One Piece - I'm Gonna Be the Pirate King!

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Just think, 1000+ Chapters ago..Our Boys Coby and Helpemmo were weak shitheads who couldn't do shit on their own..now they tanking Canon balls and smashing shit on Par with motherfucking Zoro*.

:semperfidelis:


*Yeah Zoro Slashed up Picca with zero effort and this is taking Coby his full power, but consider that Coby is matching Zoro AT ALL.
 
Just think, 1000+ Chapters ago..Our Boys Coby and Helpemmo were weak shitheads who couldn't do shit on their own..now they tanking Canon balls and smashing shit on Par with motherfucking Zoro*.

:semperfidelis:


*Yeah Zoro Slashed up Picca with zero effort and this is taking Coby his full power, but consider that Coby is matching Zoro AT ALL.
It's arguably a positive message from One Piece. If you put the hard work in you can become something astonishing. While there are still seemingly caps in place (if you don't have Conqueror's Haki you can't learn if for example) anyone can become a superhuman and beat up Devil Fruit users if they really want to.

The big thing is that it is still hard to beat the system, especially if you let your desire for satisfaction come first. Law lined up a good way of fucking Don Flamingo but just had to see his victory in person rather than reading "one of the 7 Warlords beaten to death by Kaido" in the paper for example.
 
It's arguably a positive message from One Piece. If you put the hard work in you can become something astonishing.
Wasn't this supposed to be the intended message of Naruto? At least before it turned out everyone was strong because they had good genetics or something?
The big thing is that it is still hard to beat the system, especially if you let your desire for satisfaction come first. Law lined up a good way of fucking Don Flamingo but just had to see his victory in person rather than reading "one of the 7 Warlords beaten to death by Kaido" in the paper for example.
With the way the story played out I don't think it would've ever panned out the way Law thought it would. For starters, even if he was somehow able to account for CP0 fucking with the flow of information (at Doflamingo's request), I doubt the Navy would be dispatched after him. More likely, the World Government would just kick Dressrosa out rather than have a member-nation led by a wanted pirate. And as we saw during Wano, the Navy give all of two shits about WG-affiliated islands (unless a more corrupt officer takes an interest of course)..

Plus, Kaido's attempt to retrieve Doflamingo from Navy custody via Jack implies that Law's belief that Kaido would eliminate him for his failure is incorrect (which is more or less confirmed in Wano) since Kaido pretty much lets his crew do whatever they want and if you get to the top ranks by being fucking strong like he wants he'll have your back.

Had Doflamingo been featured in Wano (as he was originally set up to be) I bet he would've definitely thrown this in Law's face. Now that I think about it, Law's finishers against Big Mom (the Shock Wille and the Silence move) were probably holdovers from that version of the Wano story.
 
Wasn't this supposed to be the intended message of Naruto? At least before it turned out everyone was strong because they had good genetics or something?
Yeah, that one kind of went by the wayside as a message.
With the way the story played out I don't think it would've ever panned out the way Law thought it would. For starters, even if he was somehow able to account for CP0 fucking with the flow of information (at Doflamingo's request), I doubt the Navy would be dispatched after him. More likely, the World Government would just kick Dressrosa out rather than have a member-nation led by a wanted pirate. And as we saw during Wano, the Navy give all of two shits about WG-affiliated islands (unless a more corrupt officer takes an interest of course)..

Plus, Kaido's attempt to retrieve Doflamingo from Navy custody via Jack implies that Law's belief that Kaido would eliminate him for his failure is incorrect (which is more or less confirmed in Wano) since Kaido pretty much lets his crew do whatever they want and if you get to the top ranks by being fucking strong like he wants he'll have your back.

Had Doflamingo been featured in Wano (as he was originally set up to be) I bet he would've definitely thrown this in Law's face. Now that I think about it, Law's finishers against Big Mom (the Shock Wille and the Silence move) were probably holdovers from that version of the Wano story.
True, I'd forgotten some of those.
Jack might have been retrieving him because Kaido wanted to express his displeasure in person. The CP0 interaction was a major factor though and I would have expected Law to be more cautious. He got a bit too eager with his end game in sight.
 
Jack might have been retrieving him because Kaido wanted to express his displeasure in person. The CP0 interaction was a major factor though and I would have expected Law to be more cautious. He got a bit too eager with his end game in sight.
But how far would that displeasure have gone? Kaido was arrogant but he wasn't delusional.
-When he thought there were rebels at Kuri Castle he elected to obliterate it while he was in the area.
-He had Kid imprisoned at Kuri and recognized that Kid had Supreme King Haki; Kid didn't do shit until after had Luffy had gotten there and Raizo infiltrated so there was no reason for him to think his usual strategy of "break them until loyal" wouldn't work.
-He knew Orochi wasn't worth a shit and got rid of him once it became apparent his spy didn't have any worthwhile information (anything Oden learned at the final island) and that Big Mom was no longer in competition, but cooperation with him.
-Doflamingo was able to use his powers to bring a whole kingdom to heel overnight. His being at Wano act 3 would've completely negated Tama's presence there because he could take control of every Gifter (whether or not they were under Tama's influence) because they sucked even with their powers and sicced them on the raiding party. And that might have made the Ice Oni an even bigger problem than they were.

