Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[ToroidalBoat]

XY

If it weren't for ORAS, Gen 6 would be sorta sucky. I think there were signs of later decline towards the 'mon vidya of Current Year.

But yeah, I think there's 180ish, in total.

that is a lot of touhous

And Crystal! Adding in those little animations, and a reason to hunt the breasts was fun.

 

[Grayback]

Diamond and Pearl are way worse than most people remember

Diamond and Pearl sucked

Oh yeah?
Well, I disagree.

And I'm certain that it has nothing to do with having been born in the mid '90s and simply being the right age to have enjoyed them so that now my brain is wired to remember them fondly literally forever.

 

[Anonitolia]

can't read about Kalos without getting sad anymore

it's not even funny how good the beta shit looked. Like an actual proper return to form even in the base games, with a lot of thought and effort put into depicting France in a really careful and interesting manner. even had some really cool designs that just got scrapped, probably because they didn't have the time to implement them. No fucking way a near-complete cherry-petal flamingo design was just left out to dry because they didn't like it, they almost certainly had that shit planned for the warmer south and then had to cut it due to time restraints.

The leaks from last October have left me despondent for an alternate timeline where gen 5 lasted as long as it was meant to and gen 6 was fully realized. Like actually properly despondent whenever I play through the Kalos games lol. I'm only saying this now because I started up another Y playthrough because of Z-A, and I'm falling off of it hard because I just keep thinking about the teraleak shit.

Sorry for the vaguely related doompost, I've always loved Kalos as a region, as a concept, and found the games to be true disappointments in almost every sense. If they'd been given the 5+ years in the oven that were originally intended, I'm sure they could've been incredible swan songs for Masuda and, maybe, even the 3DS as a whole. As it stands now, they're painfully unfinished games with a lot of hidden entertainment merit that needs to be actively forced out of them. And yet, despite being arguably just as unfinished as newer disasters like Sword and Shield or Scarlet and Violet, it is infinitely better than them in almost every respect. Despite their horrible current state, they still have several stunning locales (Laverre, Anistar, Lumiose, Shalour, Route 6(?) right before Cyllage city, Geosenge), brought loads of new stuff to the series (extensive character customization, full 3D, super training and Amie, Wonder Trading and the fucking PSS god I miss it so much), and have aged far more gracefully than anything that came after them.

I wonder if someday someone will be autistic and brave enough to try and realize all that stuff for themselves. I feel like, with enough time, someone would be passionate and resourceful enough to put together all the leaked content about gens 5 and 6 and craft what could have been into what now is. I'm sure I would have tried to do something like that if all this leaked stuff had come out when I was a lot younger and a lot more optimistic about both the franchise itself and my ability to program eg: not yet enlightened to my complete inability lol. Maybe someone with more brains and less pessimism has similar ideas and is out there somewhere, dunno. Would be neat lol.

Oh well, I guess I'll only find out if and when that autist decides to come out of hiding and present such a project to the world. I hope that happens within my lifetime.

 

[anliteralidiot]

Autocorrect is

Autocorrect is my own personal troll.

Oh yeah?
Well, I disagree.
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And I'm certain that it has nothing to do with having been born in the mid '90s and simply being the right age to have enjoyed them so that now my brain is wired to remember them fondly literally forever.

I'm also mid 90s, but I just find them too slow, and having one HM per gym is insane.
HGSS, on the other hand, were really fun, and I love them. HGSS are perfect remakes.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

HGSS are perfect remakes.

I like ORAS best as remakes, but ORAS doesn't have Battle Frontier.

But at least ORAS are "self contained": no trading needed to enjoy.

Well, I disagree.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=x_Ns56zg1d0Colress - "However... I disagree!"

 

[Metallic Blood]

B2W2 was where things went to shit with the revamped Pokedex adding previous gen pokemon. But on the flip side, we got things like PokeStar Studio,Pokemon Dream Radar, and even a hard mode (even though the unlock for it is stupid). With the key system you could also unlock memories of what happened during the events of BW, which was a nice touch that connected the two games together.

I know you didn't mean it, but I'm gonna call you a dirty mongrel for forgetting to mention the 2nd best postgame content that has graced upon us: The Pokemon World Tournament. (1st place being Gen 2's "2 entire regions lol").

It makes me sad that they won't bring such a feature back because it would be too much work according to their standards. Battle Factories/Tower/Mansions are fun, but none of them can get the same level of hype as fighting a previous gym leader/champion using a competitive team and having their battle theme remix playing in the background.

 

[30+GameOvers]

Paragraphs of text defending shitty DLC

Learn to read before you make a fool of yourself

Making another profile on your switch doesn't solve the content drought issue. If we didn't have Platinum, I would just have a dozen Diamond and Pearl saves.

Third versions are a net benefit compared to "DLC". SwSh is still unplayable today even with shitty DLC, Platinum is one of the best entries for the franchise and you couldn't say the same about Diamond/Pearl.
I'm starting to remember why Sword/Shield apologists were bullied to death on /vp/ back in the day, to the point where one of the biggest Gen 8 defenders(Yawnfag) turned out to be a baiting troll.

