Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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$45 said:
I missed the days when people just had fun and accept flaws and imperfections in a game.

Now it just leaks, outrage, and 'muh graphics'.
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I would add that I miss the days when companies shipped completed games that had been through quality control.
 
Love_Machine011 said:
Pseudo Legendary is a term for pokemon for a bst of 60, thats a club of Dragonite, Tyranitar, Metagross, Salamence, Garchomp, Hydreigon, Goodra, kommo-o and now with the 8th gen, Dragopult. Starters never get anywhere near that.
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So you are saying Charizard isnt worthy? How dare you insult the Almighty Zard.
 
Game freak doesn't really have that benefit of that anymore. Pokemon became this massive worldwide phenomenon, so much they are expected to make a mainline game regularly with a deadline. My main gripe is the game going to be fun and the bugs/glitches make it unplayable .

The way I see it, them are going stick with the sun/moon engine and make improvements and additions as time goes on. The same way fromsoft does with the souls games.
 
Love_Machine011 said:
he shares the spot with meganium as the absolute shittiest starter without using a gimmick form.
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Woah, now that's a stretch if I've ever seen one. Yes, Meganium doesn't have a good learnset, but that's the oppisite case for charizard. For all the gen 1 starter pokemon as of recent years.

For reference, Here's the moves charizard can learn by leveling up.

And here's Meganium's.

Charizard's mega form and Gigantomax form only make him stronger if you ask me.
 
Tour of Italy said:
One thing maybe worth considering is claws and digits? I notice our sheep friend’s feet terminate with Gumby blobs instead of useable extremities. So do Lapras’ fins, but that’s not out of place for an aquatic creature.
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What exactly do you mean by useable extremities? Sheep normally have hooves, which, while more pointed usually than rounded than Wooloo's, are not exactly useful for anything other than walking.
 
iRON-mAn said:
What exactly do you mean by useable extremities? Sheep normally have hooves, which, while more pointed usually than rounded than Wooloo's, are not exactly useful for anything other than walking.
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Maybe “useable” isn’t the exact term I meant.

“Distinct” or “Articulated”; something other than a rounded geometric shape.
 
$45 said:
I missed the days when people just had fun and accept flaws and imperfections in a game.

Now it just leaks, outrage, and 'muh graphics'.
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This basically.

GF has definitely fucked up a ton, but I think some people are going too far with the outrage. There's actually some really cool stuff here, and people just seem to be overlooking it.
 
Bunny Tracks said:
This basically.

GF has definitely fucked up a ton, but I think some people are going too far with the outrage. There's actually some really cool stuff here, and people just seem to be overlooking it.
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Yeah, game freak definitely did some missteps and could've handled things better. But goddamn, the fucking fans blown things way out of proportion. Fucking fandoms man..
 
I've already said this before, but aside from the increase in furbaiting my main issue is the repeated usage of concepts and design origins when there's still so much of both the animal kingdom and of myths/legends that aren't even touched yet. It's fine when it's similar creatures but distinctly different species and designs. Ariados and Galvantula are both spiders, but have different secondary typings and they are clearly based on different species of spiders. Stuff like that is perfectly okay.

But then you get into things like Whimsicott and Eldegoss. Two supportive Grass types (the former gained Fairy later) based on cotton. Slurpuff and Alcremie. Two pure Fairy types based on cream-related dessert. That's where it gets rather repetitive.
 
OddEyes said:
Not to start shit here either, but I think it has something more to do with the fact that the art style is becoming more round.

Like, let me give an example:

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I think Nidoking is a great example for this - To the left you've got Gen 1's official art and current artwork for the poison rabbit (and yeah, he's a rabbit, that's what the asethetic was for the Nido lines) If you look at the horns and claws, you can see that the older version has more jagged and rough edges to it, meanwhile the right version has a more rounder shape.

The right has a much cleaner look, and the rounder shape is actually playing off of a psychological aspect of rounder shapes, it gives off a much more friendly and approachable design. It's part of the reason why people take to Wooloo actually, despite it's extremely simple design:

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Here's the thing that we need to consider, and that's how pokemon's demographic slowly shifted from pre-teens to kids, and let's face it, that is a different kind of demographic, as well as it being a much more broad.
Again, designs have changed to be a lot more 'softer':

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Stuff like fangs and claws have dulled a little bit. Fur has become a lot smoother.

