Piers Anthony is a Pedophile

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Reverend Mothers can hold diseases in their body dormant and spread them at will so she gave him a powerful fuck flu that degenerated his muscles and caused him to become a disgusting fatbody. Baron was pissed about it but it was incurable and you don't want to make an enemy of (((The Sisterhood))) so he spun his deformity as hedonism.

It just sounds bogus because other Harkonnens are also described as fat and degenerating into even greater obesity later in life, but because of their habits.
 
It just sounds bogus because other Harkonnens are also described as fat and degenerating into even greater obesity later in life, but because of their habits.
The only other Harkonnens in Dune are Feyd-Rautha who's young, lean and muscular and Beast Rabban who's an enormous, cruel and stupid outdoorsman who recreationally hunts beasts like Sandworms and/or natives. He's being played by Dave Bautista in Villeneuve's Dune adaptation which seems like a solid casting decision.
 
The only other Harkonnens in Dune are Feyd-Rautha who's young, lean and muscular and Beast Rabban who's an enormous, cruel and stupid outdoorsman who recreationally hunts beasts like Sandworms and/or natives. He's being played by Dave Bautista in Villeneuve's Dune adaptation which seems like a solid casting decision.

One of the Bene Gesserit compares Vlad to the former and says he wouldn't let himself get fat. Rabban is described as headed in the same direction as Vlad and eventually will need one of those floating suits too.

(The kind of people who bitch about fat-shaming in fiction have complained a lot about the Baron because everything about his physical condition from his fat to his other disgusting skin conditions is portrayed as if it is a moral failing, and in the book actually is. LGBT people have bitched because he's portrayed as sinister and evil for being gay, which isn't really true, as the main thing wrong with him is he's a predatory pedophile.)
 
Should we make a separate thread for Dune/Game of Thrones, or maybe change the thread title to "published authors supporting pedophilia" possibly?
 
I think all the Dune talk has exposed why not much has been said about Piers Anthony on venues bigger than this site: Anthony is too obscure an author for people to give a shit about. His popularity peaked decades ago, and I'm willing to bet that his best selling work was his novelization of Total Recall. I know his earlier stuff was published by Del Ray and Tor, but it looks like Open Road Media has been handling his stuff nowadays. I have no idea how big a publishing house they are, but all of their covers look like shit found on a Google search. I imagine that Anthony is not finding much of a new audience for his older work in a post-Harry Potter world (and let's not kid ourselves, new readers would be more likely to go towards Xanath than anything else), and the only people who read his current stuff are probably perverts, too. The only way I can see Anthony's problematic material becoming a mainstream concern is if someone comes forward accusing him of abuse, or if Xanath manages to get a movie/television adaptation. Neither are that likely at this point, though it sounds like Hollywood flirts with A Spell for Chameleon every few years.
 
Should we make a separate thread for Dune/Game of Thrones, or maybe change the thread title to "published authors supporting pedophilia" possibly?
Dune doesn't really count because it's one pedophile is also a contender for most unlikable antagonists in fiction. Feel free to include William S. Burroughs for Naked Lunch though.
I think all the Dune talk has exposed why not much has been said about Piers Anthony on venues bigger than this site: Anthony is too obscure an author for people to give a shit about. His popularity peaked decades ago, and I'm willing to bet that his best selling work was his novelization of Total Recall. I know his earlier stuff was published by Del Ray and Tor, but it looks like Open Road Media has been handling his stuff nowadays. I have no idea how big a publishing house they are, but all of their covers look like shit found on a Google search. I imagine that Anthony is not finding much of a new audience for his older work in a post-Harry Potter world (and let's not kid ourselves, new readers would be more likely to go towards Xanath than anything else), and the only people who read his current stuff are probably perverts, too. The only way I can see Anthony's problematic material becoming a mainstream concern is if someone comes forward accusing him of abuse, or if Xanath manages to get a movie/television adaptation. Neither are that likely at this point, though it sounds like Hollywood flirts with A Spell for Chameleon every few years.
I can't see Xanath getting an adaptation in this environment, it's more like perverted Lion, Witch, and the Wardrobe then the next Harry Potter or Game of Thrones. If anything gets adapted it would be Incarnations of Immortality, because it's darker and grittier and is filled with power fantasy stuff that people seem to like in current year.
 
The best thing about Xanth was that it was some weird alt-reality Florida. That's about the only thing about it that stuck out to me since I haven't read any since like junior high school. That, and the main female character was basically described as Barbie, and was about as engaging.
Incarnations of Immortality was better, but as previously mentioned, weird emphasis on weird sex.