Gen 5 had many version differences, not just Pokemon but entire places, songs, and a bunch of tiny details most people wouldn't notice, and even then it wasn't enough. N does the exact same things in Black and in White, yet in one game he gains the favor of the god of ideals and in the other he gains the favor of the god of truth. Well, which one is it? It ends up making Black feel like the canon game as N is clearly an idealist. The versions should have more story differences than just swapping some names and characters, it'd be a legitimate reason to buy the other version.

Gen 5 did it right by actually giving us a sequel, something that hasn't been done since GSC and HGSS. BW2 are a textbook example of how a game should look if you're going to make me pay twice for what is essentially the same thing again. That said, if we're not doing sequels(which Gamefreak is strangely allergic to), third versions are still much better way of handling a new release than DLC format. Version differences between the two initial releases don't matter, I will likely buy both simply so that I can have two games to trade between each other(also so that one of these is a fresh save I can use for Nuzlocke or what have you).

Seriously, I almost stopped playing Pokemon all-together because Diamond and Pearl sucked. I've never played Platinum.

Pretty much everything about DP has been fixed in Platinum. I would highly recommend it.
Speaking of which, funny how there was no "Platinum DLC" to fix BDSP remakes. History doesn't repeat, but it sure does rhyme, except now we've given up 3rd versions because "DLC is good". Except when the game bombs, then there is no DLC, and therefore, no fixes. XY, anyone?

can't read about Kalos without getting sad anymore

Gen 6 will forever be ruined by Gamefreak's burnout. Never forget the real reason why we never got Z was because Gamefreak was too busy making other, non-Pokemon games that you've never heard of. What resources they had for Pokemon they pretty much dedicated all of them towards ORAS and the upcoming Sun/Moon games.
I still personally like to think the "Fairies are aliens" theory is true, even tho there isn't anything in the leaks to back that up.

 

[NerdShamer]

SwSh is still unplayable today even with shitty DLC

Did any of the patches actually fixed the graphics or that rumor where the game crashes if you've left it running for a few hours?

 

[30+GameOvers]

Did any of the patches actually fixed the graphics or that rumor where the game crashes if you've left it running for a few hours?

Both the Switch games have massive optimization problems and Gen 9 has confirmed memory leaks. I've also read that both have save issues that could potentially brick your Switch and there is no fixing that, it's a hardware issue that Gamefreak was too incompetent to get around(every other studio has, funnily enough). I'm sure fanboys have their copes about all these points, just like there is massive amount of cope over the DLC format being "not as bad as it looks"(that conversation took me back straight to 201.
I'm pretty sure graphics are largely untouched by patches. I say "largely" because allegedly Gamefreak did fix up THAT tree, you know, the one taken straight from Ocarina of Time

Graphics aren't even the real issue, bigger deal breaker for me is the pathetic draw distance that is either the same or even worse than in the 3DS games, and the pathetically small Pokemon compared to their real sizes(Onix/Steelix and Wailord are top suspects).

 

[NerdShamer]

bigger deal breaker for me is the pathetic draw distance

That's hardly anything new with some of the fancier switch games.

But fortunately, I've been kind of lucky with my copy of Sword. Although graphically speaking, it just felt largely static and the draw distance is "cleverly" hidden by the camera angles when it's noticeable within your starting village.

 

[30+GameOvers]

That's hardly anything new with some of the fancier switch games.

But fortunately, I've been kind of lucky with my copy of Sword. Although graphically speaking, it just felt largely static and the draw distance is "cleverly" hidden by the camera angles when it's noticeable within your starting village.

Draw distance is a deal breaker for me. I could tolerate it in the portable games, but on a proper console? Please.
This is why I wouldn't play this game even if dexit didn't happen, it's a disgrace. The only reason I will ever play Sword or Shield is if there is a mod on an emulator where I can properly see everything load in, like in any game with functioning LOD. Not like I am missing out on anything here if a mod like that doesn't exist.
Edit: I was right, Jirachi is placed in place of Celebii despite the game informing you otherwise

Here is Cape Brink, which also has a Jirachi. This error makes Celebi technically unobtainable without editing the table directly.

Fat-fingered mistake probably, note that there is no unique Pokemon from other regions in the table here, like in the rest of the romhack so far.
As you can see, I already edited the romhack to include Celebii in the Berry Forest, altho I cannot add an encounter, sadly. I wanted to include a few more exotic Pokemon like Seedots for wasting my time, but apparently you can only edit existing ones, not add new encounters. Likely a memory related issue. Using the same program I can confirm that Mew is on Treasure Beach(for some reason) and Moltres/Entei are in Mt. Ember.

Sad that I have to delve into the code and manually fix this myself, but at least this wasn't a big error.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

It made sense in 1998 to do version exclusives because one of the main features of the games is trading with other people (or just interacting with other people in general), and due to limited hardware, you really couldn't do that other than IRL face to face with a link cable.

To this day I may still associate Red Version with no Sandshrew, and Blue Version with yes Sandshrew.

