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I know Luffy asked Rayleigh not to spoil the One Piece, but he could've mentioned something about the immortal, regenerating God's Knights.
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Its nice to see her finally have a fight where she can believably lose, just took a nigh immortal opponent to do it.
Which comes back again to just how OP her Devil Fruit is and always was much to her detriment as a character. Because Oda has really struggled to put her in fights due to how quickly she could win against most opponents, and in a Shonen fights are where characters are supposed to shine the most.
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It does have weaknesses though. If her DF limps get hurt, so will her real ones. It is a huge risk. You can make her opponents she would struggle with.
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Just put her in fights with people that use anything sharp. If the antagonists are actively trying all her hands are skewered or slashed up within seconds.
The fact it took Oda this long to do that says a lot.
You can, but Oda has really dropped the ball in that regard and there really is no denying that.
Despite being around for so long, she easily has the least notable one v one fights of all the straw hats (I believe she only has two notable one v ones). Even Jinbe who has only been with the crew for a relatively short amount of time has more notable one v ones than her.
I am not saying it can't be done, but her ability is either pretty ridiculous or useless. She either ends most fights immediately or she can't win them at all which Oda doesn't really know how to work around.
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This. I think Haki is the way to go with her. Give her the ability to damage strong people so that she is never useless. Will she be able to bring down someone like Kaidou? No, but she could take an elite fighter down. As the series progressed and fighters that could either tank her abilities or outright overpower her made an appearance, she should have been powerscaled. Her ability is OP only if you do not know how to deal with it. She is still just flesh and bone. She can be burned, frozen, electrocuted, injured, cursed or whatever. We saw that in Film Z.
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Robin's fruit was always a fuck up. That we haven't seen an instant clutch in decades till she conveniently has an immortal in front speaks volumes.
It's also the reason why she does the huge limbs thing and uses fish man karate, to kind of fake sell it as a power up that she is attacking with giant limbs powered by fishman techniques.
But the ol "grab Pell, instafuck him up" has always been her most effective play outside of logias.
I get it, it happens and you have to dance around it. Law was doing whatever the fuck he wanted till they arrived in Dressrosa and suddenly his fruit has a "stamina limit".
But yes, it was awesome seeing Robin have a proper fight for once.
And Gaban knows how to do a mean entrance, Sommers reaction is also quite telling. Hoping for a flashback of God's Valley now.
It's also the reason why she does the huge limbs thing and uses fish man karate, to kind of fake sell it as a power up that she is attacking with giant limbs powered by fishman techniques.
But the ol "grab Pell, instafuck him up" has always been her most effective play outside of logias.
I get it, it happens and you have to dance around it. Law was doing whatever the fuck he wanted till they arrived in Dressrosa and suddenly his fruit has a "stamina limit".
But yes, it was awesome seeing Robin have a proper fight for once.
And Gaban knows how to do a mean entrance, Sommers reaction is also quite telling. Hoping for a flashback of God's Valley now.
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I don’t think it was sudden. Oda does this a lot introduces a character by putting them against people vastly below them and then it takes an Arc or two till the go up against someone on their level and it turns out there was always a limit they just had not hit it yet.
Luffy had G4 from the timeskip and it took till Doffy for him to need to use it and for us to learn Limits.
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While the setup is right, the details are just nitpicking (Usopp asked about the treasure, but Luffy shut him down because he felt that knowing if there was a treasure at the end of the line would take the fun out of it for him.)
Having said that, I don’t think Luffy would be told about the God’s Knights. Not only was that no a thing to be worried about during the scene you mentioned, it’s also bigger meta stuff where Oda has a scheme of “Luffy fulfills prophecies and changes the world while being in a perpetual state of blissful ignorance. Whether it’s because of that ignorance or despite said ignorance is another story”. We already got a mention of how Gunko fears Nika (which is just Luffy in Gear 5).
I have to wonder how much of this is stalling before Luffy shows up. Because 1. As it stands the God’s Knights still have everything where they can declare victory because the order was given to burn everything down (another Ohara, yay!), while Gunko has taken down all the Straw Hats she’s faced and can just start dropping kids to their deaths and 2. Luffy is in that point of the arc where the question is “Suprisingly good judge of moral character, or complete idiot?” And again, gotta keep Luffy occupied so he doesn’t know about the bigger things he’s the key to because he’s at the center of all of it.
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Oda is on record saying that he removes the heavy hitters, Luffy specifically, so everyone else can look like they do things.
But as per usual, God Knights are as numbered as Luffy’s full crew, if Oda was planning on them losing he would have brought them all in and not removed Luffy et al
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It's all handled very basic.
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My whole thing about it is that Oda made a whole thing about Luffy arguing with a bunch of people about Loki with his usual stubbornness to keep him occupied. Here’s hoping Oda hasn’t written himself into a corner like Masashi Kishimoto did. Multiple times.
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Oda does not seem like the kind that does not allow for ways out nor does he put ideas that do not fit in the story.
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Well, I can’t think of another time before this where it seemed like the heroes were capital F fucked and the villains could just light up the victory cigars with how things are going.
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Disagree. Every villain ever looks OP at the start of the fight. Give it time.
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this just shows how badly any strawhat with a devil fruit that can be awakened needs it to be awakened as soon as possible. for robin for example i always thought her awakened power would just get rid of the negatives to her power or maybe just give her the power to control peoples limbs and manipulate them like she would her own. so for example she could make a guys hands stop working or make extra ones appear on their body which she controls but if hurt damage the other person instead of herself.
that being said i also am starting to wonder. the seraphim were immortal too right? if so what if the seraphim are operating on something similar to the gods knights entirely on accident. like vegapunk just ended up inventing something similar and the gods knights are simply super powered up clones of past of present figures. who also happen to have devil fruit powers. usopp or somebody needs to hurry up and shoot one of them with a bubble gun to see what happens.
that being said i also am starting to wonder. the seraphim were immortal too right? if so what if the seraphim are operating on something similar to the gods knights entirely on accident. like vegapunk just ended up inventing something similar and the gods knights are simply super powered up clones of past of present figures. who also happen to have devil fruit powers. usopp or somebody needs to hurry up and shoot one of them with a bubble gun to see what happens.
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I assume that her awakening will take the form of greater variety in the forms of her limps. Like her devil form but better.
No, just very durable. Their Lunarian genes make them super durable while they are on fire and super fast when not on fire.
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ok thats right i forgot about the lunarian part. either way i find it very interesting how we have seen multiple variations of groups of seemingly unstoppable enemies as far back as germa 66 if not even further depending on how you would classify fishmen and cipher pol agents. its like oda has been building up to the gods knights the whole time as the absolute ultimate challenge for anyone to face.
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It is like artificial convergent evolution. Many scientists reached similar powersets. I assume that the WG monopolized the technology of the Ancient Kingdom and thus has the best form of those powers.