Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[I_Lurk_Here]

That reminded me. I hate how when you search for any romhack online, the top links are always pre-patched third party sites.

 

[Gravityqueen4life]

Awesome, now all the horrible bullshit past the eighth gym is never getting fixed. Thanks, troon.

I don't have any actual ill will towards the dev as a person, I'm just really salty about that difficulty spike. I loved the 2.0 overhaul but the fact that the AI almost felt like it was outright cheating past the sixth or seventh gym, with how ridiculously competent their teams were, made the entire game completely unfun to play as you kept getting fucked over by any luck that wasn't perfect while they steamrolled. You either go against the entire point of "Pokémon as a roguelike" and just build a normal team through metaprogression to win before hoping you get good items in a run, or you PRAY TO GOD that you get an absolutely perfect team on any given run, as well as good items to go along with it, as well as enough healing and money to keep you on the same level as the bosses throughout the entire thing. The fact that you cannot easily heal before 90% of boss fights without paying obscene amounts of money means that even base-game bosses would be hard, so why did this retard think it was a great idea to go full VGC in 2.0?

Rant over. I really hope a better dev does a proper rebalancing of 2.0 to make it more like 1.0 in difficulty. The latter felt like it hit a sweet spot that most ROM Hacks have never achieved, where it's tough enough to be engaging but not so tough that it restricts teambuilding or feels like bullshit, and seeing 2.0 throw that all out was tragic.

Finally! Someone that understand what i have been going through! I decided to give the game one last try. Even with a team of ubbers, Someone will die or have to be sacrificed to advance. The rival battles are the worst since the team he carries can be the very thing that it makes or breaks your run. good luck finding replacements for your team after level 60. catching high level pokemon sucks! On my second elite four battle with only two mons left (Metagross and Enthel).

 

[Anonitolia]

catching high level pokemon sucks!

Oh god, I never even touched on this. How the game just randomly makes catching an actual thing past the fourth or fifth gym, whereas before you can catch a fucking Beldum in a pokeball first try. By the sixth or seventh, good fucking luck catching a Pidove in an Ultra ball. Sigh.

Yeah, it sucks. Again, I really hope that some dedicated autist goes and fixes 2.0's difficulty so that, at the VERY least, Normal mode is more akin to 1.0 or the base games. @Danann made a good point about such autists often ruining the game, but maybe Emerald Rogue will get lucky...?

...I don't know man, if a troon can make a genuinely good romhack without fellating the shit out of his fetish then some similarly-dedicated autist can probably rebalance it to be more enjoyable without ruining the whole thing.

 

[Punished Magician]

By the sixth or seventh, good fucking luck catching a Pidove in an Ultra ball.

You'll be lucky to get a Pidove, and not an Aggron that refuses to go in the ball even when it's down in the red, taking out half of your team (or half of your healing items) as you desperately pray that this time it goes in the ball instead of taking out half your healthbar with its next move. At least when you die to a gym leader it feels like it makes sense, but when merely trying to fill in the gaps in your team with wild Pokémon is what causes you to lose the other half, it just feels like you're fucked no matter what you do.

 

[Registration]

So I attempt to fight the E4 and the league was... Easy, at most I only lost 3 pokemon since most of them used choice stuff and I couldn't kill it in one hit so eventually they died.

Iris was funny since Alder is clearly a superior trainer. I took 3 of her pokémons with the Shiny Masquerain dying because of life orb rather than her moves so I defeat her trading blows.

Alder in blaze black redux was so much harder than her, that whole game was harder tbh.

This was the team after winning.

Then the post game starts, I am ambushed by those three ninjas who wants to fight me and he caught my team riddled with hm pokémon so I ended being able to took out a single one leaving with just a single pokemon alive.

Then I enter the pokémon club and there are the goats, just chilling. They tell me that they knew I became the champion and Unova and they were the champion in hoenn and asks if I want to battle.

I say yes (even with a full team)
I got obliterated so hard by a lvl 92 Metagross by steven that in a dual battle with Wallace and Steven, I only managed to took out Pelipper and Steven's metagross sweeped me hard. It was funny to see the game go from: this isn't very hard to Holy shit. And I caught one of the cloud onis, the sword trio I caught before the league.

 

[starborn427614]

Finally got around to finishing Scarlet the other day. Man, it's a crying shame that the generation is such a technical clusterfuck because otherwise it might have been one of my favourite mainline games. Hopefully their engine isn't held together with string next time, though I'm not holding my breath.

 

[Caesar]

Finally got around to finishing Scarlet the other day. Man, it's a crying shame that the generation is such a technical clusterfuck because otherwise it might have been one of my favourite mainline games. Hopefully their engine isn't held together with string next time, though I'm not holding my breath.

