Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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King Koalemos said:
tldr, why does ash never use his entire stash of pokemon in these fights.

bring all your MVPs, goddamnit.

Has Charizard even popped up in the current show?
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I think in Hoenn he explained to Norman when he met him that he doesn't do that because "He wants to try to train the new Pokemon of the region"

Of course, the real reason is to show off the new Pokemon of the generation so they can make merchandise.
 
Kari Kamiya said:
It's very contradictory on its resets, then, 'cause when Mewtwo recently showed up in Journeys, it was explicitly mentioned that's the same Mewtwo from the first movie, and that Ash still remembered him from Mt. Quena in Johto, therefore proving Mewtwo Strikes Back and Mewtwo Returns to be anime canon.

Journeys from what I can tell is the most fanservicey season to date, but it still apparently can't commit to anything.
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so is MTSB the only movie that's canon or something? because the first movie is the only one they ever bring up in terms of ash remembering the events of
 
Cheerlead-in-Chief said:
The Pokémon franchise is full of insane fantards that freak the fuck out if they catch a whiff of you saying something reasonable like, "I grew out of it." "I prefer Digimon over Pokémon" or "I hate Serena's anime portrayal"

It's like you cannot outgrow it and must suck Gamefreak's cock eternally and like it, wart and all with their mobile gacha games.
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There are those types but as a few other posters mentioned, there's the opposite types who despite being self-proclaimed Pokemon fans have some kind of pathological hatred for Game Freak. If you defend GF on anything, or sometimes even if you just express interest in buying an upcoming Pokemon game, they call you a "bootlicker". I think this all started with the dex cut for SwSh and still hasn't ramped down at all. I had actually phased out of playing Pokemon for a few years and the sole reason I picked it back up again was because the hate for SwSh on social media from these types was so intense that I had to see if it was for real. Surprisingly, I really liked the games.

And as someone who was always more of a Digimon person, the absolute hysteria over Dexit never really reached me. I don't think there's been a single Digimon game that actually included the full roster of Digimon, even back in the first couple PS1 games when the roster was fairly small. And I can understand the idea that, with there now being close to 1000 Pokemon, it's becoming more and more difficult to include every single one in every game. Hell, with SwSh's wild area and DLC, it actually has one of the highest number (if not THE highest) of Mons actually catchable in the game. But what the Dexit hysteria seemed to be about is simply the fact that you can't transfer in non-catchable Mons from previous games. I understand why people were upset about it as it's not ideal, but I don't get why it was such a MASSIVE deal that some people boycotted the series over it and are still protesting well over 2 years later.
 
Erich Honecker said:
But what the Dexit hysteria seemed to be about is simply the fact that you can't transfer in non-catchable Mons from previous games. I understand why people were upset about it as it's not ideal, but I don't get why it was such a MASSIVE deal that some people boycotted the series over it and are still protesting well over 2 years later.
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Again, personally I think Dexit was people having problems with the state of the franchise and it boiling it over since a lot of people used pokemon count to excuse stuff like "the battle frontier project has started" and "Please understand we have to compete with mobile games now" and a ton of other weird PR shit people like masuda have said over the years. and when it came to announcing it it was just one of the more public weird PR things game freak had, talking about it at a event after the direct that not many people would watch and trying to not talk about it as much as possible (not in a direct, presents, ect.) Find it weird the dexit shit is still going on on social media but that's probably because I don't use social media. I still think if game freak didn't drop the ball PR wise early on and was more communicative publicly about it would not have been a trash fire, but yah know with a company like TPC hindsight is 2020.
 
The Ultimate Ramotith said:
Do you remember the proto-Dexit when Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire got released?
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Except those Pokemon were still in the code and you could trade/cheat them in. You just couldn't trade up your exact Pokemon from Gen 1 and 2 games because of how drastically different Pokemon were handled mechanically with the changes to IVs, EVs and the addition of natures and abilities.

And yes people will boohoo and call needing 2 Hoenn games, the two GameCube games and a Kanto remake "having to pay to complete your Pokedex" but the reality is Pokemon was, at least initially, about playing with other people so the idea was that everyone in your friend group had one or two games and you all worked together.
 
Rotollo 2 said:
so is MTSB the only movie that's canon or something? because the first movie is the only one they ever bring up in terms of ash remembering the events of
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Mewtwo Strikes Back is canon, yes, but Ash doesn't remember what happened then due to Mewtwo wiping everyone's memories of it. He kept Ash and gang's memories of Mt. Quena intact, however, so that encounter is what Ash believes he knows Mewtwo from.

As for the other movies, it's very dubious where they fit into the timeline, but they're typically believed to be non-canon. The 4KIDS dub tried to link the movies into the TV series, though.
 
