One Piece - I'm Gonna Be the Pirate King!

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Akumaten said:

WHAT? THAT'S BULLSHIT! They couldn't make her a lookout with her eyesight?
What a way to ruin my day.
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Her unique fighting style that didn't rely on a DF, her drama and past with Pedro, and her natural chemistry with the crew (and how well Pedro blended with them too by extension) won the character over for me despite my dislike of the monster girl trend, and she added a nice bit of visual diversity (the real kind) by potentially giving Luffy three nonhuman members. When compared to Carrot, Yamato just struck me as dull both visually and character-wise, and it feels like she's just there for the sake of being there. It doesn't help that she was only added in near the end of the arc a bit after the Onigashima invasion started.
 
What I find the most confusing about Carrot’s scene is the mentions of Pedro as the explanation for making her the new ruler. Pedro’s will/dream didn’t really have anything to do with becoming the ruler of Zou, and some of the actions he takes for the sake of his dream run opposite with being ruler. Seems to me it would make more sense to write Carrot out of the story by giving her Pedro’s old job as captain of the guardians, or having Carrot start a new generation of Nox Pirates in Pedro’s honor.
The Gangster Computer said:
When compared to Carrot, Yamato just struck me as dull both visually and character-wise, and it feels like she's just there for the sake of being there. It doesn't help that she was only added in near the end of the arc a bit after the Onigashima invasion started.
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Yamato being introduced part-way through Onigashima gets worse the closer you look into her. Based on the scrapped concept art that’s been released, Yamato was originally supposed to show up in at least Act 2. But given how that same concept art also paints the creative process behind Yamato as Oda taking a grab-bag of ideas, loading them into a shotgun, and shatter-blasting the whole mess at a wall, it seems like the main reason Yamato went unmentioned for so long was because Oda had absolutely no clue what her main purpose or role in the story would be, or even what the focus of her arc should be, so he put off introducing or mentioning her as long as humanly possible to buy himself time to figure those parts out. Which, given the end results, doesn’t feel like he ever did.

What’s most baffling about Yamato is the amount of distance that has been placed between her and the Straw Hats. You maybe could argue that Yamato’s role in the raid was to serve as the stagehand/kuroko who takes care of all the behind-the-scenes tasks like the basement bombs, but that comes at the expense of her feeling weirdly disconnected from the overarching conflicts of the arc/climax because she doesn‘t build any connections to any if the major players outside of Momo so it has no benefit in that regard. Then even after the raid Oda continues to seemingly go out of his way to put distance between Yamato in the crew by skipping ahead several days at a time, and in most of those scenes she barely shows up or interacts with anybody, so her status with the main cast doesn‘t appear to have progressed at all from where she started despite being introduced over 70 chapters ago.

And it’s not like she would have nothing to add. She could’ve easily provided some unique insight during scene where the crew was talking about Pluton as Kaido’s kid given what Kaido said to her about Wano being special, but based on how this chapter plays out Yamato doesn’t appear to have any interest in being part of any of the planning sessions that directly effect the crew she supposedly wants to travel with.

If anything continuing to put off any it makes Yamato come across as though she isn‘t actually interested in building up a rapport with the other Straw Hats, or at worst that to her they’re simply a means to an end rather than friends. And trying to fit that in this late in the game means future arcs would be burdened with doing a bunch of character building that really has no excuse not being handled dozens of chapters ago.
Mr. 0 said:
-Raizo & Fukurokuju's backstory (Some fucked up incident involving Fukurokuju's sister that might tie in to why Raizo bailed on the Oniwabanshu per Oden flashback. Fukurokuju's head and earlobes got long becase he really fucking hated Raizo for this.)
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This is like the second or third time that someone’s body radically warping as a direct result of grief-induced rage has been brought up during Wano. Is this some physiological quirk of people with Wano ancestry?
 
One Man Bland said:
What I find the most confusing about Carrot’s scene is the mentions of Pedro as the explanation for making her the new ruler. Pedro’s will/dream didn’t really have anything to do with becoming the ruler of Zou, and some of the actions he takes for the sake of his dream run opposite with being ruler. Seems to me it would make more sense to write Carrot out of the story by giving her Pedro’s old job as captain of the guardians, or having Carrot start a new generation of Nox Pirates in Pedro’s honor.

Yamato being introduced part-way through Onigashima gets worse the closer you look into her. Based on the scrapped concept art that’s been released, Yamato was originally supposed to show up in at least Act 2. But given how that same concept art also paints the creative process behind Yamato as Oda taking a grab-bag of ideas, loading them into a shotgun, and shatter-blasting the whole mess at a wall, it seems like the main reason Yamato went unmentioned for so long was because Oda had absolutely no clue what her main purpose or role in the story would be, or even what the focus of her arc should be, so he put off introducing or mentioning her as long as humanly possible to buy himself time to figure those parts out. Which, given the end results, doesn’t feel like he ever did.

