Oregon Gas Crisis - Starting 2018 the right way

The state of Oregon has joined 48 other states in the union to allow “self-service” gas stations, meaning you can now pump your own gas as opposed to a “full-service” station where an employee does it for you.
New Jersey is now the only state to not allow self-service at all.


https://www.boredpanda.com/pump-your-own-gas-stations-laws-oregon/

This comment raises more questions, like “how did you almost die?”

The machines are taking jobs once again. I don’t remember fucking up pumping gas so badly I smell like it.

You wearing a skirt in winter in Oregon is on you, don’t blame the gas.

“cooties”

“transients”

Job opportunities await!

Edit: This was moved from it’s original forum Salt Mine to Articles and Happenings so I edited the title.

 

[polonium]

I'm not sure I'd want some retard that can only get a job working a petrol pump to be touching my car though.

 

[Dysnomia]

We had an electrician at work who filled our petrol V6 Hilux with diesel. He said he was having trouble filling it because the nozzle didn't fit so he just dribbled it in slowly. You also have to lift up a flap that says DIESEL to get to the pump handle, which is a completely different colour (black) to the normal petrol hoses (green or red) in most filling stations around here, so unfortunately no matter how carefully you design something, an idiot will find a way.

What happens if you accidentally fill the tank with diesel when you aren't supposed to? Do you need major repairs?

I'd think if the nozzle doesn't fit you'd realise that something is wrong. Especially if the flap says diesel. Must suck if you are illiterate.

 

[polonium]

What happens if you accidentally fill the tank with diesel when you aren't supposed to? Do you need major repairs?

I'd think if the nozzle doesn't fit you'd realise that something is wrong. Especially if the flap says diesel. Must suck if you are illiterate.

If you just fill the tank you can drain it, flush it, fill with the correct fuel and you're good. If you run the engine, then you have to clean and flush the whole fuel system which is much more expensive. I'll give you two guesses what this genius did.
It was actually when the engine stopped running that tipped him off that he might have put the wrong fuel in.

Just returning to the original post in the thread, you can see some real limousine-liberal thought processes at work. "Those poor barely-functioning tards need a job! Besides I don't want to do the icky, dirty task of filling my car up"
So it sounds all egalitarian and laudable (even if economically illiterate) until you read on and find that they actually think the task of putting a nozzle into a hole is beneath them.

 

[Goofy Logic]

Only if the state lets them. State law is superior to municipal law, and if municipal law contradicts it, state law is what counts. State governments are considered unitary, i.e. the municipality is just a part of the state. The state can do anything up to and including outright abolishing municipalities entirely.

In this case, has the state abolished the part that says an attendant has to pump or did they pass a law saying self-serve must be there? If it's the former, a city bylaw would be legal, as was the case with the two Canadian cities i mentioned: The province said self-serve was legal, and the fire chief in Richmond cited safety concerns while Coquitlam, along with a few other towns in reaction to the menace of self-serve, placed the bylaw to preserve employment. Since there was nothing saying gas stations must be self serve, the bylaws were legal.

What happens if you accidentally fill the tank with diesel when you aren't supposed to? Do you need major repairs?

Your car won't start or run really crappy - diesel needs hotter temperatures to ignite compared to gas. The repair is to drain the diesel from the fuel tank and the lines.

 

[AnOminous]

In this case, has the state abolished the part that says an attendant has to pump or did they pass a law saying self-serve must be there?

They said that retailers in counties under a population of 40,000 are allowed to be self-serve. That would seem to mean that refusing to allow them to do what the state law explicitly says they're allowed to do would be contradicting that. I've just read the news stories, though, not the actual law.

 

[polonium]

Your car won't start or run really crappy - diesel needs hotter temperatures to ignite compared to gas. The repair is to drain the diesel from the fuel tank and the lines.

Diesel needs to be vapourised into much smaller drops if you want to ignite it at the same pressure as petrol, in a diesel engine they rely on really high compression to combust the fuel. That's why putting petrol in a diesel engine can make it just fucking explode.

 

[Medicated]

Any salt from the gas station minimum wage slaves who are afraid of losing their employment now?

Why do you think so many girls became camwhores after they made self service check outs.

 

[Bork Laser]

Take the "keep forcing people to pay attendants to pump gas" argument and generalize it to all retail service and you're pre-prepped for most political arguments over the next 20 years.

You think blatant protectionism for gas attendants is bad, just wait until McDonalds decides to automate 95% of their restaurants. Bills to protect precious retail are going to put nonsense like Oregon's ongoing argument whether their local populace can pump their own gas (an argument I'm not certain the right side won, going by my experience with your average Portlander) to shame.

TBH people like this are why not a lot stores are more self automated. It's old and middle age people who don't trust them dang ol computers or are too lazy to do shit themselves. They tried to self automate a CVS by my job, only having one person at a register for cigarettes and people reeed so bad it was in the local news paper.

 

[thismanlies]

Isn't Oregon on the west coast? That frightens me. Especially because they'd be our first line of defense from an invasion.

