Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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Leaf Wage Slave Jr said:
I say this with as little irony as possible - the Colosseum and XD models might look better than the modern models.
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They do, remember that model fidelity for 3DS isn't that good and the ones on the Switch are mostly just upscaled versions of that. Plus, they have much better animations which give them their own personality and soul, even if you have a N64 era ugly looking model you can excuse it for how active it looks on the battlefield.
Also, I am seeing that they are actually changing the models now. The whole point of them making XY models much higher quality than the 3DS could handle was due to them wanting to futureproof them and use them for years to come. I guess not anymore. This company cannot do anything right.
 
Fox Girl Enjoyer said:
I just want to say, if you are going to do America again, why would you do West Coast over the South Eastern USA? Florida has far more potential for Pokemon than California does. Not to mention Appalachia and Louisiana. If you want to do the Desert thing, just go further west. It also doesn't have the "vertical length" problem. Its a far better region.

Not that the game would be good either way though
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Not like it matters. New York wasn't exactly depicted "accurately" considering we got a desert section with a sandstorm even though there are no deserts in NY and sandstorms don't exist. Meanwhile Long Island was nothing but "Hoenn Part 2: Electric Boogaloo" in B2/W2.

I could see GameFreak fucking up Florida by adding a snow area with ice types even though it's one of the hottest and humid fucking states in the country.
 
Celebrate Nite said:
I could see GameFreak fucking up Florida by adding a snow area with ice types even though it's one of the hottest and humid fucking states in the country.
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Just have an ice cream vendor sell Vanillish on the streets and put the wild encounters with ice types in an IKEA next to the fridgerators. Maybe a rare Lapras encounter in the Tampa Bay route equivalent location. Putting ice types in Florida doesn't have to be all that complicated.
 
Strangolapreti said:
it looks like a gamecube model.
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Other people have pointed this out, but that's an insult to GameCube and you know it:
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I'd say it looks like an N64 model but even Pokémon Stadium 2 gave him claws:
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Strangolapreti said:
They should go back using single regions for making games, instead of whole country.
Let's say game freak actually has a moment of sharpness and picks Italy; instead of going for the entire country, they could pick up just the Veneto region, as in itself its kind of a microcosm of what the country itself can offer: beautiful beaches, historical landmarks, what people often refers to as world's prettiest mountains, cuisine, traditions and so on so forth, instead of cramming a load of bullshit into a map too small for its own sake.
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There's a lot of countries that have plenty of regional difference, sometimes completely distant from one another. For example, irl Spain has regional dialects or even full on different languages depending on the province. I mean a traditionally homogeneous country like japan still has plenty of regional differences, enough to get 4 regions (and kitakami in SV) made of it.
30+GameOvers said:
There are people in this thread who will defend this
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Biggest entertainment media franchise on the planet btw
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I am actually predicting ZA to be worse than SV and maybe even SwSh. At least I doubt it will be worse than the non-platinum sinnoh games....right?
Hiphopopotamus said:
Billion dollar franchise with the nice crunchy shadows.
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ZA's Pokemon models are a DOWNGRADE from fucking SCARLET AND VIOLET (which actually had pretty good pokemon models.)
Leaf Wage Slave Jr said:
I say this with as little irony as possible - the Colosseum and XD models might look better than the modern models.
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The gamecube games is what mainline 3D pokemon games should've look and handled like.
 
Celebrate Nite said:
Not like it matters. New York wasn't exactly depicted "accurately" considering we got a desert section with a sandstorm even though there are no deserts in NY and sandstorms don't exist. Meanwhile Long Island was nothing but "Hoenn Part 2: Electric Boogaloo" in B2/W2.

I could see GameFreak fucking up Florida by adding a snow area with ice types even though it's one of the hottest and humid fucking states in the country.
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>he’s never been to the New York City desert or the tropics of Jersey
 
Fox Girl Enjoyer said:
I just want to say, if you are going to do America again, why would you do West Coast over the South Eastern USA? Florida has far more potential for Pokemon than California does. Not to mention Appalachia and Louisiana. If you want to do the Desert thing, just go further west. It also doesn't have the "vertical length" problem. Its a far better region.

Not that the game would be good either way though
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Gamefreak picked their initial non-Japanese regions based on the most popular tourist destinations. New York City, Hawaii, Paris - those were the areas I heard most often being talked about when I was in Japan when talking about vacation destinations. If they pick Florida, the central city (maybe only at this point) will be Orlando with a Disneyland knockoff in the center.

There are plenty of really cool places in the South you could base a Pokemon region off of, and plenty of cities that are also really cool to visit that could serve as inspiration. You wouldn't even need to do specific states - geographical features would work too. You could have one running from not-Charleston in the North to not-St. Augustine in the South for the low country, or a region bisected by the Mississippi stretching from Nawlins to Memphis, and obviously Appalachia offers a wide range of options. We'll never get any of that because that would require someone in Gamefreak actually interested in traditional American history and geopolitics, and the South is anathema to the positive PR that would be required for that.
 
