KR North Korea Megathread - Dear Leader and his shenanigans

MOD NOTE:

There's so much news about North Korea right now and what Un is doing, I got a suggestion for a NK megathread, so here it is. Post the world's greatest nation's antics here. I'm merging a few of the more recent threads to continue discussion.

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https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/south-korea-planning-war-decapitation-132232777.html

South Korean President Moon Jae-in has pushed for a new plan for a rapid war with North Korea and an overhaul of the country's defense industry to overwhelm and crush the North's government, the South Korean newspaper The Chosun Ilbo reported Tuesday.

Moon took office in May promising to attempt to engage diplomatically with North Korea and seek peace, but in the months since, the North has provoked the international community with missile tests at a blistering pace.

For some time, South Korea has been training a "decapitation force," reportedly with the help of the US Navy's SEAL Team 6, but now an increasingly bold North Korea may demand quicker action.

South Korea's new plan identifies more than 1,000 targets for precision missile fires and sites for marines to drop in and quickly kill North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, the paper reported.

The plan represents a more independent version of South Korea's current plan, which relies on support from US aircraft carriers. As it stands, no major military commander recommends military action against North Korea, which has a staggering array of conventional — and potentially nuclear — weapons pointed at Seoul, where 26 million call home.

But South Korea's new plan to quickly and decisively dominate the North relies on reforming the defense-acquisition process and cutting out wasteful spending to wield the full might of its economic dominance against Pyongyang, according to the report. For that reason, don't expect the plan to take effect anytime soon.

 

[Tragi-Chan]

Oh, and now Europe is in his sights.

Got to say, I don't really rate the Express' opinion on these things very highly. You know those wrinkly old women you see who just look permanently furious about everything? That's the Daily Express.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.tele...-seoul-residents-told-do-case-war-breaks/amp/

How to survive a nuclear blast: Seoul expats told what to do in case war breaks out with North Korea

Residents of South Korea - including the sizeable British community - have been advised to take precautions against the possibility of a conflict breaking out on the Korean Peninsula and are being instructed how to protect themselves from massed artillery fire, a chemical weapons attack and even how to survive a nuclear blast.

British residents of Seoul, however, have played down the severity of the situation. "Every so often, the tensions rise, there are talks, North Korea walks out, they talk some more and things calm down again", said Mike Breen, author of "The New Koreans" and a resident of South Korea since 1982.

"I walked to work this morning and I noticed nothing different", he told The Telegraph. "At the moment, there is no panic or even an atmosphere of concern. We have been here before."

Andrew Salmon, a journalist and author who lives in Seoul, echoed those beliefs, adding that "life continues as normal".

"I don't think there is any chance of war breaking out unless the US decides to carry out a pre-emptive attack and I just don't get the sense that is something that is likely to happen", he said.

Nevertheless, citing guidelines drawn up by the Ministry of Public Administration and Security, The Korea Herald on Tuesday printed a list of measures for residents to take in the event of "the worst-case scenario".

Members of the public are being advised to prepare an emergency supply kit "designed to keep you alive while staying in a shelter for as long as it takes". The kit needs to include medicines, food and water, a battery-powered radio, a torch, spare batteries and gas masks.

Foreign residents are also advised to check with their companies or organisations on evacuation procedures, as well as to follow instructions provided by embassies.

In the event of artillery attacks, civilians are advised to seek shelter in one of the 24,000 reinforced buildings, underground stations and subterranean parking spaces that have been designated as shelters.

Residents are being told to put on gas masks or hold a cloth over their noses and mouths at the first sign of a chemical weapons attack. Anyone indoors is advised to close the windows and seal ventilators or cracks around doors and windows.

Those caught outdoors should go to the top of tall buildings as chemical agents such as sarin are heavier than air and will build up at lower elevations.

A nuclear explosion will knock out communications as well as destroying a large part of major cities. Anyone who survives the initial blast is advised to take shelter inside a concrete structure and minimise contact with anything that may be radioactive.

There are an estimated 8,000 British citizens living in South Korea and, should the worst-case scenario happen, British nationals would be told to meet at designated locations in major cities to be evacuated by the US military.

The British embassy in Seoul declined to provide further details of its evacuation plans but emphasised that plans for a wide range of emergency scenarios are in place and exercises are conducted regularly to ensure that they are effective.

"We are obviously being absolutely vigilant and we do not take any situation for granted", an embassy official said. "We are closely watching developments and are updating our advice as and when is necessary".

Sweet, we can dust the old Protect and Survive films off.

 

[Techpriest]

>China claims to have shot down airborne missiles
Yes, cruise missiles. But that's not exactly extremely difficult.

 

[Ravenor]

Sweet, we can dust the old Protect and Survive films off.

A good portion of that stuff is out of date now, particularly the food storage relating to canned food can's now are about 1/3 as thick so don't have the same resistance to radiation and the sealing of some of them while food safe absorbs radiation and holds onto it irradiating the food.

