Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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That opening literally broke me in the original sun and moon. I didn't make it past it, I just assumed the entire game was going to be that bum-fucked retarded and gave up and it was the last Pokemon mainline game I ever bought.
There are interruptions all the way through, but that first island is way more egregious than the rest of it.
 
If someone asked me to make a Pokémon fangame (or maybe even an official spinoff) and I had the time and resources, I'd love to make one based on Team Magma or Aqua succeeding. One game would have a lower sea level, traversable sea routes by foot and an industrial theme. The other having a higher sea level, expanded dive routes and have certain areas more densely populated like Pacifidlog Town (City?). Just want to put that out there.
 
I'd love to make one based on Team Magma or Aqua succeeding.
Or even one where they're not complete retards. They might have one of the most world ending ambitions of any evil team in the series, but holy shot, they're dumb. How can you think Groudon will be awoken by the blue orb and Kyogre the red orb? I guess it's so the player ends up awakening them but they could have easily done a Rayquaza where it flees for you to later catch.

While we're on gen 3, while it's not my personal face, it might have the best legendary trio in the entire series. Kyogre/Groudon/Rayquaza are great.

I always thought it was a bit confusing how fast Groudon is though, 90 base speed. It's not just me who thinks he looks slow, right?
 
Bro i'm happy i never got into reddit as it is a site for low t numales. I was browsing amino for a while after a nuzlocker (not the best in the world, a different one) recommended it.
It was full of troons, fags and furry.
Basically the only topics we're gf hate, gf cocksucking, shinyhunting, anime related cringe and fanart of all eeveelutions fucking each other.

Good to have the farms as a resort to have normal autistic people to discuss with.

Is the pokémon forum that was full of grooming and r34 requests after 24 hours, still online?
 
If someone asked me to make a Pokémon fangame (or maybe even an official spinoff) and I had the time and resources, I'd love to make one based on Team Magma or Aqua succeeding. One game would have a lower sea level, traversable sea routes by foot and an industrial theme. The other having a higher sea level, expanded dive routes and have certain areas more densely populated like Pacifidlog Town (City?). Just want to put that out there.
The same idea as mine, but what I find most interesting about this concept isn't the pokémon gameplay per se but the socio-enviromental part of the hoenn accident.

In my idea it would be a sequel of 8 years after the events (you as ruby/sapphire returns to hoenn after failing to stop the aqua team, you never completed the 8 badge challenge, wo you returned to johto with your mother as the gym leader father stayed on the flooded hoenn)

The lower levels and coastal cities would be flooded and this caused a big societal rift into people hating pokémon and other problems like xenophobia (a person with hoenn accent would be shit talked and treated badly in other regions since the rise of sea level affected them too, this was inspired by the Hibakusha in actual history from the atomic bombs in WWII.
Other concepts would be safe routes for surfing maintained by coastal guard police, groups of pirates trying to steal people on the seas, pacifdloge expansion, the exodus from hoenn to other regions and people wondering if they should raise their children in this waterfucked hoenn at all. Sootopolis city would become something like the 70's-90's city of kowloon in China by building around the mountains and going up and up covering the overall view from the sun in the water. Having some jobs to dive and recuperate itens in flooded cities like slateport, a city that is on a gigantic boat, magikarp farma intended to eating, the fallabor town would become a great agrarian city by producing vegetables. Fight for resources like drinkable water and river water in case of farms.

As for pokemon, new regional variants and evolution would surge, people would sometimes hate them or not, some would attack humans since they are also competing with resources now, making some pokemon hunters straight up killing pokemon in case of dunno, donphans raiding the farms. Also group of pokemon activists like team plasma acting retarded as they come from different regions and have no idea of how things changed in hoenn would be nice too.

The gym and league would of course cease to be in these 8 years but would resurge in minimal ways, instead of just fighting, the Gym challenges would be some minigame or puzzle to help a place in the area then you get to fight the gym trainer (some would be the same but older and some would be new) and maybe in lesser numbers like 4 or 6.

As for team magma, they would be considered heroes and help people.

If this game truly existed, the ruby/sapphire would have a totally new map and dex and would make sense to have two versions.

Maybe the big plot would use time travel/celebi to turns things back to normal or just improve their lives and accept the new reality.

