Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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I think the game looks pretty damn rough and I'm not planning on buying it, but I think you guys are getting a little hyperbolic with how bad this is going to be.

At worst it's another mediocre Pokemon game that is now burdened with negative hype and being overpriced. Hopefully this winds up being meaningful in the long run, but implying that Pokemon is now a dead franchise because of a bunch of mediocre games and one stinker is a bit much.

Just remember that there are like probably 5 good Sonic games tops and his brand is still chugging along like a zombified trucker. Killing a brand takes a lot, especially one as universal as Pokemon.
As I said earlier it is not like 06 it is more like forces if anything, based heavily on an previous game but lacking alot of refinements, features and overall content. so the resulting game feels like a step back from the previous ones, and more hollow and without an identity of it's own. It's a jack of all trades and master of none.
 
Well at least we can agree on the villian team leader ratings

Cyrus> Ghetsis>Guzma>giovanni>maxie=archie>lusamine>lysandre>whatever that tip shit rocket guy from gen 2 is called.
 
Cyrus> Ghetsis>Guzma>giovanni>maxie=archie>lusamine>lysandre>whatever that tip shit rocket guy from gen 2 is called.
Yes if only because Cyrus was a big enough autist to convince a bunch of idiots to rebirth the world only for him to be the only living being there besides giratina and somehow it all work
also I am pretty sure Rose is at the bottom of it all due to how retarded his plan is
 
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Yes if only because Cyrus was a big enough autist to convince a bunch of idiots to rebirth the world only for him to be the only living being there besides giratina and somehow it all work
he found out the world he wanted existed all along, so he won.


can cyrus kino ever be topped?
 
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Well at least we can agree on the villian team leader ratings

Cyrus> Ghetsis>Guzma>giovanni>maxie=archie>lusamine>lysandre>whatever that tip shit rocket guy from gen 2 is called.
Maxie and Archie are straight retarded, the only positive is that they help you once they realize how stupid their plans are. Lusamine is at least an interesting commentary on abusive parents and a cool foil to guzma. Lysander is apparently better in the anime too, but I haven’t actually watched it.
Archie/Maxie do have the best theme music though.
 
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Guzma is best villain because he's not bent on world domination or genocide or restarting the universe or any of that small dick syndrome shit. He's just a punkass shithead ruling over a bunch of other punkass shitheads. Also he managed to take over a city. A walled city. Dude won a fucking siege with nothing but dumb wiggers and unevolved Pokemon.
 

Text dump from the menus. Of note are the strings ‘exp share on’ and ‘exp share off’, so there’s hope. Maybe the option is just hidden stupidly like the sound options are.

E: also ‘Which Pokémon do you want to fuse this Pokémon with?’ Was this a usum thing or is it something new?
E: are you fucking kidding me? There’s a separate set of strings for every single move.
 
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Text dump from the menus. Of note are the strings ‘exp share on’ and ‘exp share off’, so there’s hope. Maybe the option is just hidden stupidly like the sound options are.

E: also ‘Which Pokémon do you want to fuse this Pokémon with?’ Was this usum thing or is it something new?
I wouldn’t get too excited, there is a ton of stuff from as far back as heartgold and soul silver in there. The GB player and exp share equip item are still in for instance. Gamefreak just leaves a bunch of shit from older games in their new games each time.
 

I remember back then when Pokemon Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee was first announced, and many people were trying to deflect any kind of criticism by saying stuff like "Gen 8 its on the way! it will be a Pokemon game for the veteran fans, don't criticize LGPE for being for a different audience!", i think nobody expected gen 8 to be an even bigger shitshow than Let's Go! ever was
 
I remember back then when Pokemon Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee was first announced, and many people were trying to deflect any kind of criticism by saying stuff like "Gen 8 its on the way! it will be a Pokemon game for the veteran fans, don't criticize LGPE for being for a different audience!", i think nobody expected gen 8 to be an even bigger shitshow than Let's Go! ever was

What baffles me more is that somehow LGPE looks better than SwSh. I never thought I would say that, but fuck here we are.
 
I remember back then when Pokemon Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee was first announced, and many people were trying to deflect any kind of criticism by saying stuff like "Gen 8 its on the way! it will be a Pokemon game for the veteran fans, don't criticize LGPE for being for a different audience!", i think nobody expected gen 8 to be an even bigger shitshow than Let's Go! ever was
I'll fully admit to being one of those people. I didn't buy LG and thought it was stupid with the obvious Kanto/Go player pandering. But it didn't bother me too much as I kept telling myself, "This just means that the main series can go back to its roots and be like the classic days! The LG series can satisfy the ultra casuals while giving us veterans what we've been wanting, it'll be great! Plus LG is buying them extra time so they can make sure gen 8 is in the best quality it can be!"

My poor, poor naive past self. He had no idea what lied ahead...
 
