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Edward Caesar Sallow said:
should have taken Nuclear bombs and destroyed Moscow and other populated areas
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I cannot possibly pass up such an appropriate time to post this
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Snekposter said:
They only bled for that shit because Hitler pulled a stupid and decided to attack the guys sending him the grain, fuel, and other natural resources Germany needed. They were quite happy cooperating with Nazi Germany until then, not just in terms of trade but even military training.

And let's not get into that whole splitting Poland in two deal.
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I’ve become increasingly convinced Hitler was right to invade the USSR and his mistake was dividing himself instead of going just for Baku and letting the loss of oil decide things.

If I am wrong it’s probably because people talk up the USSR as destined for victory and that’s made me think less of them.
 
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Mussolini’s Merkin said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=FaL0zpTUxfciSorrow gives his $0.02. Basically calls Bo a retard and agreed with the ban, but not the duration of it. Swimmy shows up toward the end.
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I am disappointed in Donald J. Sorrows.
Like bro stand up for your friend and not even an "internet fweeends", but a guy he met IRL and calls an IRL friend specifically.
Don't act like you didn't say worse things, but then again, ISP isn't as (safe) edgy as he used to be and he even went back and unlisted/privated/deleted some of his early Millenium Dawn videos.
Its time for ISlovakProductions aka. Mountain General to steal all his e-fame.
 
Berrakh said:
I’ve become increasingly convinced Hitler was right to invade the USSR and his mistake was dividing himself instead of going just for Baku and letting the loss of oil decide things.

If I am wrong it’s probably because people talk up the USSR as destined for victory and that’s made me think less of them.
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The real mistake was the nigger of Gavrilo Princip succeeding in killing the Archduke plus later the Austrians pushing way too far with their demands against Serbia, the Serbs agreed to practically everything except handing partial control of their judicial system to the Austrians (allowing Austrians to take part in internal Serbian investigations), which was essentially becoming a puppet state and then also the Austrian losing decisively against Serbia in the early in the war, a much smaller nation, until the Germans took over command and the Bulgarians joined.

While Austria-Hungary would have eventually collapsed due ethnic tensions and devolved into a bunch of ethnic conflicts, it is unlikely that the socialists and communists would have found much support amongst these people as their revolution were nationalistic in nature and these movements were also hostile to communism.

And you wouldn't had a titanic scale industrial war where millions died with seemingly no end in sight, which really boosted the commies support across the globe, which also means that the numerous communist uprisings across the globe during the time period, in the later stage of the war and after it, either would have not occurred, would have fizzled out or would have been suppressed.

Meaning no German revolution, no revolutions in Hungary, no massive violence in Italy lasting a decade and while, in my opinion, the Russian revolution would have happened regardless of the war, given that there is no German support for Lenin, a more organized Russian government, a non-decimated army and more countries willing to directly intervene in any potential civil war, it is likely that the communist would have lost the civil war or maybe even the revolution could have been put down successfully.

TL:DR: It is all the fault of the balkan niggers.
 
Berrakh said:
I’ve become increasingly convinced Hitler was right to invade the USSR and his mistake was dividing himself instead of going just for Baku and letting the loss of oil decide things.

If I am wrong it’s probably because people talk up the USSR as destined for victory and that’s made me think less of them.
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Stalin did go into temporary shock when he heard of Barbarossa, but both were already pushing against the line agreed at the Nazi-Soviet Pact in terms of territories taken. Hitler was a gambler with extraordinary luck taking down a France that on paper (without considering such things as the refusal to use radios as they were insecure) was superior. Stalin was someone who carefully bided his time, a poker face, who waited for just the right opportunity and Hitler didn't really want the Soviet dictator to have the time given his sheer bounty of resources and manpower but still disordered by Soviet stupidities. Taking Moscow might've been okay, but Hitler couldn't and wouldn't seem to choose one thing or the other. The Germans still heavily relied on older methods like horses for logistics, had a fairly good oil resources with Romania and had a coal liquefaction industry for shortfalls. Decapitating the Soviet State by taking Moscow might've worked, but again couldn't make up his mind.
 
No. 7 cat said:
Stalin did go into temporary shock when he heard of Barbarossa, but both were already pushing against the line agreed at the Nazi-Soviet Pact in terms of territories taken. Hitler was a gambler with extraordinary luck taking down a France that on paper (without considering such things as the refusal to use radios as they were insecure) was superior. Stalin was someone who carefully bided his time, a poker face, who waited for just the right opportunity and Hitler didn't really want the Soviet dictator to have the time given his sheer bounty of resources and manpower but still disordered by Soviet stupidities. Taking Moscow might've been okay, but Hitler couldn't and wouldn't seem to choose one thing or the other. The Germans still heavily relied on older methods like horses for logistics, had a fairly good oil resources with Romania and had a coal liquefaction industry for shortfalls. Decapitating the Soviet State by taking Moscow might've worked, but again couldn't make up his mind.
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My thinking too. It’s also like World War I— the Germans doing something “rash” because they know another power will just join against them anyway. In WWI it was crossing through Belgium which “provoked” Britain.
 