It is a cool concept for me, and I would love to write these tidbits of npcs dialogue talking about these kind of stuff.
 
I had these ideas too. Kowloon was in Hong Kong.
The ideas write themselves.

As for some bits, maybe the mayor/leader of the boat would be Drake/Steven, who would stop with pokémon battles and rock collection in order to succeed his father as the president of Devon corporation, who would involve themselves more with technology like a amazon equivalent delivering stuff on the seas or short propellers to move people around the water without pokemon. One cool bit would be watson helping the devon corporation to create a termo energy cable system from the vulcan to supply energy to all of hoenn with underwater cables (that would also be targets of underwater pirates)

As for team aqua, maybe Archie would be a prison leader since the crime rate would increase, he would be the first in this prison in one of the underwater caves alongside other criminals like pirates, so maybe one story would be about him escaping the prison or something with other agents of team aqua helping from outside.

As for character writing, I would like to see norman relationship with Ruby/sapphire to be bad since they took their mother side on the divorce and left hoenn to go back to johto and norman stayed to help rebuilding.

Maybe the rival would have bad feelings for the rival who left or something.

Maybe new teams with Juan and wallace as their leader.

There are some places where I have no idea about what to do like the desert, the tree city, the ice cave and so on, but I would love to see more cave systems being dug out and have more underground/underwater cities (maybe maintaned by some bullshit pokemon like manaphy or something.
 
problems like xenophobia
groups of pirates trying to steal people on the seas
Fight for resources like drinkable water and river water in case of farms
making some pokemon hunters straight up killing pokemon in case of dunno
I would like to see norman relationship with Ruby/sapphire to be bad since they took their mother side on the divorce
Honestly, I hate the more edgier concepts. Maybe it would work for a grimdark fangame.
Submerged or no longer dry.
Submerged, probably.
the tree city
Would still exist and be improved upon using normal materials.
 
Honestly, I hate the more edgier concepts. Maybe it would work for a grimdark fangame.

Submerged or no longer dry.

Submerged, probably.

Would still exist and be improved upon using normal materials.
The nature of the fictional game would be edgier naturally. It would feel wrong to make this idea set 8 years later and to not have people angry at their situation.

The 8 year gap actually helps me justify some changes in the map and how they happened, for example lets say the desert was going to be flooded, since they can barricade it with stones. Or even making it an artificial dam to store/stop water.

In Rustboro for example since it is a big city, the gym trainer/devon/steven could help by making a wall with stone, stopping the water, using the mountain above verdantuff tunnel as material.

Existing structures like the cyclo path would be turned into something else as a path or even a new city alongside it like a dock to boats.


It all depends of how high you want the water and how you justify the changes that the characters would have on the event. For example I can see the diggers at verdantuff town making barriers or moats between their town and mauville to stop the water or diminish their impact or just leave the town and go up the mountain.
 
All this talk about deserts reminds me that the desert in Unova is like 1 city block and features an ancient ruin replete with mummies and ancient constructs within Repel distance of two major cities. Unova is fucking wild.
 
All this talk about deserts reminds me that the desert in Unova is like 1 city block and features an ancient ruin replete with mummies and ancient constructs within Repel distance of two major cities. Unova is fucking wild.
I imagine the Japanese just can't comprehend the scale of the US.

"So we're making an America region right? What kind of climate do they have?? WHAT!? ALL OF THEM!?"

Edit:
Did wally die from his asthma when the flood happened?
Wally has been entombed in a new submarine named the Iron Lung to escape the increase in allergens. Some say it's just his ghost piloting the sub now... you can encounter him occasionally patrolling the depths looking for his long lost (drowned) male Gardevoir... His only love in this life... or the next.
 
Jesus just got an idea for Juan/wallace team. They could capture/steal ice pokémon from the normal people that could learn ice moves in order to create icebergs and send it to north/sinnoh, bit by bit in order to lower the water level. It sounds retarded so the big brain move would involve regice + some special rock or even evolution.

This sounds retarded, because it actually kinda happens in the superman returns movie with lex luthor's plan was to make a new country out of kryptonite and sell the land and get rich lol.