Computer God Autism said:
Gamefreak picked their initial non-Japanese regions based on the most popular tourist destinations. New York City, Hawaii, Paris - those were the areas I heard most often being talked about when I was in Japan when talking about vacation destinations. If they pick Florida, the central city (maybe only at this point) will be Orlando with a Disneyland knockoff in the center.

There are plenty of really cool places in the South you could base a Pokemon region off of, and plenty of cities that are also really cool to visit that could serve as inspiration. You wouldn't even need to do specific states - geographical features would work too. You could have one running from not-Charleston in the North to not-St. Augustine in the South for the low country, or a region bisected by the Mississippi stretching from Nawlins to Memphis, and obviously Appalachia offers a wide range of options. We'll never get any of that because that would require someone in Gamefreak actually interested in traditional American history and geopolitics, and the South is anathema to the positive PR that would be required for that.
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The Rockies and Yellowstone would make a kickass cowboy region with a lot of varied biology and climates
 
Morrowind: GOTY Edition said:
Budgets leaked: Pokémon Legends Z-A: 2 billion yen (approx. $13 million), Pokemon Gen 10: 3 billion yen (approx. $20 million)

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No wonder the games suck when they don't even have the budget (in American dollars) to make anything half decent. If anything (and if it's an indication of Nintendo's other IPs under thier actually competent dev teams), they have the opposite problem most modern AAA games where instead of every game having budgets reaching the triple digit millions, they're getting borderline anemic budgets to cobble together a worse version of what came before.


Why the fuck do they want to act like they're so frugal when they have so much more money available outside of guaranteeing a low profit ceiling? :stress:
 
Computer Guardian said:
No wonder the games suck when they don't even have the budget (in American dollars) to make anything half decent. If anything (and if it's an indication of Nintendo's other IPs under thier actually competent dev teams), they have the opposite problem most modern AAA games where instead of every game having budgets reaching the triple digit millions, they're getting borderline anemic budgets to cobble together a worse version of what came before.
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Maybe they should go the indie ruote and work in gamestudio/rpg maker/unity like deltarune/omori/hollow knight at this point. Holy fuck.
 
Computer Guardian said:
No wonder the games suck when they don't even have the budget (in American dollars) to make anything half decent. If anything (and if it's an indication of Nintendo's other IPs under thier actually competent dev teams), they have the opposite problem most modern AAA games where instead of every game having budgets reaching the triple digit millions, they're getting borderline anemic budgets to cobble together a worse version of what came before.


Why the fuck do they want to act like they're so frugal when they have so much more money available outside of guaranteeing a low profit ceiling? :stress:
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The other franchise that I like (TYPE-MOON), is also small as fuck in terms of person (they don't even have 30 people in), after they releases their hit game FGO, they obviously got a lot of money, they used the money to open another studio do develop other projects and also at the same time worked with ANOTHER studio in a partnership to develop an action game.

This in a matter of 3-6 years. But pokemon isn't a new hit, they've been doing this for decades, to bring in new people, make auxiliary studios, hire more people isn't something that should be daring for them, they should've done this 20 years ago.

In TYPE-MOON's case, no matter how much money they got doesn't mean they can do whatever they want because they are a smaller studio and most of them are on the creative side aspects like designing, illustration, music and so on.

But Pokemon doesn't have this excuse at all. They have the money to outright buy their competition if thet wanted.
 
Registration said:
The other franchise that I like (TYPE-MOON), is also small as fuck in terms of person (they don't even have 30 people in), after they releases their hit game FGO, they obviously got a lot of money, they used the money to open another studio do develop other projects and also at the same time worked with ANOTHER studio in a partnership to develop an action game.

This in a matter of 3-6 years. But pokemon isn't a new hit, they've been doing this for decades, to bring in new people, make auxiliary studios, hire more people isn't something that should be daring for them, they should've done this 20 years ago.

In TYPE-MOON's case, no matter how much money they got doesn't mean they can do whatever they want because they are a smaller studio and most of them are on the creative side aspects like designing, illustration, music and so on.

But Pokemon doesn't have this excuse at all. They have the money to outright buy their competition if thet wanted.
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Merch & spin-offs are the tail that's wagging the dog. It definitely seems like the mainline games are less actual games and more vessels to release new creature designs and let the diehards fend for the game themselves.
 
I wonder if the soulslike they release is gonna be good or shit. In the second case, that's yet another incentive to make pokemon.
 
Hiphopopotamus said:
They also have groups of stores like this
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But each store only has like 4 items, and they aren't always unique to that spot either.
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Weird. That's like something you'd see in an NES game where they hard-coded the shops to only hold a few options because they didn't expect to need more, but then wanted a lot of stuff in one spot so they just stick a bunch of shopkeepers right next to each other.
 
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