What baffles me more is that somehow LGPE looks better than SwSh. I never thought I would say that, but fuck here we are.

Kinda funny how a "spin-off" like Let's Go! ended up having far fewer issues than the supposed "big love letter to the fans and first main-line entry on a home console" game

I'll fully admit to being one of those people. I didn't buy LG and thought it was stupid with the obvious Kanto/Go player pandering. But it didn't bother me too much as I kept telling myself, "This just means that the main series can go back to its roots and be like the classic days! The LG series can satisfy the ultra casuals while giving us veterans what we've been wanting, it'll be great! Plus LG is buying them extra time so they can make sure gen 8 is in the best quality it can be!"

My poor, poor naive past self. He had no idea what lied ahead...

At least you know better now, never trust a company when they go full damage control
 
I'll fully admit to being one of those people. I didn't buy LG and thought it was stupid with the obvious Kanto/Go player pandering. But it didn't bother me too much as I kept telling myself, "This just means that the main series can go back to its roots and be like the classic days! The LG series can satisfy the ultra casuals while giving us veterans what we've been wanting, it'll be great! Plus LG is buying them extra time so they can make sure gen 8 is in the best quality it can be!"

My poor, poor naive past self. He had no idea what lied ahead...
I was in the same boat. I rationalized LGPE as Game Freak's opportunity to get past some of the growing pains of moving from handheld to console and learn how to make something for the Switch. Yes, yet another bout of Kanto pandering was obnoxious but surely not having to create an entire new region, new characters, new plot, and new Pokemon would free them up to focus on programming and learning the ropes. It was the sacrifice necessary to make Sword and Shield the best they could possibly be. And if it got GO players into the core games, then I'd have more people at work to sperg out with.

I miss having hope like that.
 
Well at least we can agree on the villian team leader ratings

Cyrus> Ghetsis>Guzma>giovanni>maxie=archie>lusamine>lysandre>whatever that tip shit rocket guy from gen 2 is called.

I know I know, I'm going to sound like a contrarian ass, I know. But I don't like rating villains on what they do in the story, rather I rate them as characters and in that regard Cyrus and Lysandre can suck a nut. They're boring ass mother-fuckers in the games they're in and don't have any gravitas at all save for their take over the world plots which, to me at least, provide the worst stories in the franchise.

Giovanni, Maxie, and Archie are about equal levels of stupid but charming. Giovanni's got a bad-ass flare to him even if he's technically a wimp and he carries himself well even nowadays. Maxie and Archie are the opposite of that; they're really stupid but somehow that makes them all the more endearing.

I have exceptionally high regard for Lusamine and Ghetsis. They're fantastic villains and wonderfully fucked-up. I have to put Lusamine lower because USUM botched her entire story-arc, but she was hardcore uncomfortable in the original Sun and Moon, and I give Game Freak mad props for going with that. Ghetsis, however, is such a fucking twistedly manic villain that I can't even believe he's in the Pokemon franchise at all. He has Final Fantasy levels of mania and wrath and you don't just get told that throughout Gen 5, you see it on multiple occasions. That encounter in N's castle in OG Black and White is so cringe in all the right ways. I can just picture him twisting and contorting as he uncomfortably tries to keep the facade of his plans from falling apart right in front of you, almost like he's arguing with himself.

Guzma, however, is on another level entirely. He's Giovanni perfected; Not some overlord trying to bring ruin with super-powered animals nor is he some deluded virtuoso hiding an obvious ulterior motive. Guzma is a thug with tons of merit as a trainer who commands the respect of his peers and even someone like Lusamine through sheer grit alone. He's a brute who actually feels like he can throw his weight around and even though he never has grandiose plans that can tell a story he feels like a genuine bad guy that would exist in a world like Pokemon. That he's also ridiculously charming and funny is a major plus.

And I don't think it needs to be said that fuck whoever the villains of Gen 2 were, for how worthless they are.
 
So, the game loves to force local wireless on (That Y button in the corner for a lot of screenshots? That's that.) Turns out if you have the console in airplane mode and dock it with a wired internet USB, the game freaks out and stutters every 6 seconds until you disable airplane mode.

Then it forces itself into local, and disables that USB adapter of yours.

Welp, someone posted this on Discord.
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I remember back then when Pokemon Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee was first announced, and many people were trying to deflect any kind of criticism by saying stuff like "Gen 8 its on the way! it will be a Pokemon game for the veteran fans, don't criticize LGPE for being for a different audience!", i think nobody expected gen 8 to be an even bigger shitshow than Let's Go! ever was
I remember arguing (tooth and nail) with those kind of people talking about how I didn't want Pokemon to start going the way CoD did, slow slope into mediocrity, and now we're here. I guess the fanbase will have to learn a harsh lesson from this in the future. (They won't but I can dream.)
 
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