SnowBall said:
This is especially bad when it comes from fans of other monster taming games. I’ve extensively documented the monster tamer community’s behavior in a few of my posts in this thread and in the Pokemon clone thread but the tldr version is that they’ll do shit like flip out on Pokemon fans calling a game something innocent like “Pokemoneqsue game.” and accuse them of causing other games in the genre to fail in the west
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The best is how both Temtems and freshly-released Monster Crown used monsters that started as fan-submitted fake pokemon for their promos (that platypus Tem and yellow dragon crownie), indirectly benefitting from pokemon proximity.
MC has really weird design direction, a lot of monsters are bland, some are lifeless-looking dino-uglies, there are like three Cubone ripoffs and mascot monster is actually corpse of another in-game monster animated by magical cordyceps.
 
MC is a lot of fun but also extremely underwhelming, There are only two major characters you interact with a lot and they are card board cutouts with one personality trait. The “good” guy just preaches about love and peace while the other, who is supposed to be the main antagonist, is pure evil and yells about wanting to rule the island. I was half expecting a plot twist where your good friend was evil all along and the antagonist was more like an anti hero because of how basic they were.

The story ends abruptly and it feels less like an ending and more like the halfway mark of a bigger plot. I understand the draw of the game is the monster collecting and fusing but the plot is so incomplete. It’s obvious they wanted it to be simple like the earlier Pokemon games but those games still had a consistent beginning, middle, and end.

I feel bad because I really did enjoy the gameplay and the premise of the story, plus the game is clearly a labor of love. I just hate how underwhelming and anticlimactic it is. I was more fulfilled by the endings of SwSh and XY.
 
SnowBall said:
MC is a lot of fun but also extremely underwhelming, There are only two major characters you interact with a lot and they are card board cutouts with one personality trait. The “good” guy just preaches about love and peace while the other, who is supposed to be the main antagonist, is pure evil and yells about wanting to rule the island. I was half expecting a plot twist where your good friend was evil all along and the antagonist was more like an anti hero because of how basic they were.

The story ends abruptly and it feels less like an ending and more like the halfway mark of a bigger plot. I understand the draw of the game is the monster collecting and fusing but the plot is so incomplete. It’s obvious they wanted it to be simple like the earlier Pokemon games but those games still had a consistent beginning, middle, and end.

I feel bad because I really did enjoy the gameplay and the premise of the story, plus the game is clearly a labor of love. I just hate how underwhelming and anticlimactic it is. I was more fulfilled by the endings of SwSh and XY.
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Tell me, was it buggy for you? I've tried twice to get in to the game, the second only a week or so ago, but every time there's just so many things that drive me nuts. Like the fact that a lot of characters are not-quite-on-the-grid.
 
The game is buggy as hell on the Switch. Crashed constantly and almost got soft locked several times as well as visual glitches. The developer has been waiting awhile for Nintendo to approve the patch to update the game but it should be out soon. I’d suggest anyone who wants to try it on the Switch to wait for now.
 
SnowBall said:
The story ends abruptly and it feels less like an ending and more like the halfway mark of a bigger plot. I understand the draw of the game is the monster collecting and fusing but the plot is so incomplete. It’s obvious they wanted it to be simple like the earlier Pokemon games but those games still had a consistent beginning, middle, and end
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I think they aimed more at Dragon Quest Monsters II thing where plot fuzzes out real early and you just go around into generated worlds and breed monsters to your heart's content.
Note I know nothing about game itself, as edginess I saw in monsters kind of deterred me.
 
If that was the case then it was executed badly. It is clear the writers were overly ambitious with wanting to tell a more involved story while giving the player more agency in exploration but it fell flat.

Also anyone who calls this game a “dark and mature Pokemon game” or “Pokemon for grownups” is full of shit. Aside from the monster designs and a few instances of swearing and violence in the plot the game is nowhere near as dark as it was hyped up to be. It’s only marginally darker than the generation 5 and 7 Pokemon games.
 
Twatette said:
New trailer for PLA.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ayJvMf--68Q
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Seems like a "reveal" for Hisuian Arcanine like they did with Galarian Ponyta for SwSh. People are claiming this frame is a close up of it's face, and I can definitely make out what look like Arcanine ears and what seems to be a Stoutland-esque giant mustache.
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Ido said:
I'm surprised they're doing this again, wasn't the ponyta thing a massive disappointment? It seems they've learned with how short this one is, though.
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The only thing that was dissapointing about that livestream was making us stare at a still image for 24 hours only to reveal like 1 new pokemon and a regional variant.

If we had to wait for like 1/6 of that time, it wouldn't have been as dissapointing.
 
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