And yes, Law's quest for vengeance made him an idiot. Had he actually been able to see the bigger picture (not Doflamingo as the endgame but Kaido's operation as the greater scheme of which Doffy was only a piece of) he might have thought it through a little more. Then again, Doflamingo was pretty much the go-to guy for the black market, so Law probably thought Kaido was just a client that had more power than Doflamingo's op could deal with should things go sour, as opposed to the de-facto Lead Performer of the Animal Kingdom Pirates that he actually was.
 
-Doflamingo was able to use his powers to bring a whole kingdom to heel overnight. His being at Wano act 3 would've completely negated Tama's presence there because he could take control of every Gifter (whether or not they were under Tama's influence) because they sucked even with their powers and sicced them on the raiding party. And that might have made the Ice Oni an even bigger problem than they were.
I think you might be overstating Don Flamingo's ability there. While he did puppet the King and a number of soldiers in his takeover he used them to attack the people so he could come in as the saviour which is how he took over Dressrosa. That's a fairly different scenario to being able to physically control every single person in the kingdom something he probably would have done when his own country was invaded.
 
I think you might be overstating Don Flamingo's ability there. While he did puppet the King and a number of soldiers in his takeover he used them to attack the people so he could come in as the saviour which is how he took over Dressrosa. That's a fairly different scenario to being able to physically control every single person in the kingdom something he probably would have done when his own country was invaded.
Remember, he started controlling people again after he set the Birdcage up once Sugar was knocked out and the toys she changed reverted to people and everyone got their memories back, so technically he did do that once his country got invaded. At that point though, it was a Battle Royale that he assumed in which human nature would further play into his favor.

Kaido's army was repeatedly stated to have an estimated 500+ Zoan Devil Fruit users and not all of them were at the Golden Festival (Holdem was noticeably absent, and Babanuki was still in Udon) and quite a few of them were taken out by the raiding party before the raid actually began in earnest. Plus, not all of everyone present could've been commanded by kibi dangos Tama pulled out of her cheek. It wouldn't have been that difficult (or different) for Doflamingo to pull the strings of the suddenly rebellious Gifters and make them do what they were supposed to be doing.
 
Remember, he started controlling people again after he set the Birdcage up once Sugar was knocked out and the toys she changed reverted to people and everyone got their memories back, so technically he did do that once his country got invaded. At that point though, it was a Battle Royale that he assumed in which human nature would further play into his favor.

Kaido's army was repeatedly stated to have an estimated 500+ Zoan Devil Fruit users and not all of them were at the Golden Festival (Holdem was noticeably absent, and Babanuki was still in Udon) and quite a few of them were taken out by the raiding party before the raid actually began in earnest. Plus, not all of everyone present could've been commanded by kibi dangos Tama pulled out of her cheek. It wouldn't have been that difficult (or different) for Doflamingo to pull the strings of the suddenly rebellious Gifters and make them do what they were supposed to be doing.
And I said he was not controlling everyone in the kingdom with his devil fruit which never happened, technically or otherwise. He did decide to do some puppeting again during the Birdcage, the prominent one being trying to get Rebecca to murder her sister because Don Flamingo seems unable to see an opportunity to torture people and pass up. However the only large scale ones was targeting a number of people during the Birdcage and the original kingdom invasion. I don't think we even got numbers on the royal guards when he did the initial work with them and the king which is where we've seen the most at any one time. So we've seen him handle what, a couple of dozen people at once? Fifty maybe when he was targeting random marines and civilians during the Birdcage since presumably there were others off panel?

Inferring that because he can casually control some, by One Piece's standards, normal humans and not in any ludicrous numbers either means he can just as easily casually control maybe a couple of hundred Zoan users is a bit of leap.
 
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Yeah, that one kind of went by the wayside as a message.
Yes and no.

Naruto was technically handed quite a pile of potential gifts, but it was his own work that let him master them.

*Man who had a cyborg's balls almost yanked off says Netflix's work is not fit for human consumption*
Man who made us cry over a fucking boat thinks Netflix's work is too much suffering for Humanity.
 
That was such an odd announcement, but I guess it's a bit soon to think about a proper 5th game.
5th Gear Luffy will probably be fun to use, along with Uta, Young Garp, and Coby.
I guess? I dunno it's strange that they announce a DLC wave when the game came out so long ago.

Gear 5 Hype is real.

Edit : Also is that last Silhouette Gurcierna? OH SHIT NO THEY DATAMINED IT THATS FUCKING ROGER
PLAYABLE GOL ROGER PLAYABLE GOL ROGER
 
Speaking of games, I think everyone should know that this existed:
 
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