All this talk about deserts reminds me that the desert in Unova is like 1 city block and features an ancient ruin replete with mummies and ancient constructs within Repel distance of two major cities. Unova is fucking wild.
And most of the main tomb in the desert it is locked until later in the big plot of the game.

Did wally die from his asthma when the flood happened?
Only in the Ruby equivalent lol.

Wally would thrive on sea hoenn with his milotic
 
The nature of the fictional game would be edgier naturally. It would feel wrong to make this idea set 8 years later and to not have people angry at their situation.
My main point should have been the region would be noticeably worse and have a sadder tone but there's a line to be drawn. The Pokémon world already has many dangerous Pokémon roaming about and evil teams trying to destroy the world without it losing its cheery aesthetic. For example, pirates kidnapping random people feel like such an escalation to me.
 
My main point should have been the region would be noticeably worse and have a sadder tone but there's a line to be drawn. The Pokémon world already has many dangerous Pokémon roaming about and evil teams trying to destroy the world without it losing its cheery aesthetic. For example, pirates kidnapping random people feel like such an escalation to me.
Hard agree. Worldbuilding is one thing but that sort of edginess can get just dumb. Divorce with Norman is also dumb. It would be way more interesting to see the family trying to stick together and cope with their new life, running into hardships but always coming back to each other in the end. That'd be real kino.
 
Wally has been entombed in a new submarine named the Iron Lung to escape the increase in allergens. Some say it's just his ghost piloting the sub now... you can encounter him occasionally patrolling the depths looking for his long lost (drowned) male Gardevoir... His only love in this life... or the next.
Take my money.
He's a mysterious loner that only follows his own agenda, like zinnia from the delta episode. Sometimes helping the pirates, sometimes aiding the player or inflicting aids on others.
You can fight him as a secret superboss after you defeated big bad and captured legendary.
He can't leave the submarine, so after defeating his Team, you'll fight the Iron Lung like the team star starmobiles.
He will fire Gardevoir shaped torpedos with a suspicious brown stain on top at you.
After defeating him, he recognizes you, apologize it took him so long as he is autistic and also mental load, thanks you for helping to catch ralts and the Iron Lung collapses.
Suddenly, Gardevoirs ghost appears out of nowwhere and happily takes him to the afterlife.
 
My main point should have been the region would be noticeably worse and have a sadder tone but there's a line to be drawn. The Pokémon world already has many dangerous Pokémon roaming about and evil teams trying to destroy the world without it losing its cheery aesthetic. For example, pirates kidnapping random people feel like such an escalation to me.
Ah for the tone of the story would be something like Pokémon Special manga storylines, it is more realistic and well built than the plot of the games but not near adultlike in tone, just the right amount.

One important bit that I left out is that since the people that still lives on hoenn are the kind that have hopes for a better future by rebuilding it or adapting to this new nature.

Hard agree. Worldbuilding is one thing but that sort of edginess can get just dumb. Divorce with Norman is also dumb. It would be way more interesting to see the family trying to stick together and cope with their new life, running into hardships but always coming back to each other in the end. That'd be real kino.
Except this can't happen, would the protagonist (you) live on hoenn and never left petalburg in 8 years? If the family sticks together be it in hoenn or johto, it would shines a bad light into either the family for not knowing shit about this new hoenn or norman.

For a son/daughter to understand the father perspective that to help others may be more interesting/realistic than just staying up together as a family.

Recently in this year, the State of Rio Grande do Sul was flooded by a colossal amount of rain, and was flooded for a month.

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There are various cases of people dying by trying to help others, leaving their safe homes to go help people in the flooded area, and some even dying in the process. I see Norman as one of these people, not one who would leave hoenn, but of course ruby/sapphire mother would value the safety of the kids over a region they don't grew up, so that is the point of this choice.

And of course, this is something that happens to the protagonist itself in the normal games (emerald he goes to the sky pillar) and of course Ruby in the manga storyline does put himself in danger in order to protect sapphire
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Hard agree. Worldbuilding is one thing but that sort of edginess can get just dumb. Divorce with Norman is also dumb. It would be way more interesting to see the family trying to stick together and cope with their new life, running into hardships but always coming back to each other in the end. That'd be real kino.
It be a nice story beat to see that the moment things went to shit Norman dropped everything and clamored to get to his wife and kid to ensure their safety.
 
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