Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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Friendly Primarina said:
I just beat the Elite Four in SoulSilver for the first time and something's bugging me. I missed out on gen II when I was a kid so everything about this generation is relatively new to me.

Why does the game push you so hard to fight/catch the box legendary? In the first gen the legendaries were just chilling at the end of a dungeon, and it was up to the player to decide whether to get involved. In the later gens there was some sort of global catastrophe that the legendary was either perpetuating or could help stop (though I haven't played either gen IV/V in a decade, so I could be remembering wrong). In gen II, on the other hand, Team Rocket has already been defeated, and there's no impending disaster. So why is the game so urgent with the kimono girls performing their ceremony and the game refusing to let me progress? Why do we need to make Ho-oh/Lugia appear? It's just odd.

Also, am I the only person who genuinely thought the kimono girls were the same woman following me around?
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It's because they want the main legendaries to be more involved in the story rather than be a side mission. It is on the main box art, so why not give the sucker some special treatment? I never minded it personally because they've almost always done it in a way to showcase the legend's power and give them a cool introduction.

It could be worse. They could do what some fan games (Resurgence, Reborn, etc.) have done and made almost every legendary pokemon in the series be involved in the story one way or another.
 
Nauseated Courgi said:
It's because they want the main legendaries to be more involved in the story rather than be a side mission. It is on the main box art, so why not give the sucker some special treatment? I never minded it personally because they've almost always done it in a way to showcase the legend's power and give them a cool introduction.

It could be worse. They could do what some fan games (Resurgence, Reborn, etc.) have done and made almost every legendary pokemon in the series be involved in the story one way or another.
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Reminder that special alternate versions of pokemon like spikey earred pichu were not tried again.

Sure there were regional forms but its not the same as a subspecies of pichu exclusive to HG/SS that unlocks the "pikachu colored" Pichu. It's Redundant since both pichu and pikachu are the same fucking color scheme in game, but still a neat little event that would have made more sense to unlock Celebi or something since you visit the same shrine for spikey earred pichu's event that the celebi event happens at in the original games in Ilex Forest.
 
Green's Harbinger said:
Sure there were regional forms but its not the same as a subspecies of pichu exclusive to HG/SS that unlocks the "pikachu colored" Pichu. It's Redundant since both pichu and pikachu are the same fucking color scheme in game, but still a neat little event that would have made more sense to unlock Celebi or something since you visit the same shrine for spikey earred pichu's event that the celebi event happens at in the original games in Ilex Forest.
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Wasn't it the other way around (discolored pichu for spiky ear)? Source: Did it in a recent playthrough to get the Zap Plate, because I missed the Week Sibling with the magnet by one day.

Even though it would never be technically feasible, does anyone else think the English localizations would do well to have gendered pronouns? It just feels weird to be told over and over that Pokemon are pets/partners/special and still refer to them as "it." Case in point:
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Dunno, it just sounds awkward to me.
 
Friendly Primarina said:
Even though it would never be technically feasible, does anyone else think the English localizations would do well to have gendered pronouns? It just feels weird to be told over and over that Pokemon are pets/partners/special and still refer to them as "it." Case in point:
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Dunno, it just sounds awkward to me.
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IIRC TPCi flip-flops on gendered and gender-neutral pronoun usage when referring to the creatures themselves for some unngodly reason, a BW-era licensing “guidebook” tells licensors to use gender-neutral pronouns for ALL Pokémon but games made by GF occasionally refer to certain Pokémon with gendered pronouns.
 
Friendly Primarina said:
Even though it would never be technically feasible, does anyone else think the English localizations would do well to have gendered pronouns? It just feels weird to be told over and over that Pokemon are pets/partners/special and still refer to them as "it." Case in point:
pikacloud.png
Dunno, it just sounds awkward to me.
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It would be nice to have Pokémon referred to with their proper pronouns but it'll mean relocating some of the budget from other departments and with Gamefreak's track record of getting their money's worth, I think it's a terrible idea. Just use your imagination. I always refer to my Pokémon with their gender like my female Dusknoir is "she" and "her", my male Overqwil is "he" and "him" while genderless Pokémon are still "it".
 