 

[Computer God Autism]

Oh yeah?
Well, I disagree.
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And I'm certain that it has nothing to do with having been born in the mid '90s and simply being the right age to have enjoyed them so that now my brain is wired to remember them fondly literally forever.

Late 90s, but I still remember how excited everyone was for Diamond and Pearl. Hoenn was Pokemon's nadir culturally; most of the original Gen I/II fans moved on to something else and the Advanced (and Gamecube) were the losers of their console gen, so if you got in on Gen 3 like me you were the odd one out. But when the DSLite rolled around and D/P were announced everyone was suddenly interested in Pokemon again; I still remember having to stand in line just to play the demo on those demo DSs at a Best Buy.

I remember even as a kid thinking they weren't better than Emerald and after getting Platinum thinking that I couldn't really go back to D/P, but that didn't really matter to me; I still liked them because Gen 4 was greater than the sum of its parts.

 

[Executive Petrel]

Late 90s, but I still remember how excited everyone was for Diamond and Pearl. Hoenn was Pokemon's nadir culturally; most of the original Gen I/II fans moved on to something else and the Advanced (and Gamecube) were the losers of their console gen, so if you got in on Gen 3 like me you were the odd one out. But when the DSLite rolled around and D/P were announced everyone was suddenly interested in Pokemon again; I still remember having to stand in line just to play the demo on those demo DSs at a Best Buy.

I remember even as a kid thinking they weren't better than Emerald and after getting Platinum thinking that I couldn't really go back to D/P, but that didn't really matter to me; I still liked them because Gen 4 was greater than the sum of its parts.

DP has Glameow and Misdreavus or Murkrow and Stunky in the vanilla game. Having Honchkrow on the team is a reason to pick diamond.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

I still remember having to stand in line just to play the demo on those demo DSs at a Best Buy.

I just recalled the memory of playing a DP demo at a vidya store. DS was still new.

 

[Anonitolia]

What's the verdict on the Rijon series of hacks? I know of the DMCA, I've heard boundless praise for Prism specifically... but it's all from the Redditor types that gush over dogshit like Radical Red or whatever Kaizo shat out that month. I don't trust them to be good arbiters of quality.

The hacks do look interesting, but I'm very concerned about the devs. Not because of their name, but because of shit like this:


(this "style" screenshot is from a remake, by the way, of Pokémon Brown: the first game in the series that had nothing to do with these devs. It was entirely Koolboy's work, but the Prism team "revamped" it with new trainers and locations and graphics and such. It does look like a genuine improvement, but...)

I'm concerned about the level of pozz if they're renaming moves for "sensitivity reasons". I'm not too down on that change specifically: admittedly, I'm actually in favor of the new names for thematic reasons (it'd be like saying "Pikachu used Napalm" instead of something less direct, which I think clashes with the tone of the series), but it's a mark against the devs' spines that's making me wary.

Additionally, I'm pretty all-or-nothing in regards to new typings. Adding new types to the existing chart never sat right with me: either you leave it alone or start from scratch, otherwise it's going to clash hard, and adding something as nebulous as "gas" (a category I can only think of maybe five or six Pokémon for) just sounds really stupid.

Despite all this, I have to say that the hacks do look pretty intriguing. The interconnected plot is a big bonus, but the new features also look quite nice: Prism's sheer amount of landmass is appealing, as is being able to take control of your party, and I remember enjoying the hour or so of Prism I played years and years ago. Brown is just interesting for being an actual Red hack. That's such a rare thing even nowadays that I'm surprised it existed way back when it was first released.

Has anyone got more extensive experience with them? I'm really curious to hear any thoughts on Rijon Adventures and Brown especially. Try to keep spoilers to a minimum, if possible, since I'm still seriously considering playing through these hacks mostly blind.

 

[30+GameOvers]

(this "style" screenshot is from a remake, by the way, of Pokémon Brown: the first game in the series that had nothing to do with these devs. It was entirely Koolboy's work, but the Prism team "revamped" it with new trainers and locations and graphics and such. It does look like a genuine improvement, but...)

This AB gender shit for a Gameboy title is cursed as hell.
Also, leave Pokemon Brown alone. FFS nothing is sacred anymore.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

AB gender shit

That BS really needs to stop. Why is "are you a boy or girl" so "problematic"?

I miss when the 'mon vidya asked "Are you a boy? Or are you a girl?" back then.

 

[30+GameOvers]

That BS really needs to stop. Why is "are you a boy or girl" so "problematic"?

It isn't, but this is the same fanbase that will spend 70$ on 4-5 hours worth of DLC and defend it. There is no bottom to this barrel, I was right when I said that Pokemon is full of the most delusional retards this industry has ever seen.

 

[Computer God Autism]

It isn't, but this is the same fanbase that will spend 70$ on 4-5 hours worth of DLC and defend it. There is no bottom to this barrel, I was right when I said that Pokemon is full of the most delusional retards this industry has ever seen.

It's also had, if not still has, one of the single largest fanbases on the planet so that's not really saying much.