Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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Not even Lorelei? She needs that attitude corrected.
Not for the feint of heart
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For those of you who are still playing Pokémon GO Niantic recently announced 2024’s GO Tour and, to no one’s surprise, it’s Sinnoh-themed. The Global version will take place on February 24th & 25th and an in-person event will be held in Los Angeles the week before.

Oh, and Pokébeach put out a list of the top 15 most valuable cards in Shiny Treasure ex.
  1. Iono (SAR): 60,000 yen ($405)
  2. Charizard ex (SAR): 30,000 yen ($203)
  3. Gardevoir ex (SAR): 17,000 yen ($115)
  4. Penny (SAR): 16,000 yen ($109)
  5. Mew ex (SAR): 14,000 yen ($95)
  6. Pikachu (S): 12,000 yen ($81)
  7. Mimikyu (AR): 7,000 yen ($48)
  8. Nemona (SAR): 6,000 yen ($41)
  9. Clive (SAR): 4,000 yen ($27)
  10. Arven (SAR): 3,500 yen ($24)
  11. Charmander (S): 3,000 yen ($20)
  12. Miraidon ex (UR): 3,000 yen ($20)
  13. Charizard ex (SSR): 3,000 yen ($20)
  14. Mew ex (SSR): 2,800 yen ($19)
  15. Mimikyu (S): 2,500 yen ($17)
  16. Pawmi (AR): 2,200 yen ($15)
And here’s my take on it.
Iono being the most expensive of the bunch isn’t too surprising, the card is a tournament staple and the Secret Illustration Rare from Clay Burst/Paldea Evolved is still expensive ~6 months after they were released.

On the topic of prices don’t expect that cards from the English version of the set will go for the same price. I wouldn’t be surprised if the English Secret Illustration Rares go for anywhere between half-to-a-fourth of what the Japanese cards are going for. Some Shiny Rares like Charmander and Pikachu will probably be one-to-one price wise but the rest should be cheaper.

The title of the article mentioning a Top 15 but proceeding to list 16 looks weird but it makes sense when you realize that the Shiny Mimikyu Illustration Rare is being plucked from the main set and turned into an ETB promo.

The usage of Mercari as a source is funky at best, a better source would be Yahoo! Japan’s auctions or using eBay’s recently-sold listings.
 
So I beat Pokemon Scarlet last night and ho boy what a mess of a game that is.

I'll go over what I'll like first. Free roam is awesome, being able to pick and choose which pokemon you want to get is neat and being able to see Shinny's makes shinny hunting a bit easier. The new pokemon are pretty neat and i love the idea of Paradox Pokemon. Specially the future versions as I'm big into mecha shit.

Cons. Performance in this game absolutely fucking blows. I don't know what they are doing with whatever budget to come up with this but its fucking disgusting. I've always loved the character designs of Pokemon but this gen is just bland I hate it.

Also the gym making you doing an test before you can enter and they can shove you out is kinda insulting.

Either way I'm gonna be transferring my shit to home and absolutely going to forget about the game.
 
The Indigo Disk releases in less than two weeks, I guess I should prepare a team since my VGC team isn’t particularly good.
Free roam is awesome, being able to pick and choose which pokemon you want to get is neat and being able to see Shinny's makes shinny hunting a bit easier.
I agree with this to a certain extent, the only issue I have is that the loss of PLA’s Shiny spawn SFX makes Shiny hunting a bit more difficult with some species being downright obnoxious.
The new pokemon are pretty neat and i love the idea of Paradox Pokemon. Specially the future versions as I'm big into mecha shit.
Agreed to an extent as well, I just wish that Paradox Pokémon went beyond “X-Pokémon-but-add-dinosaur/robot-features-to-it” since it kind of makes them feel a bit same-y.
Performance in this game absolutely fucking blows. I don't know what they are doing with whatever budget to come up with this but its fucking disgusting
It’s been mentioned before ITT but there are two major issues with SV that appear to be the craptastic performance: a known memory leak issue and the game rendering a planet-sized sphere of water with Paldea on top of it to get the water physics right. I wouldn’t be surprised if the workplace restrictions put into place during the Wu Flu fiasco also caused less QA testing during the gam,e’s development, it affected other games that were developed during that time (one of them being SSBU’s Steve DLC).
I've always loved the character designs of Pokemon but this gen is just bland I hate it.
The character designs in SV are definitely hit-or-miss, some characters look decent but others look like dogshit, it doesn’t help that the SV in general has a semi-realistic look to it and that one of the newer character designers worked on World’s End Club before working on SV.
Also the gym making you doing an test before you can enter and they can shove you out is kinda insulting.
I‘m personally not insulted by it, GF is essentially trying to mix the trials from SM/USUM’s Island Challenge (which were well-liked since they broke the monotony of past Gens’ Gyms) and the Gym Leader battles.

Also, it’s worth noting that while GF advertised that you could take on the Gyms, Titans, and Team Star Bases in any order you like they all still follow a path due to them all having set levels.
 