What’s most baffling about Yamato is the amount of distance that has been placed between her and the Straw Hats. You maybe could argue that Yamato’s role in the raid was to serve as the stagehand/kuroko who takes care of all the behind-the-scenes tasks like the basement bombs, but that comes at the expense of her feeling weirdly disconnected from the overarching conflicts of the arc/climax because she doesn‘t build any connections to any if the major players outside of Momo so it has no benefit in that regard. Then even after the raid Oda continues to seemingly go out of his way to put distance between Yamato in the crew by skipping ahead several days at a time, and in most of those scenes she barely shows up or interacts with anybody, so her status with the main cast doesn‘t appear to have progressed at all from where she started despite being introduced over 70 chapters ago.

And it’s not like she would have nothing to add. She could’ve easily provided some unique insight during scene where the crew was talking about Pluton as Kaido’s kid given what Kaido said to her about Wano being special, but based on how this chapter plays out Yamato doesn’t appear to have any interest in being part of any of the planning sessions that directly effect the crew she supposedly wants to travel with.

If anything continuing to put off any it makes Yamato come across as though she isn‘t actually interested in building up a rapport with the other Straw Hats, or at worst that to her they’re simply a means to an end rather than friends. And trying to fit that in this late in the game means future arcs would be burdened with doing a bunch of character building that really has no excuse not being handled dozens of chapters ago.

This is like the second or third time that someone’s body radically warping as a direct result of grief-induced rage has been brought up during Wano. Is this some physiological quirk of people with Wano ancestry?
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Well put. It really did feel like Oda just had no idea what to do with the character or that she only exists as some sort of merchandising mandate. Another problem I had with this arc is that it felt like it had a severe character bloat problem that unlike Dressrosa, which seemed to at least give its large cast a decent level of balance, the even larger bloated cast of Wano don't really come off as memorable and some have the kind of presence that really wouldn't have made a difference if they existed or not, either for comedy or tragedy, just existing for filler and some just fading into the background because Oda didn't know what to do with them either. But even so, Yamato just being added in at the last minute with little interaction with the main cast and then expecting us to embrace her as a new crew member just feels so forced. Its like you said, it really does feel like Oda didn't know what else to do with her character and maybe others.

But-
On the bright side, at least Carrot looks disappointed in her newfound role as "non-gender conforming furfag king".
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So maybe there's a small chance she'll say "fuck your court" and run off.

Focken Kiwi said:
I wonder if that was Whitebeard's initial perspective of Oden.
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Both Oden and Yamato kind of struck me as mary stu/sues. At least Yamato's doing a decent job emulating him in that area.
 
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The Gangster Computer said:
But even so, Yamato just being added in at the last minute with little interaction with the main cast and then expecting us to embrace her as a new crew member just feels so forced. Its like you said, it really does feel like Oda didn't know what else to do with her character and maybe others.
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Which is baffling considering the setup for Yamato’s character. People were outlining ehat her character arc could be - learning she’s not Oden and developing alongside Momo, badic parallel stuff - since she showed up. We got nothing. Carrot also has setup that you can do with her. How Oda does not know what to do with them or in the case of Carrot get rid of her in a way that feels right is really surprising. Is not hard.
The Gangster Computer said:
Both Oden and Yamato kind of struck me as mary stu/sues. At least Yamato's doing a decent job emulating him in that area.
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At least Oden died as a result of being himself. Yamato can’t even do that. She is a terrible Oden.

You know something is wrong with the arc when Kaido was telling everyone they were lying to themselves and were weak and were making excuses and if they wanted to beat him they needed to stop that…and despite being beat…has yet to be proven wrong
 
One Man Bland said:
What I find the most confusing about Carrot’s scene is the mentions of Pedro as the explanation for making her the new ruler. Pedro’s will/dream didn’t really have anything to do with becoming the ruler of Zou, and some of the actions he takes for the sake of his dream run opposite with being ruler. Seems to me it would make more sense to write Carrot out of the story by giving her Pedro’s old job as captain of the guardians, or having Carrot start a new generation of Nox Pirates in Pedro’s honor.

Yamato being introduced part-way through Onigashima gets worse the closer you look into her. Based on the scrapped concept art that’s been released, Yamato was originally supposed to show up in at least Act 2. But given how that same concept art also paints the creative process behind Yamato as Oda taking a grab-bag of ideas, loading them into a shotgun, and shatter-blasting the whole mess at a wall, it seems like the main reason Yamato went unmentioned for so long was because Oda had absolutely no clue what her main purpose or role in the story would be, or even what the focus of her arc should be, so he put off introducing or mentioning her as long as humanly possible to buy himself time to figure those parts out. Which, given the end results, doesn’t feel like he ever did.