 

[XYZpdq]

Both types of people live in harmony and everyone is happy.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

As for self checkout, I don't think I've ever used a self checkout that had scanners that worked well, or didn't yell at me because the bag was in the wrong spot, or whatever.

So fuck self checkout.
Until there's a discount for doing it myself I'm going to a clerk.

 

[Hiragana]

I thought attendants filling your gas was something that only existed in grainy, old movies.

Just stunned in disbelief.

 

[AnOminous]

I thought attendants filling your gas was something that only existed in grainy, old movies.

Just stunned in disbelief.

There was one full-service place I knew of that was still in business until a couple years ago. It was a mechanic's shop with an attached gas station run by an old dude who had been doing it for 50 years. When he retired, it went out of business.

 

[Echo_Ender]

Up until just a few years ago in the US Midwest was a "no frills" gas chain called "Swifty" and their whole shtick was an attendant dressed in a "old fashioned" mechanics jump suit and armed with a chrome hip coin changer (like it was still nineteen tickety-2 and you could fill up your Ford for $0.75), who pumped the gas for people, but if you pulled up to one of the "self serve" and then paid in cash you'd save like $0.05 per gallon.
When the only owner of the company died, and it was revealed how much cash the company was hemorrhaging to keep going with the old timey practice he'd had going for 40 years, the entire chain went out of business startlingly fast. Likely literally days.

Yeah, it was pretty infamous throughout the midwest.

The attendants were either some of the most surly, escaped-convict-looking motherfuckers you'd ever meet or constantly terrified-of-being-robbed teenagers. Either way they hated their jobs.

They gave you 5 cents off per gallon if you paid in cash (So the attendantd wouldn't run out of cash). And that's where the trouble started.

Robberies were super common because everyone knew the attendants carried cash. So they started making sure Attendants carried no more than $100 at a time, which meant that every few customers, they had to unlock their kiosk, go inside, re-lock the kiosk, unlock a safe, put tbe money in the safe, re-lock the safe, then unlock, leave, and re-lock the kiosk.

So service slowed to a fucking crawl. Even if you pumped gas yourself, if you wanted to pay cash, you'd usually have to wait for the attendant to finish pumping gas and/or depositing cash before you could pay and leave.

It was awful and as soon as the owner died, literally every Swifty I had ever saw was closed within a week. Most are Speedways or Marathons now.


EDIT: According to Google, there are a few left, but I'm pretty sure they're independently owned now and probably ditched the "Full-Service" thing.

Apparently this was a big deal and they closed close to 300 stores pretty much overnight with no warning:

http://www.heraldbulletin.com/news/...cle_adb5d74f-7d2a-59b5-a5df-d618d90d0455.html

 

[Caesare]

I thought attendants filling your gas was something that only existed in grainy, old movies.

Just stunned in disbelief.

I know of two that that are still in operation. Both are in a nice area where quite few older people live, and they are actual service stations, as in they do work on and maintain cars.

 

[Cosmos]

Wait, there are really people who can’t pump their own gas?? What the fuck?

If you’re honestly scared of getting injured by a gas pump you probably deserve to be set on fire tbh

 

[heathercho]

A lot of petrol stations in Tokyo will have the attendants direct you back into the flow of traffic as well as pump gas and get other things you need if you pay for full service (clean your ashtray, bring you stock to purchase from inside, clean windows etc) . It's noisy but always seems helpful and as an observance, a lot of people use it.

But I'm pretty sure most of the people who use the service know how to pump gas and pull back into traffic themselves if need be. Judging by the reeing, I wouldn't be so sure about people in Oregon. Maybe cars should be put on rails there too?

 

[January Cyst]

How to create more jobs: Make more things full-service by law. You just walk around the supermarket and point at the item until an attendant puts it in your cart. You get an attendant to bring you clothes instead of walking around a clothes shop. Instead of reading the newspaper, an attendant just reads it to you. Instead of fucking your wife, an attendant fucks her for you.

You can thank me later, Trump.

We already have that and it's called e-commerce.
Including the fucking if you include craigslist hookers.

 

[Male Idiot]

Actually we have attendants here in Eastern Europe, but they usually serve a different purpose.

While they can pump gas if you are feeling lazy, their main job is offering to wash your car and check for the tyre gas pressure for around 2 dollars.

Its not a good 10-20 dollar facility wash, but if you are a worker or a farmer and just want to see out of your windscreen without having to watch for the mud splatches, it is a nice deal.

If they get one people to accept this offer every hour they work, they can boost their salary by 50%.

I'm not saying they never pump gas, but its a very rare occasion. Like when daddy screws the gas tank lid shut and mommy is too weak to open it, and she asks the station man to try and loosen the metal cap.

 

[Slamerella]

The West seems to have a thing for being on fire.

 

[Racist Trash]

Guys help I just went to Oregon and somehow forgot how to pump gas, I am now covered in fuel and there are hundreds of Oregoners running around with open flames.