Well, I finally completed Grand Colosseum. Took me a bit longer than I planned since, well, the mod certainly wasn't kidding about increasing it's difficulty. I will write my impressions here. For context, I didn't just complete the main game, but also the post game and took the Mt. Battle 100 trainers in a row challenge(which might have the toughest battles in all of Gen 3).
Since this is a total conversion instead of a brand new game like SG97, I will simply list pros and cons compared to the base game. If you never played Colosseum I heavily suggest you try it out, it's a double-battle centric title with a unique atmosphere and a very unique balance centered around limited pool of Pokemon, most of which you have to "purify" instead of just being able to use them from the get-go. That said, I actually used some of my own Pokemon for the most part, using Trigger's PC app(Gen 3 Pokebank) to transfer them over. While not the intended experience it makes both this one and original Colosseum much more enjoyable as I always saw the double battles themselves as the main reason to play the game, with Shadow Pokemon a nice extra. I actually wrote a .txt doc to draft my team-building sets, like I usually do with other games(SG97 was an exception since I was walking in blind and couldn't transfer my old Pokemon), so details of my team will be listed in an attached file below.

For now, here are my impressions of Grand Colosseum:
Pros:
+Harder difficulty, just as advertised
+Physical/Special split and Fairy Type additions
+Brand new moves taken from later generations replacing some of the more useless base game ones
+New Shadow Pokemon and enemy teams, to complement above changes
+Re-usable TMs like in later generations
+Mt. Battle is now a place for EV training: First 60 battles are each dedicated to a specific stat(SpDef, Def, Spd, SpA, Atk, HP in that order) while the remaining 40 are now the toughest battles in the game, including facing off against Legendary Pokemon in the last few battles. This and the above point make it worth playing by itself, if you're planning to train good amount of Pokemon competitively for Battle Frontier or even base game story(Which can be done by transferring Pokemon back and forth via Trigger's PC app)
+Two brand new Pokemon: Alolan Marowak and Ninetales
+Shadow Pokemon have rare or unobtainable moves, just like in Gale of Darkness
+All Pokemon now evolve normally, without needing trading or special items
+Very useful level up sets for all Pokemon that give them moves they cannot normally learn in Generation 3 or sometimes at all. See my .txt document for more info
+Game lets you choose your own region starter and Legendary trio(base game only has three Johto starters and Legendary Dogs, you can now choose Kanto or Hoenn "editions" of the game)
+Many Pokemon have added typings which make them much more interesting to play with or against(see my .txt document for some examples)
+Many Pokemon have brand new abilities, some of which are the same as their hidden abilities down the line. Notably, all three gen starter Pokemon have their hidden abilities, such as Blaziken's Speed Boost or Venusaur's Chlorophyll. Unfortunately, due to how Gen 3 games work, neither the abilities or typings are transferable over to main titles
+Some one-time tutor moves available as infinite-use TMs, making Grand Colosseum even more invaluable for Battle Frontier enjoyers
+Many trainers, that includes story bosses, now have not just competitive teams but one centered around actual strategies and gimmicks
+Colosseums are now gyms, with the first 2 each having 4 rounds each based off one specific type and the last pre post-game Colosseum having two types covered in each round

Cons:
-Awful new Rui model
-Trigger's PC users beware: The new Alolan Pokemon corrupt the savefile and make it unusable within the app. Moreover, even seeing them and registering them in the Pokedex cause saves to be unreadable by said app, only way to be able to transfer Pokemon back and forth(such as for EV training or to get special moves) is to simply not encounter them. First Alolan Pokemon is encounted in The Under, so if you're wishing to use Trigger's PC, simply never fight Venus or progress past that point. This does make a good portion of Shadow Pokemon uncatchable this way, unless you do what I did below:
-With my save unreadable to Trigger's PC, I had to get creative with my options. What worked was the following: Download "PokemonGCSaveEditor" app that lets me manually change Alolan Pokemon caught to normal Kanto variants, save all the PC boxes using PKHex once the two "Alolan" Pokemon show up as uncorrupted, and then transfer them over to a back-up save I made before Venus, which let me create/replace Pokemon that I had at that point using PKHex. That savefile now has Pokemon from the completed savefile but game progress essentially halted to the point before corruption. Not a perfect solution, as that means I cannot bring over any items not being held or divide money/Pokecoupons with other games as Trigger's PC allows, but at least I got to retrieve my old/new Pokemon. Heavily recommend to backup a save before fighting Venus and then transferring Pokemon using this method once you finish the game
-Somewhat sketchy balancing if you're not using transferred Pokemon like me. Note that there is only one dungeon that you can grind for XP before post-game, other than Mt. Battle, which makes what is already a boring process even more tedious if you're unlucky enough to need leveling
-While I appreciate the smaller pool of Pokemon forcing you to think outside the box, as well as making more Pokemon viable now, the teams the game throws at you later on are ridiculous competitive teams often having Legendary Pokemon within them. Not sure if it's viable to complete the game only with the Shadow Pokemon the game provides, wild Pokemon obviously don't exist so I heavily recommend simply bringing over your favorites from other games
-Some text descriptions don't match up anymore(ie Gen 2 starters are still brought up when I chose the Gen 3 option in incidental text), one of the last trainers in Mt. Battle was changed to reference some sort of streamer the ROMhack creator liked for some reason, even namedropping "Youtube" in a game that predates it(there is no changes like that in text anywhere else in the mod)
-Some animations for new moves or moves that Pokemon wasn't supposed to learn look janky, for obvious reasons


