One Piece - I'm Gonna Be the Pirate King!

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7 Grandad said:
Really? It’s not the ending date?
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We will learn about The One Piece, but we will very likely learn what it is before getting to it..mostly because we know "Paramount War 2: Nika Boogaloo" will occur when Luffy heads for the last Island and we as readers should probably know what is actually at stake for the world for the final battle.
 
Kari Kamiya said:
No, that was people reading into things wrong. Just because we find out about the One Piece doesn't mean it's the end of the story then and there. I believe we have at least another ten years at the rate things are going.
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Thank God, to think of one piece ending even then still seems too soon. It’s the one series I kind of want to actually last as long as the Simpsons since it’s somehow retained such a level of quality over the years (the manga obvs)
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
We will learn about The One Piece, but we will very likely learn what it is before getting to it..mostly because we know "Paramount War 2: Nika Boogaloo" will occur when Luffy heads for the last Island and we as readers should probably know what is actually at stake for the world for the final battle.
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I still wonder like everyone else what the one piece is. Do you think at this point it’ll be some actual treasure in the form of some final ponelgyph revealing the void century or do you think it’ll be some weapon in the form of a ship like Pluton? To me at this point it’s likely that it’s something to overthrow the world government more than anything.
 
Oda has confirmed it's a physical object, meaning it can only be a photograph of Joyboy pantsing Imu.
 
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
We will learn about The One Piece, but we will very likely learn what it is before getting to it..mostly because we know "Paramount War 2: Nika Boogaloo" will occur when Luffy heads for the last Island and we as readers should probably know what is actually at stake for the world for the final battle.
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If they do that, then Lodestar island will be the kicking-off point.

I still hold a better climax to the series is Luffy getting the One Piece and having to defend himself and his crew from the others trying to take it from him.
 
McMitch said:
If they do that, then Lodestar island will be the kicking-off point.

I still hold a better climax to the series is Luffy getting the One Piece and having to defend himself and his crew from the others trying to take it from him.
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The problem I have with that as a Climax is that we have seen the World Government go to insane extremes when it comes to The History of the World and Laugh Tale.

Until Roger got to Lodestar Laugh Tale's existence wasn't even known, Roger got to Lodestar and something there hinted at something past it but Roger had no way to actually advance until he met Oden who could read the Poneglyphs. Given that Zou could only be found with a Vivre Card it is very likely the World Government didn't even know there was a record of how to get to the Final Island until Gol did it.

Imu is absolutely scared shitless over what lies in Laugh Tale and it would be really out of character for them to not be spying on the New World going ons and have an emergency plan for when someone has all 4 Road Glyphs.
 
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
The problem I have with that as a Climax is that we have seen the World Government go to insane extremes when it comes to The History of the World and Laugh Tale.

Until Roger got to Lodestar Laugh Tale's existence wasn't even known, Roger got to Lodestar and something there hinted at something past it but Roger had no way to actually advance until he met Oden who could read the Poneglyphs. Given that Zou could only be found with a Vivre Card it is very likely the World Government didn't even know there was a record of how to get to the Final Island until Gol did it.

Imu is absolutely scared shitless over what lies in Laugh Tale and it would be really out of character for them to not be spying on the New World going ons and have an emergency plan for when someone has all 4 Road Glyphs.
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Right, it would be a war of extermination against all the pirate factions vying to gain control from Luffy, both vectors trying to do so before news gets out that the One Piece has been claimed (Big News Morgans for tenth Straw Hat).
 
McMitch said:
Right, it would be a war of extermination against all the pirate factions vying to gain control from Luffy, both vectors trying to do so before news gets out that the One Piece has been claimed (Big News Morgans for tenth Straw Hat).
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But why would The WG allow it to even get to that point, Given that just the existence of Ace at all scares them to the point that they are willing to go to a war with Whitebeard just to prevent that 1% chance that Ace might become the next Gol Roger I don't see why they wouldn't bring the hammer down on someone the moment someone shows up at Lodestar with all 4 Glyphs in tow.

I also think that word will get out that someone is heading there so ALL THE PIRATES that can will B line straight for Lodestar.
 
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
But why would The WG allow it to even get to that point,
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A lot has happened in direct conflict to the WG’s goals. From a storytelling perspective, this would be a moment of the plot being driven by the actions of the Straw Hats, rather than them reacting to the plot (a change Oda has spent the entire Emperors Saga enacting).

Honka Honka Burning Love said:
I also think that word will get out that someone is heading there so ALL THE PIRATES that can will B line straight for Lodestar.
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Yes, that is exactly what is going to happen. The Straw Hats will just have a head start.
 
McMitch said:
A lot has happened in direct conflict to the WG’s goals. From a storytelling perspective, this would be a moment of the plot being driven by the actions of the Straw Hats, rather than them reacting to the plot (a change Oda has spent the entire Emperors Saga enacting).
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I think the World Government's primary MO is to keep things as quiet as possible, If the World Government had gone after Luffy in a direct way sooner (I.E. Pre-Time Skip) it may have clued someone into The Gum Gum Fruit being more than what it seems.

Post Timeskip, Luffy is in the new world, is the WG going to outright invade a Yonko's Domain to take down Luffy? Unless one of the CP0 Agents are super strong and can take Luffy in a 1 on 1 I doubt a direct assassination is gonna work out well, and Remember.