What’s most baffling about Yamato is the amount of distance that has been placed between her and the Straw Hats. You maybe could argue that Yamato’s role in the raid was to serve as the stagehand/kuroko who takes care of all the behind-the-scenes tasks like the basement bombs, but that comes at the expense of her feeling weirdly disconnected from the overarching conflicts of the arc/climax because she doesn‘t build any connections to any if the major players outside of Momo so it has no benefit in that regard. Then even after the raid Oda continues to seemingly go out of his way to put distance between Yamato in the crew by skipping ahead several days at a time, and in most of those scenes she barely shows up or interacts with anybody, so her status with the main cast doesn‘t appear to have progressed at all from where she started despite being introduced over 70 chapters ago.

And it’s not like she would have nothing to add. She could’ve easily provided some unique insight during scene where the crew was talking about Pluton as Kaido’s kid given what Kaido said to her about Wano being special, but based on how this chapter plays out Yamato doesn’t appear to have any interest in being part of any of the planning sessions that directly effect the crew she supposedly wants to travel with.

If anything continuing to put off any it makes Yamato come across as though she isn‘t actually interested in building up a rapport with the other Straw Hats, or at worst that to her they’re simply a means to an end rather than friends. And trying to fit that in this late in the game means future arcs would be burdened with doing a bunch of character building that really has no excuse not being handled dozens of chapters ago.

This is like the second or third time that someone’s body radically warping as a direct result of grief-induced rage has been brought up during Wano. Is this some physiological quirk of people with Wano ancestry?
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Yamato joining the Strawhats as a means to an end could be an interesting way to go with her, really.
Trying and failing to be Oden and only becoming that hero after embracing being a Strawhat, what have you.
 
Yeah, its way too soon to criticize Yamato's development when she's still at the very beginning of her character arc.

And despite all that, she still had more reason to join the crew than Franky. (I consider "I just want to" to be a good enough fucking reason, fyi)
 
I’ve been too busy to care about the Wano Epilogue since the dub has been whetting me in perfect ways. It’s all the way up to the reveal that Pudding is a traitor.

Funnily enough there’s no confirm they are going to Elbaf next. So where are they going then?
 
Lol Carrot simps BTFO'd.

I like her, she was a delight to have on board, but I honestly wasn't fully convinced she could've been a Straw Hat. Closest may be an honorary Straw Hat like with Vivi, but I couldn't really see her sticking around with the crew. She seems too free-spirited for the crew, oddly enough.

Also fuck Caribou, what a slimeball.
 
WHO IS THE MAN WITH FLAMES!? YOU SAID YOU'RE GOING TO END THIS IN 3 YEARS, BUT YOU'RE DROPPING THAT NOW, ODA?!

This man has no intention to end this series anytime soon, isn't he?
 
Rezza said:
WHO IS THE MAN WITH FLAMES!? YOU SAID YOU'RE GOING TO END THIS IN 3 YEARS, BUT YOU'RE DROPPING THAT NOW, ODA?!

This man has no intention to end this series anytime soon, isn't he?
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He probably took those 4 weeks off to make sure that exact scenario doesn't happen. He's getting up there in age and his habits throughout publication probably shaved a good few years from his life expectancy. The pacing of the chapters is probably going to speed the fuck up, even if we get another long arc like the last few.
Also where does the "3 years" thing come from? When Oda made that "5 years" comment he was referring to the treasure hunt, not the manga; we still have the final war to kick off once it's found.
 
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
Luffy gives no fucks about that shit.
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Every single time the actual background plot comes up Luffy glazes over and just hears the bits he bothers about.

Fairly decent one. For a rare change it's Law and Kidd who know something others don't. The Buggy crew continue to do well with the new bounty system both being an interesting choice and suggesting we are about to slip into a stage of primarily Marine rather than Pirate antagonists. The bounties were always interesting to see for new pirate foes but with the crew having gone through the Emperors I anticipated that happening less so Team Clown did something interesting there.
 
Stab You in the Back said:
Yeah, its way too soon to criticize Yamato's development when she's still at the very beginning of her character arc.

And despite all that, she still had more reason to join the crew than Franky. (I consider "I just want to" to be a good enough fucking reason, fyi)
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‘i want to build the greatest ship for the pirate king following in my mentors footsteps after an arc where the crew proves to me fundamentaly that that won’t lead to death and I am nor a monster’ is a better reason than ‘i just want to’ by a country mile.

Why is it too soon to criticise Yamato when all of her issues were centered around Wano and literally every other Strawhat managed to develop from where they started to crew member ready in 1 Arc?

‘I just want to’ would be a fine reason jf she’d actually developed. Like everyone else.

Buggy. So that Croc can use it to try and take on Blackbeard
 
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