That isn't to say that those elements aren't there, but they're a lot less prominent.

And there's nothing wrong with rounder designs either, just pointing out a possibility as to why you're feeling this way.
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Despite the art shift Lapras and Nidoking still have their beastly designs. I feel the shift is due more to what art style is popular at the time. 90’s anime had more sharp edges and current anime goes for a more softer look. They can’t keep that dated style forever without it becoming stagnant and forever stuck in the 90’s. Hell Clefairy was originally going to be the mascot before Pikachu became popular and that was one of the cutest designs of the Kanto bunch.

I feel like people forgot the 90’s Pokemon craze that swept the world. Kids did not care whether or not the old school Pokemon look more natural. They just loved the designs because they were cool and toys flew off the shelves. By Gen 3 all those kids grew older and became teenagers. I think that is what some of the resentment towards that gen and beyond is coming from. I don’t know about other parts of the world but the Pokemon fad actually died long before GSC came out in the US where I lived. Even the GSC designs got a ton of flak when they were new. I remember someone online complaining a very long time ago that they looked too kiddy and I have seen a small handful of people claim that the region was just a dumping ground for rejected Kanto designs.

Also can the Gen 1 and two fanboys make up their minds on whether the new Pokemon are simple shapes or overly complicated Digimon looking monsters with unnecessary doodads sticking out of them?
 
UntimelyDhelmise said:
In an ironic retrospective sense, there's technically some truth to that. Several Johto mons were meant to be in the first gen but were left out due to constraints and then later put in G/S.
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There's also the conspiracy theory that Munna was supposed to be in Gen one because of an NPC in the game describing it in dialogue
 
So based on recent leaks, the GTS has been removed. You’ll likely have to pay for it in home.
 
OddEyes said:
There's also the conspiracy theory that Munna was supposed to be in Gen one because of an NPC in the game describing it in dialogue
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As we know from the Gold and Silver demo many designs were trashed for Johto and then reused years later like Leafeon and Tangrowth so this wouldn't be surprising. It's a shame because some of the designs they trashed for Gold and Silver looked really good.

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Buttigieg2020 said:
So based on recent leaks, the GTS has been removed. You’ll likely have to pay for it in home.
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If GTS is removed this game will crash and burn.
 
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Perspicacity said:
As we know from the Gold and Silver demo many designs were trashed for Johto and then reused years later like Leafeon and Tangrowth so this wouldn't be surprising. It's a shame because some of the designs they trashed for Gold and Silver looked really good.
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Hell yeah man, I think a Kyonshi pokemon would kick all kinds of ass. Seriously, chinese hopping vampire panda bear - That just screams awesome.

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Actually that's a good question, considering the hype for all the beta pokemon, it raises the question why GF didn't try to make those an actual thing in games? Heck, I'm willing to bet if they did put those pokemon into SwSh, people wouldn't be complaining as much about designs.

Questionable Ceviche said:
Are you fucking kidding? The GTS was an amazing feature, and friend codes eat ass. Wonder Trade was great. I'm going to be really disappointing if that's actually cut. :heart-empty:
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Well, it probably won't be cut... You'll just have to pay for the BS nintendo stuff for the switch.
 
OddEyes said:
Hell yeah man, I think a Kyonshi pokemon would kick all kinds of ass. Seriously, chinese hopping vampire panda bear - That just screams awesome.

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Actually that's a good question, considering the hype for all the beta pokemon, it raises the question why GF didn't try to make those an actual thing in games? Heck, I'm willing to bet if they did put those pokemon into SwSh, people wouldn't be complaining as much about designs.



Well, it probably won't be cut... You'll just have to pay for the BS nintendo stuff for the switch.
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Forcing people to exchange friend codes before trading removes the random, spontaneous nature of the GTS. Anyone could trade with anyone, and that's what made it function as a global trading system. You could throw up a reasonable-ish trade and have it snapped up in a few minutes by a rando. I filled out almost all of my living dex that way. Friend codes are clunky at best and a barrier to entry at worst. There's no point of a "friend" list if everyone goes to Reddit or Discord to exchange codes with strangers.
 
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