Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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Ironic how X & Y may have been seen as kinda lame when they came out.
It was kind of a big deal as far as adding new mechanics goes... the obvious one being the Mega Evolutions. The story, Pokedex, and pacing (along with the annoying hand-holding) is what ruined it.

But thanks to the leaks and what we know now regarding how these games were supposed to be bigger than what they were when released, I kinda sorta feel bad for those games. It's obvious some sort of fuckery is going on behind the scenes of the dev team, and I'm 100% positive it's management being retarded as always. And I'm sure they stuck their dicks in Z-A as well. Nobody sane would look at all those drastic yet questionable designs and skeevy-as-fuck DLC practices and go "yea that's perfect!"
 
I do not want Pokémon to be an open-world game with increasingly-unfitting systems thrown in just for the sake of novelty.
I am okay with each new game still feeling exactly like the decades of Pokémon games that came before it. I'm okay with each game basically just being a new episode that is used to explore a new place with a new story, characters, and Pokémon to find, with the biggest changes being graphics upgrades and modernizing existing systems. I don't want those systems to be completely fucking reinvented or thrown out in favor of something worse. Don't try to reinvent the wheel and give me a square wheel in its place.

I want Pokémon games to be the best version of what they are—not a bad imitation of something else.
Pokemon had its niche. It did its thing, not always well, but it did its thing and everyone was fine with that. You bought a pokemon game and you knew what you were gonna get. Now every god damn game has to be the same open world garbage.

Now every game has to be the god damn same. It has to be open world. It has to have a dodge roll. It has have years worth of dlc planned. Fuck man. I just wanna play a regular good pokemon game again.
 
I looked through /vp/ for a bit and this is what I gathered about Gen 10 (Gaia).

The main protagonist is a 13 year old kid from a city in Hoenn who wins a lottery for a free vacation to the game's region, which is a tropical archipelago (might be based off South-East Asia). The owner of the hotel you stay at and his son are major characters somehow. The regional professor is an outdoor survival enthusiast who studies Pokemon's connection to the weather. The evil team are an evil polluting land development company (basically Captain Planet villains). The themes of the game are meant to be nature, survival, environmental issues, and weather.

Pic of the main protag concept. Rotom dex again.
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They want to make the hub of the game be a huge tourist city with the hotel you're staying at as your base and like an MMO lobby where you can see other players. In addition to whatever islands they handcraft, they want to implement a system to make procedurally generated islands to serve as infinite content for players to explore. They also want to implement a partner Pokemon like Koraidon/Miraidon in SV who can infinitely evolve via a kind o procedural generation, with them using screenshots of creatures from Spore as an example of what they want. That's right, you'll be able to make your own cock Pokemon and show it off to other players.
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There's going to be 18 Gym challenges, one for each type, which the player can skip as many as they want getting the Champion, but you have to do all of them to get the true ending. To fit with the theme of environmental sustainability, each Gym will also represent a different piece of globalist propaganda. Pic in Game Freak's files.
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There's going to be 18 Gym challenges, one for each type, which the player can skip as many as they want getting the Champion, but you have to do all of them to get the true ending. To fit with the theme of environmental sustainability, each Gym will also represent a different piece of globalist propaganda. Pic in Game Freak's files.

I want to see how they'll shoehorn an "Eat the Weedles" message.
 
Playing the recreated version of Chaos Black and the map is basically an altered version of Kanto but just by changing the map it already feels way better than romhacks that doesn't change anything.

Mechanically, it is basically gen 3, so you have the HMs, no infinite TMs so making a good moveset is quite risky so far.

There was a time when I traveled back in time and it was all gen 2 sprites that was quite curious to see in the game.

There I fought the enemy.
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What bothers me the most is that I have no clue about what is from the original game and what is fixed by the new guy since I never played chaos black before.

This is my current team, Skelegon is quite cool.
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It was kind of a big deal as far as adding new mechanics goes... the obvious one being the Mega Evolutions.
Also the Fairy type.