Dlc is alright too although I couldn't get the final one to work

 

[Two Dollars]

So what's the best way to play each generation (or at least the first three)? I know it's a very subjective question, but it feels like a new improvement/enhancement/balance/full-Pokedex/whatever-the-fuck hack is released every week, and I've lost count.

For what it's worth, I prefer hacks that don't alter base stats/moves/type matchups. I'll make an exception if something like that is altered to match a newer game, but that's it.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Dlc is alright too although I couldn't get the final one to work

I just wish the games did not have DLC. It means in a decade you will not be able to get half the game if ypu purchase S/V or Sw/Sh to say nothing of the need to claim a mystery gift to access DLC Part 2 for S/V.

I have come to realise I’d be much happier if they just upped the base price of the game and gave us a version that only needed game updates to access the DLC.

 

[Caesar]

I just wush the games did not have DLC. It means in a decade you will not be able to get half the game if ypu purchase S/V or Sw/Sh to say nothing of the need to claim a mystery gift to access DLC Part 2 for S/V.

I have come to realise I’d be much happier if they just upped the base price of the game and gave us a version that only needed game updates to access the DLC.

Eh, they're $60/70 already, let's not go mental. And that's what piracy is for. I'd rather it all to be base game aswell but if you're emulating or already own SV, I'd say the extra content is worth your time. I would say compared to what some other games put out, the DLC is borderline worth your money too if you buy Nintendo games which never really go on sale.... But in general, yeah, the whole package is probably fairly worth $60.

Its probably the best post game they've ever done though. OK there's no hundreds of hours battle frontier but the story was pretty fun and I did like the blueberry academy biome, although the bits in the school building were my least fave parts of it. It did make me wish some of those Pokemon were available for the main game though. I did quite like my team in the end though.

 

[Registration]

Man, not sure if it is an addition to the game by the hack or the game but being able to fight all gym leaders in a single place with their strongest teams was very cool. All lf tjem are lvl 80-90 but are very well done teams.

I even lost to Marlon and Dryden once each.

As I walked into the new areas, I did encounter some new pokémon like Jirachi, meloetta and the genesect that was in the team plasma ship. There we even fight Collress again with his super team.

I am not sure what else is to do in this game but the PWT seems really fun. I did attempt twice bwoth my trio of Scolipede, Masquerain and Chandelier and it was fun. Dunked hard on the kanto gym leaders

 

[Coldsteel the Hedgehog]

So what's the best way to play each generation (or at least the first three)? I know it's a very subjective question, but it feels like a new improvement/enhancement/balance/full-Pokedex/whatever-the-fuck hack is released every week, and I've lost count.

For what it's worth, I prefer hacks that don't alter base stats/moves/type matchups. I'll make an exception if something like that is altered to match a newer game, but that's it.

Genuinely, I prefer just playing vanilla with some QoL tweaks using the UPR like fixing the level curve in Johto or making trade evolutions optional. Most hacks really change the game more than I'd like if I want to just play through a region, I look at them more like their own fangames. If I had to pick, though, Drayano's hacks are all pretty solid and tend to leave a lot of the important things alone.

 

[negativlad]

So what's the best way to play each generation (or at least the first three)? I know it's a very subjective question, but it feels like a new improvement/enhancement/balance/full-Pokedex/whatever-the-fuck hack is released every week, and I've lost count.

For what it's worth, I prefer hacks that don't alter base stats/moves/type matchups. I'll make an exception if something like that is altered to match a newer game, but that's it.

Here’s your compulsory “Play them vanilla, on original hardware” comment, but IMO:
Gen 1 - Red++
Gen 2 - Polished Crystal if you like it classic, Crystal Clear if youd like to try one that’s feature-rich
Gen 3 - there are approximately 11 billion ways to play, but I like Radical Red. There are far more vanilla ones out there.

 

[Archeops]

Well I managed to set up Pocket on my iPad (all I had to do was make an NZ Apple account and disconnect and use it on my iPad with a VPN). I'll make a list of pros and cons in a bit.

I just wush the games did not have DLC. It means in a decade you will not be able to get half the game if ypu purchase S/V or Sw/Sh to say nothing of the need to claim a mystery gift to access DLC Part 2 for S/V.

I have come to realise I’d be much happier if they just upped the base price of the game and gave us a version that only needed game updates to access the DLC.

Funny you should bring that up, "complete" physical editions of SWSH were released a while back and SV technically have 'em as well so long as you get the most recent versions of said physical copies (older ones only have The Teal Mask on-cart, The Indigo Disk requires a download).