Rome's rightful successor said:
Bokoen1 lies in his Plebbit apology. He attempts to claim he didn't actually understand what "glassing" means despite in the video clearly using it in the correct context of nuclear weapons
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If he just used hoi4 lingo like "tac nuking" moscow or a more nuanced form of it he could've easily gotten away with it tbqh. Reminder even his playmates kept reminding him that he's going a bit too far and he instead doubled down on it.

Normally, HoItubers are a mixed, weird bunch, you've got outliers out there with RimmyDownunder and his Leon Degrelle controversy that got his grandma in the UK in trouble and old ISP being ISP as usual but Bo by far even by accident is the only one who said genocidal remarks so far
 
Stalin was expecting a war with Germany. The reason why USSR was caught so off-guard was that he (correctly) assumed that it would be a horrible idea for Hitler to invade, while Britain is still actively contesting Germany's western flank. In this context, lot of his decisions make perfect sense. British intelligence warning that Germany is planning an invasion? A fabrication to trick you into joining the war on their side. Soviet communications and logistics being a mess? Harder for any field commander to start a mutiny or support a coup.

WW2 was ultimately just a geopolitical conflict as any other. If there's one thing Hitler did wrong - he basically sperged out when it was clear he would lose, and provided the winning side with a post-hoc justification that turned it into a righteous crusade with a black-and-white "good guys" and the "bad guys."

Britain bankrupted itself, and USA sacrificed hundreds of thousands of young men, to give half of Europe to Stalin. At least nobody was forced to speak German, I guess.
 
Fabazon'_' said:
Twitch being Russia dickriders like usual.
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So if I was streaming and said that Israel should've been nuked and I get banned for it, would you call Twitch the Israel dickriders, despite sucking up to and platforming someone like Hasan Piker and his degenerate orbiters?
 
Berrakh said:
I’ve become increasingly convinced Hitler was right to invade the USSR and his mistake was dividing himself instead of going just for Baku and letting the loss of oil decide things.

If I am wrong it’s probably because people talk up the USSR as destined for victory and that’s made me think less of them.
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It doesnt really matter. The USSR would have won in the end, American aid could easily supply them continuely, oil in Baku would have been destroyed entirely and iirc the Germans expected 5 to 6 month repairs just for the oil rigs they did capture. This also doesnt take in considerstion refinement issues, and shipping the oil itself. This ignores the supply complications the Germans were facing, not to mention large scale partisan tactics. Both sides were struggling to raise manpower by the time of 42 to 43 (things would only get worse for the Soviets for a variety of reasons AND the germans too). The USSR was destined to win because it was near fully supplied in supplemnetal material by the allies (basically the us)
The USSR, to some degree, was lucky they had such supporters with the mass amounts of lend lease that let them focus on military production almost exclusively. Also Germany would have been nuked first, see the Germany first policy. The only way the USSR doesnt win is a few ways that go into some pretty cope or alternative history. Such as; the US siding with Germany. Germany somehow managing no war against France or Britain, Germany somehow going back on its racial superiority and working with Ukranians, Belarusian and other Slavic people who hated russians. This is itnoring as well that the German economy wasnt even made for "totalen krieg" until way too late in the war with steel production *growing* significantly when taking over by Speer (directly increase war production for quite literally everything, its not a perfect example but I dont remmeber everything thwt increased in production) There's a lot to look into with the germany economy and its insufficiency.

The war was ultimately lost for the Germans the moment they declared war, at least on a side of logistics, productivity, and acess to resources. "Superior will" cant win you a battle if you have no oil, steel, or food.
 
Berrakh said:
I’ve become increasingly convinced Hitler was right to invade the USSR
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Both the Russians and the Germans were expecting war and preparing for it. I don't know where this idea that Soviets were taken unawares comes from. They needed more time and were actively building forces when the invasion started, but that's not the same thing as being surprised. Read David Glantz for more. The Germans lost the war the day that the US committed itself to sending materials to the Soviets. Suddenly, they could replenish material losses in a way that Germans could not. Hell, they probably lost a decade earlier when American advisors were sent to the Soviet Union to help build easily convertible military factories, which I find very suspicious. <Assuming the same political situation, the American military would have started slinging N BOMBs into European Medieval Old Towns the moment they were available. Doubt that one faggot would have been crying if that was the case.

Unrelated but it's funny to read WW2 German sources talking about the UK. They pretty accurately predicted its fate as a raped and empireless AIDs patient.
 
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