Overall, I very much liked this mod. Just for the boon of useful moves and an easy way to train my party makes this worth a play for anybody serious about Pokemon. I wouldn't recommend this to casual players, as the game gets very hard towards the end(especially in Mt. Battle and in post game), in that case I recommend base Colosseum which is still very hard by modern standards but much more forgiving. Other than the small nitpicks I mentioned(and a large one if you plan on using Trigger's PC) this is better than original in every way, and I plan on using this ROMhack for years to come to help train my team for future playthrus/Battle Frontier. The fact I now have two different Colosseum files loaded up in Dolphin is a testament to that.

If you're playing along, I plan to try Gale of Darkness ROMhack Pokemon XG: NeXt Generation. Grand Colosseum has been a valuable experience, as far as to keep backup files for Trigger's PC, so I will have to do my research to see if this one also has some brand new Pokemon like the Alolan forms here. Considering that Gale of Darkness is an improvement over Colosseum in pretty much every way(except for the setting, as it waters it down a little) I can't wait to see what a ROMhack similar to GC will look like for it. Honestly, both of the GC titles are pretty much what I imagine perfect 3D console Pokemon games to be, forget the Switch titles entirely. This would be all I need if people found a way to mod these games with new campaigns just as easily as the Gameboy/DS titles.
 

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Pokérap guy #2: "You just do all the singing; I'll take care of the hard part."
Also Pokérap guy #2: "We?? What's all this 'we' stuff? I'm doin' all the hard work!"

Sorry for the shitpost. I've seen the original Pokérap a million times and only just noticed now.
 
"tism time: Scarlet and Violet are pretty clearly meant to be de-facto orange and purple in their color schemes this gen, but it bugs me they still follow scarlet's actual red chrome a lot in advertising and media. Shoulda just chosen names that either imply the usual red/blue dichtomy or non-color names and slap the red/blue on them.
 
The slow news days eem to grating on us.
I awai the release of The Indigo Disk. At least I can actually ge to my hack that way.
Eh, I've just been playing a lot of poke recently and I always end up blurting random thoughts into the thread when that happens.

What do you guys think of Raboot's design? I've been watching random clips from the show and he's really grown on me. Look at him hide behind his ears when he's embarrassed:
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It almost make me forget how much they dropped the ball with Cinderace's design.

Ok I'll stop now.
 
It almost make me forget how much they dropped the ball with Cinderace's design.
I'll never stop hating this trend of just taking a career or something similar and just making it a humanoid animal creature and calling it a Pokémon. A cat wrestler, a bird archer, a cat musician, a bird dancing faggot, a frog ninja, and so on.
 
Eh, I've just been playing a lot of poke recently and I always end up blurting random thoughts into the thread when that happens.

What do you guys think of Raboot's design? I've been watching random clips from the show and he's really grown on me. Look at him hide behind his ears when he's embarrassed:
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It almost make me forget how much they dropped the ball with Cinderace's design.

Ok I'll stop now.
I had him in the game and he was better looking than Cinderace but his lack of suitable animations was ridiculous.
 
I'll never stop hating this trend of just taking a career or something similar and just making it a humanoid animal creature and calling it a Pokémon. A cat wrestler, a bird archer, a cat musician, a bird dancing faggot, a frog ninja, and so on.
Pretty much everything Lone Star said up here sums it up. Doesn't help that Scorbunny's colors look weird and every decision made about its design was executed poorly.

Yeah, the slow news week is a bit grating. It's kind of like anticipating the dentist I guess. Just some really shitty thing that you know is going to happen and you're waiting to get it over with.
 
Eh, I've just been playing a lot of poke recently and I always end up blurting random thoughts into the thread when that happens.

What do you guys think of Raboot's design? I've been watching random clips from the show and he's really grown on me. Look at him hide behind his ears when he's embarrassed:
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It almost make me forget how much they dropped the ball with Cinderace's design.

Ok I'll stop now.

He's wearing a headband.
 
Yeah, the slow news week is a bit grating. It's kind of like anticipating the dentist I guess. Just some really shitty thing that you know is going to happen and you're waiting to get it over with.
I think the opposite. I a mor excited, not just because I am going to get hacking material but I will have my curiosity satisfied. There is also me awaiting thi since... about all this year, actually. A big part of the grate is the wait since February.

I just hope that both the DLC are going to be bundled wi the main game in the future.
 
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