The Balance of Powers benefits the World Government. Kaido, Big Mom and White Beard each having a Road Poneglyph keeps everything Yonko wise in check.

Yes, that is exactly what is going to happen. The Straw Hats will just have a head start.
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I think it depends on..where the last Road Poneglyph is and the situation in which Luffy finds himself getting it. Like I said I think the WG has a "Code Red GO NOW" plan that as soon as someone is known to have all 4 Road Glyphs they drop everything and they have Eternal Proses to everywhere. Really Luffy SHOULD have a head start but..One Piece has never really been good at..showing the actual travel that happens. Saturn and Kizaru just sort of..showed up at Egghead despite it being past Wano so it should be..somewhere in one of the Yonko's domain.
 
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
I think the World Government's primary MO is to keep things as quiet as possible, If the World Government had gone after Luffy in a direct way sooner (I.E. Pre-Time Skip) it may have clued someone into The Gum Gum Fruit being more than what it seems.
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I got the feeling that the WG has gone into "Crush all loose ends" mode at the moment. They tried to kill Sabo because he witnessed who the five elders really are (and also concucted a basic weapon testing) and now they want to kill their best researcher. Maybe the One Piece is actually the last recording of the Void Century because that is the thing that gets floated around so often as it was the catalyst that created the current WG and Marine.
 
Balr0g said:
Maybe the One Piece is actually the last recording of the Void Century because that is the thing that gets floated around so often as it was the catalyst that created the current WG and Marine.
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I think it has to be something a little more tangible than just the Information, The WG has such a military stranglehold on most of the planet that I don't think just the information about how Imu exists on it's own is so dangerous as to want to wipe out Gol's bloodline just on a chance they will reach Laugh Tale.
 
Laugh Tale would've been discovered by the World Government and destroyed if something about it wasn't elusive enough for everyone but those with the ability to read Poneglyphs. Imu most likely can read them, he just doesn't have the full information and apparently couldn't be arsed to look for them (unless the Road Poneglyphs were kept a secret). Think at this point, the WG practically boned themselves by firebombing Ohara instead of sending in spies to learn to read Poneglyphs or steal research (they would've been disposed of at the end anyway), or by not actively hunting down Poneglyphs to take back to Marie Geoise's vaults. If Robin learned about the Road Poneglyphs just through research, they could've found this out, too.

Whatever is on Laugh Tale, we'll probably laugh and go "Of COURSE that's what it is!" and then further call the WG a bunch of retards for not covering all their bases. There were 20 families who came together to form the WG, and you mean to tell me all 20 heads put together didn't carefully plan shit out to ensure the events of the Void Century doesn't ever happen again? Fucking lol.

Oh by the way, we're still missing five Historical Poneglyphs. I figured we'd know more about their locations/contents before we reach Laugh Tale unless one or more are waiting on the island.
 
Kari Kamiya said:
Laugh Tale would've been discovered by the World Government and destroyed if something about it wasn't elusive enough for everyone but those with the ability to read Poneglyphs.
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I would say that it being completely hidden was good enough for 800 years, and note that Imu Sneeding Lulusia was a recent development in capabilities thanks to Vegapunk. That was a weapons test that Saturn was worried would fail, and honestly I think Laugh Tale can't be destroyed anyways.

Kari Kamiya said:
(unless the Road Poneglyphs were kept a secret).
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It had to have been because one was in Wano and one was on Zou, the WG had no reason to think Laugh Tale was even reachable...or Existed at all.

Whatever is on Laugh Tale, we'll probably laugh and go "Of COURSE that's what it is!" and then further call the WG a bunch of retards for not covering all their bases.
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I think we will go "OF COURSE" and laugh because it is likely very dangerous to the WG..and a Giant Troll from Joyboy. It will read like Null's final message to the forum if he ever decided to shut it down.

Edit : yes..I legitimately think that the history of the world is finished with the sentence along the lines of "Imu is a Nigger Faggot..and will never be a real woman"
 
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
It had to have been because one was in Wano and one was on Zou, the WG had no reason to think Laugh Tale was even reachable...or Existed at all.
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It's likely, though someone had to have found out about it (Rocks, perhaps) to know that a map exists in parts. But it's not known if the Road Poneglyphs were made during or right as the Void Century was ending, though in saying that, I think it's likely they were among the last ones to be made.

It hit me this morning talking to my brothers about the Poneglyphs:
Imu and the Elders didn't know what happened to Lili until Cobra said there's no proof she ever returned to Alabasta, suggesting there is no actual grudge towards her--although the Nefertari family would've been wiped out if they had wanted to out of revenge. This would suggest that Lili betraying them or being ambushed/coerced into scattering the Poneglyphs before they would get to Mary Geoise was the very key into throwing off the WG's plan in keeping eternal rule, but who exactly would've known that except for Lili herself? She either foresaw danger in hiding the Poneglyphs, or someone else told her.

But also this may open up a possibility that if Lili actually lived to see old age and didn't die on her way back home, she may have remarried and had another kid. I remember hearing a theory that Luffy may be from royalty, if not Gol D. himself. And she was a "D" herself. It's quite possible "D"s were supposed to get wiped out as a result of the Void Century, though someone had survived, whether it's her or someone else.
 
Chapter 1103 and at least it gives me a hopeful feeling for the next chapter

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