Thanks, now I'm reminded which chunk of books goes first when culling my library.
 
The best thing about Xanth was that it was some weird alt-reality Florida. That's about the only thing about it that stuck out to me since I haven't read any since like junior high school. That, and the main female character was basically described as Barbie, and was about as engaging.
Incarnations of Immortality was better, but as previously mentioned, weird emphasis on weird sex.

Thanks, now I'm reminded which chunk of books goes first when culling my library.
It wasn't alt-reality Florida, it was supposedly real Florida, which just has magic around it that makes technology not work and prevents people from accurately remembering what it's like when they leave it. This is because a demon lost a game and has to sit under a rock in the middle of Florida for a gorillion years unless someone tags him out, in which case he'll destroy the Earth to get bonus points in said game.
TBH Xanth is a fucking riot even if you ignore all of the freaky sex maniac shit.
 
About halfway through the book this child prostitute starts a romantic and sexual relationship with a US senator. Anthony takes great pains to explain that this relationship between an adult and a child is a wonderful thing and that there's nothing wrong with it, that in fact it's evil society's fault that their love is illegal. He makes a point to stress that this pedophile politician is the only good and pure-hearted politician in America and God even comes along to promise that he's destined for heaven when he dies.

Well that explains why he was promoted to the level of being a new york times best seller.
 
I did find his books a bit weird, but I still enjoy his books though I didn't really finish the second one. I have to say the writing wasn't that bad. I thought it was good in HS. Which looking back on it, it made me realize that a few books were missing in the school's collection, in fact I was amazed the first book made it into the library to begin with
 
I did find his books a bit weird, but I still enjoy his books though I didn't really finish the second one. I have to say the writing wasn't that bad. I thought it was good in HS. Which looking back on it, it made me realize that a few books were missing in the school's collection, in fact I was amazed the first book made it into the library to begin with

You probably liked the Split Infinity series because he revealed that he's a horsefucker too.
 
I skipped over Piers Anthony during my classic SF phase, but I have to admit that there's some deranged shit in the SF/Fantasy genre in general. Like, let's be honest here, SF basically invented furries in the 1970s. Other than like, mythology and cave paintings, but its really not the same principle. Its sad that escapist fiction exists primarily because of the shit you want to escape, and it inevitably follows in behind you (heh). Sure, plenty of people can make light of the fact that they enjoy gay or BDSM themes or whatever deviant shit in stuff they read when they were young and impressionable, but then there are the cases like Anthony that take it way too far.

Personally I blame this shit on the editors who were more concerned with arbitrary things like the race or gender of the protagonist from a make-believe story than whether or not the person writing them was a damned lunatic. "Muh-Race" SJW crap is an epidemic right now and all, but they still had some really fucked up priorities back then.
 
You probably liked the Split Infinity series because he revealed that he's a horsefucker too.

Was still a good story, but yeah...fucking a robot and a unicorn. That was a bit odd, plus the whole naked serf society.
 
You probably liked the Split Infinity series because he revealed that he's a horsefucker too.
Is that the one where the same guy crosses between a modern and fantasy world? That series taught me the word 'juxtaposition' which is a great word.
 
Is that the one where the same guy crosses between a modern and fantasy world? That series taught me the word 'juxtaposition' which is a great word.

A weird modern world with naked fighting and a fantasy world where you fuck horses.
 
Like everyone else I haven't read Piers Anthony since being 11 or 12, last year I read the Incarnations #8 about Night and thought hmmm that seems pretty pedo-ish, but really didn't like it enough to explore more. Recently I had surgery and have been reading some stuff a friend gave me, one of which is the Battle Circle series and the themes of young girl sex and women's subservient nature came in to play. So I finally googled is Piers Anthony creepy and discovered I was not alone. Weird when something you loved makes you feel creeped out now. I was going to get a few PA books for my nephew who's just getting in to reading SF. Probably not now.
 
Like everyone else I haven't read Piers Anthony since being 11 or 12, last year I read the Incarnations #8 about Night and thought hmmm that seems pretty pedo-ish, but really didn't like it enough to explore more. Recently I had surgery and have been reading some stuff a friend gave me, one of which is the Battle Circle series and the themes of young girl sex and women's subservient nature came in to play. So I finally googled is Piers Anthony creepy and discovered I was not alone. Weird when something you loved makes you feel creeped out now. I was going to get a few PA books for my nephew who's just getting in to reading SF. Probably not now.
Get him some Orson Scott Card: all the naked boys wrestling in the shower should help him figure out any confusing feelings he may be having.
 
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