Finally got around to finishing Scarlet the other day. Man, it's a crying shame that the generation is such a technical clusterfuck because otherwise it might have been one of my favourite mainline games. Hopefully their engine isn't held together with string next time, though I'm not holding my breath.

I really hate parroting this statement but GF and TPC should've delayed it by a year and dedicate that time to serious QA work. They wouldn't have fixed some of the issues but I'm pretty sure they could fix a majority of the performance issues in that timeframe.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Funny you should bring that up, "complete" physical editions of SWSH were released a while back and SV technically have 'em as well so long as you get the most recent versions of said physical copies (older ones only have The Teal Mask on-cart, The Indigo Disk requires a download).

It’s all on the Cart technically older versions are just a bigger update.

My gripe is the fact that the base versions will become completely dead in a decade.

I really wish they would indicate on the boxes the newer version that include everything. As it is now you kind of just have to buy and hope you get lucky.

I really hate parroting this statement but GF and TPC should've delayed it by a year and dedicate that time to serious QA work. They wouldn't have fixed some of the issues but I'm pretty sure they could fix a majority of the performance issues in that timeframe.

As shown by the updates that happened to SV that did indeed fix most of those issues they absolutely could have itoned everything out if given some more time.

The issue I think they’d have still is core design. The world of Paldeia and how it plays is just a massive misstep.

I like the plot and I like the idea of the setting but everything surronding it and how it is presented.

People give the ‘faithful’ DP remaxes a lot of shit but those certainly look more like Pokemon. Even the Lets Go games do SV really doesn’t look or feel like one. Because your character model does not feel like they are designed to fit in the world. Has been an issue since SWSH.

 

[Two Dollars]

Genuinely, I prefer just playing vanilla with some QoL tweaks using the UPR like fixing the level curve in Johto or making trade evolutions optional. Most hacks really change the game more than I'd like if I want to just play through a region, I look at them more like their own fangames. If I had to pick, though, Drayano's hacks are all pretty solid and tend to leave a lot of the important things alone.

Maybe my Google-fu is lacking, but I’m having a tough time finding a list of Drayano’s hacks. I guess this is it?
(Wait, found it; I’ll elaborate below)

Here’s your compulsory “Play them vanilla, on original hardware” comment,

I’ve played the originals enough, that’s why I’m looking for something new.

Gen 1 - Red++
Gen 2 - Polished Crystal if you like it classic, Crystal Clear if youd like to try one that’s feature-rich
Gen 3 - there are approximately 11 billion ways to play, but I like Radical Red. There are far more vanilla ones out there.

Red++ and Polished Crystal look pretty good. I played Crystal Clear a few years ago and do like it (I actually posted the skin tone patch here many pages ago, though I don’t know if it’s still the latest version). Radical Red looks good, but it’s not Gen 3 (I mean it is, but it’s Gen 1 remakes).

For anyone curious, I did some more digging and found this Reddit thread compiling the sub’s most popular hacks into a Google doc, which is itself compiled from a series of threads linked in the top comment. Pokemon R.O.W.E. looks interesting, so I might try that.

 

[Lizard Machine Bugs]

Gen 2 - Polished Crystal if you like it classic, Crystal Clear if youd like to try one that’s feature-rich

I'm trying out Crystal Legacy right now, it's pretty nice.

 

[negativlad]

Radical Red looks good, but it’s not Gen 3 (I mean it is, but it’s Gen 1 remakes).

Ah, I get you. I think Inclement Emerald (maybe the EX version of it which exchanges compatibility for customization) can get you as close to or as far from the regular gen 3 experience as you like; as far as I can tell it’s like Radical Red except Emerald and a little less Radical Red-y, if you feel me.

 

[Registration]

So what's the best way to play each generation (or at least the first three)? I know it's a very subjective question, but it feels like a new improvement/enhancement/balance/full-Pokedex/whatever-the-fuck hack is released every week, and I've lost count.

For what it's worth, I prefer hacks that don't alter base stats/moves/type matchups. I'll make an exception if something like that is altered to match a newer game, but that's it.

There is some cringe like having romantic interactions but Pokémon Emerald Enhanced is my favorite way to play Hoenn, it gives new life by adding a ton of features from future games and adding new stuff like map expansions and some story changes (like deciding to help team aqua or magma)

 

[AnotherPleb]

Finally got around to finishing Scarlet the other day. Man, it's a crying shame that the generation is such a technical clusterfuck because otherwise it might have been one of my favourite mainline games. Hopefully their engine isn't held together with string next time, though I'm not holding my breath.

You're playing it after all the bug fixes and even then there's areas in the game with massive performance hits.