I had a Mew and Mewtwo deck at some point and I may have deleted it.

Spoiler: Deck List

****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******

##Pokémon - 17

* 1 Tauros-GX SUM 100
* 3 Cosmog SUM 64
* 2 Mew EVO 53
* 3 Cosmoem SUM 65
* 1 Toxapex-GX GRI 57
* 2 Lunala GRI 61
* 2 Lunala-GX PR-SM 17
* 3 Mareanie GRI 39

##Trainer Cards - 31

* 2 Rescue Stretcher GRI 130
* 3 Wally ROS 94
* 3 Ultra Ball DEX 102
* 4 N DEX 96
* 3 Professor's Letter BKT 146
* 3 Wishful Baton BUS 128
* 2 Guzma BUS 115
* 2 Pokémon Center Lady FLF 93
* 2 Altar of the Moone GRI 117
* 3 Max Potion BKP 103
* 4 Professor Sycamore XY 122

##Energy - 12

* 10 Psychic Energy EVO 95
* 2 Double Colorless Energy EVO 90

Total Cards - 60

****** Deck List Generated by the Pokémon TCG Online www.pokemon.com/TCGO ******

The guy had 6 evolved Pokemon in play between his Golsiopod and Lurantis, and I don't think he had any way to remove one of his own Pokemon to bring in a Basic to attack Mew with.

 

[Ido]

Got Azurill in shield and I'm just sitting here, drunk, upset at what a wasted opportunity the pikachu clones are. I seriously wish they had gone with different types as opposed to electric. Plusle and minum are the worst of this, super uncreative.

 

[Picklechu]

I keep trying to take down Zygarde, but the idiots I keep getting paired with for max raids keep getting fucking murdered. Every single time, someone has brought an electric, steel, and/or poison type, which Zygarde then OHKOs.

I see your Shuckle and raise you my Clefable.

Minimize, Cosmic Power, Stored Power and Moonblast. Give it some leftovers or safety Goggles, along with the ability Magic guard, and this will be a guaranteed annoyance to anyone you fight against.

This fucker is why my Excadrill carries Smart Strike instead of Iron Head.