Psyduck said:
Waited for years to get a Pokemon combining my two favorite types

What i expected

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What we got

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Disgusting
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Still not as bad as this:
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This is still got to be the ugliest Pokemon design I’ve ever seen, I can’t actually believe it’s real, it looks like a fan made 2008 design from a 15 year old drew it. I understand that it must be extremely difficult to come up with new designs with nearly 900 different designs but they really are scraping the bottom of the barrel here. Shape up Game freak.
 
thegooddoctor said:
Still not as bad as this:
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This is still got to be the ugliest Pokemon design I’ve ever seen, I can’t actually believe it’s real, it looks like a fan made 2008 design from a 15 year old drew it. I understand that it must be extremely difficult to come up with new designs with nearly 900 different designs but they really are scraping the bottom of the barrel here. Shape up Game freak.
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I'm not saying this to be rude or edgy but that looks like a prostitute.
With the theme of love, you go with lust? You could have made a motherly look or a bride but nah, lust.
 
thegooddoctor said:
Still not as bad as this:


This is still got to be the ugliest Pokemon design I’ve ever seen, I can’t actually believe it’s real, it looks like a fan made 2008 design from a 15 year old drew it. I understand that it must be extremely difficult to come up with new designs with nearly 900 different designs but they really are scraping the bottom of the barrel here. Shape up Game freak.
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I refuse to believe this is real.
 
thegooddoctor said:
Still not as bad as this:
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This is still got to be the ugliest Pokemon design I’ve ever seen, I can’t actually believe it’s real, it looks like a fan made 2008 design from a 15 year old drew it. I understand that it must be extremely difficult to come up with new designs with nearly 900 different designs but they really are scraping the bottom of the barrel here. Shape up Game freak.
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Honestly? I've seen worse. It's not the prettiest design, sure, but I still like it.
Kuchipatchi said:
I'm not saying this to be rude or edgy but that looks like a prostitute.
With the theme of love, you go with lust? You could have made a motherly look or a bride but nah, lust.
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Love and lust go hand-and-hand, IMO. Yeah, there are other cases like unconditional love, but when you're designing a creature that's based on love itself why not go for a lustful theme? Although, I do like the idea of a motherly genie (Unfortunately, that kind of design would have resulted in a shit ton of "mommy" coomer jokes and porn).
 
Massively Strong Greed said:
@Nauseated Courgi is there even a single Pokémon design you dislike?
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Not really. I acknowledge that there are some pretty ugly pokemon designs, but I don't dislike them because of it. At most, I'm just indifferent to it. My hatred for a pokemon more comes from how annoying they are to fight against, online or otherwise.

For example, I hate Urshifu because of its bullshit signature move that melts through my teams when I fight a player that has one.
 
All of the genies look like C-tier Yu-Gi-Oh card monsters and Gen 5 in general is the nadir of the franchise, design-wise. Most of them are serviceable (mostly ones designed by Sugimori) but this was the gen that also had Ice Cream, Muppets, Trash Bag, Snowflake, A Literal Fetus, OSHA Weasel, and whatever the fuck was going on with Swoobat. Even the worst of the gens before and after it, like Probopass and Bruxish, can't stack up to the piles of trash in 5.
 
negativlad said:
All of the genies look like C-tier Yu-Gi-Oh card monsters and Gen 5 in general is the nadir of the franchise, design-wise. Most of them are serviceable (mostly ones designed by Sugimori) but this was the gen that also had Ice Cream, Muppets, Trash Bag, Snowflake, A Literal Fetus, OSHA Weasel, and whatever the fuck was going on with Swoobat. Even the worst of the gens before and after it, like Probopass and Bruxish, can't stack up to the piles of trash in 5.
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Nothing in Gen 5 looks as fucking ridiculous as Duraludon, Blipbug, Eiscue, or Calyrex.
 
thegooddoctor said:
Still not as bad as this:
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This is still got to be the ugliest Pokemon design I’ve ever seen, I can’t actually believe it’s real, it looks like a fan made 2008 design from a 15 year old drew it. I understand that it must be extremely difficult to come up with new designs with nearly 900 different designs but they really are scraping the bottom of the barrel here. Shape up Game freak.
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I recently read that a lot of the designs people hate are actually made by some newer western hires, like the infamous ice cream cone Pokemon. So we're really just essentially getting offical weeb fan creations, not Sugimori/Masuda/[insert old Japs from original team] designs anymore.

I know people point out Grimer or Magnemite from the original games as a counterpoint, but they just work. Grimer is simple but charming, like Slime from Dragon Quest. Ice cream cone with faces is just uninspired trash.
 
Massively Strong Greed said:
Nothing in Gen 5 looks as fucking ridiculous as Duraludon, Blipbug, Eiscue, or Calyrex.
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Eiscue is probably the worse offender of the four. It's probably the only design that I could say is lazy and uninspired. Blipbug is saved by its evolution and while Duraludon and Calyrex designs are ridiculous, the goofiness of their designs has charm.

Eiscue is just a normal penguin with an ice cube face. Of all the designs they could have gone with for a concept like "a penguin wearing ice" they settled on that? Not something like an ice-armored knight that protects royal figures?
SSj_Ness said:
I know people point out Grimer or Magnemite from the original games as a counterpoint, but they just work. Grimer is simple but charming, like Slime from Dragon Quest. Ice cream cone with faces is just uninspired trash.
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But I can say the same about the Vanillish line. The ice cream theming is silly, but it works. Especially when you take the lore reasoning for its appearance into account.
 
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