But thanks to the leaks and what we know now regarding how these games were supposed to be bigger than what they were when released, I kinda sorta feel bad for those games.
X&Y were gonna be bigger?
 
There's going to be 18 Gym challenges, one for each type, which the player can skip as many as they want getting the Champion, but you have to do all of them to get the true ending. To fit with the theme of environmental sustainability, each Gym will also represent a different piece of globalist propaganda. Pic in Game Freak's files.
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This has me instantly skeptical, if only because it sounds like a parody.
 
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They're trying to push that WEF stuff on kids through pocketmons?? I miss when the franchise was mainly Japanese.

Japan's previous prime minister (Shigeru Ishiba) was a WEF plant, and one of the potential people to take his place after Ishiba resigned (but I think he didn't take over) was another WEF plant.
 
Here's some machine-translated text about other countries they considered making the basis for Gen 10 before deciding on Southeast Asia. The funniest part is they rejected Canada because they were worried Canucks would whine at them about doing anything with Native American stuff being problematic.

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Here's some machine-translated text about other countries they considered making the basis for Gen 10 before deciding on Southeast Asia. The funniest part is they rejected Canada because they were worried Canucks would whine at them about doing anything with Native American stuff being problematic.

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I just want to say, if you are going to do America again, why would you do West Coast over the South Eastern USA? Florida has far more potential for Pokemon than California does. Not to mention Appalachia and Louisiana. If you want to do the Desert thing, just go further west. It also doesn't have the "vertical length" problem. Its a far better region.

Not that the game would be good either way though
 
People where definitely more forgiving of XY's flaws at the time, as it was the first 3D mainline game (I personally consider colosseum and XD mainline but I know most people don't have this view) and at bare minimum, XY wasn't as bad of a transition game as DP were. Plus people thought there was going to be a pokemon Z to fix XY like platinum did with DP.

And imo a lot of criticism towards XY were retrospective, from my experience anyways. I straight up heard people who thought gen 6 is/or are going to be better than gen 5. This was a INCREDIBLY vocal minority (to put it very lightly) but it shows that people did like gen 6 when it came out.
It was the opposite for me.

I hated XY when they came out, and Gen 6 as a whole - mainline, side games, anime, etc. - was a low point for me only barely salvaged by ORAS and my Hoenn nostalgia. But as Gen 7 came around and it became clear that Gen 6 was not a fluke, I wound up getting more nostalgic for it as the years and Gens went on. Yeah, it was still bad but I can at least see the wasted potential and that they tried, which is more than I can say for anything that came after.

Despite the praise Gen 6 got initially - which definitely outweighed criticism of it in my experience - I think a lot of people did end up checking out of Pokemon as Gen 6 transitioned into 7 when it became apparent there'd be no Pokemon Z, the Anime flubbed Ash's latest league arc and Serena as hard as possible, and none of the sidegames that were left in the dust by Gen 5 (or Conquest) were getting revived, except for a mechanically gutted PMD. Slow roll disappointment instead of the immediate lashback Gen 5 got.
 
I hated XY when they came out, and Gen 6 as a whole - mainline, side games, anime, etc. - was a low point for me only barely salvaged by ORAS and my Hoenn nostalgia. But as Gen 7 came around and it became clear that Gen 6 was not a fluke, I wound up getting more nostalgic for it as the years and Gens went on. Yeah, it was still bad but I can at least see the wasted potential and that they tried, which is more than I can say for anything that came after.
It's actually the same for me. I also didn't like xy that much when it first came out, I liked ORAS but wasn't that big of a fan of it either until relatively recently. But now I can at least see what XY as well as what ORAS and base Sun and Moon where trying to accomplish. I actually think, despite its flaws, gen 6 is actually the best 3D generation (mainly because of ORAS tho, but XY was okay at least, which is better than what I thought back in 2013). The bar is almost non-existent though.
 
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