Same goes for the emergency shelter made from doors and internal wall's, they were written with Solid wooden doors in mind, not the hollow core things we have today and the internal wall's are now hollow core mostly not solid brick so will not provide the support and protection as the description says it would.

The Potato sack sleeping bags are a joke because they were not intended for sleeping in they were supposed to act as impromptu body bag's for when the radiation got to 90% of the surviving populace and to help keep the rodent population under control (rats are more resistant to radiation than humans), the bed sheet wrap for people who died in the blasts works the same.

So yea really useful guide there.

Sorry nuclear weapons are something I hate seeing joked about, and that guide even when it was new was useless it was essentially the British Government trying to be seen to do something, and the guide is about as useful in reality as OPL would be performing brain surgery. I've read the fucking thing trust me in most of the UK you'd be better dying during the blast than you would surviving for any length of time.

 

[Coconut Gun]

A good portion of that stuff is out of date now, particularly the food storage relating to canned food can's now are about 1/3 as thick so don't have the same resistance to radiation and the sealing of some of them while food safe absorbs radiation and holds onto it irradiating the food.

Same goes for the emergency shelter made from doors and internal wall's, they were written with Solid wooden doors in mind, not the hollow core things we have today and the internal wall's are now hollow core mostly not solid brick so will not provide the support and protection as the description says it would.

The Potato sack sleeping bags are a joke because they were not intended for sleeping in they were supposed to act as impromptu body bag's for when the radiation got to 90% of the surviving populace and to help keep the rodent population under control (rats are more resistant to radiation than humans), the bed sheet wrap for people who died in the blasts works the same.

So yea really useful guide there.

Sorry nuclear weapons are something I hate seeing joked about, and that guide even when it was new was useless it was essentially the British Government trying to be seen to do something, and the guide is about as useful in reality as OPL would be performing brain surgery. I've read the fucking thing trust me in most of the UK you'd be better dying during the blast than you would surviving for any length of time.

Is it true that hiding under your desk will protect you from a blast completely?

 

[Tragi-Chan]

A good portion of that stuff is out of date now, particularly the food storage relating to canned food can's now are about 1/3 as thick so don't have the same resistance to radiation and the sealing of some of them while food safe absorbs radiation and holds onto it irradiating the food.

Same goes for the emergency shelter made from doors and internal wall's, they were written with Solid wooden doors in mind, not the hollow core things we have today and the internal wall's are now hollow core mostly not solid brick so will not provide the support and protection as the description says it would.

The Potato sack sleeping bags are a joke because they were not intended for sleeping in they were supposed to act as impromptu body bag's for when the radiation got to 90% of the surviving populace and to help keep the rodent population under control (rats are more resistant to radiation than humans), the bed sheet wrap for people who died in the blasts works the same.

So yea really useful guide there.

Sorry nuclear weapons are something I hate seeing joked about, and that guide even when it was new was useless it was essentially the British Government trying to be seen to do something, and the guide is about as useful in reality as OPL would be performing brain surgery. I've read the fucking thing trust me in most of the UK you'd be better dying during the blast than you would surviving for any length of time.

I don't think anyone takes those films seriously any more. Frankly I think Threads was a much more realistic depiction of what would happen.

 

[CWCissey]

A good portion of that stuff is out of date now, particularly the food storage relating to canned food can's now are about 1/3 as thick so don't have the same resistance to radiation and the sealing of some of them while food safe absorbs radiation and holds onto it irradiating the food.

Same goes for the emergency shelter made from doors and internal wall's, they were written with Solid wooden doors in mind, not the hollow core things we have today and the internal wall's are now hollow core mostly not solid brick so will not provide the support and protection as the description says it would.

The Potato sack sleeping bags are a joke because they were not intended for sleeping in they were supposed to act as impromptu body bag's for when the radiation got to 90% of the surviving populace and to help keep the rodent population under control (rats are more resistant to radiation than humans), the bed sheet wrap for people who died in the blasts works the same.

So yea really useful guide there.

Sorry nuclear weapons are something I hate seeing joked about, and that guide even when it was new was useless it was essentially the British Government trying to be seen to do something, and the guide is about as useful in reality as OPL would be performing brain surgery. I've read the fucking thing trust me in most of the UK you'd be better dying during the blast than you would surviving for any length of time.

https://vimeo.com/channels/1055902

 

[Trans Fat 41g]

COME ON WE HAVE TO GET TO THE VAULT.

 

[Hodor]

http://www.businessinsider.com/north-korea-expected-icbm-launch-full-range-september-9-2017-9

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

http://www.businessinsider.com/north-korea-expected-icbm-launch-full-range-september-9-2017-9

Shit then.

If it does land in the Ocean, I have no doubts that China and Russia will crack down harder on the Norks than they already have thus far.

 

[Randall Fragg]

A good portion of that stuff is out of date now, particularly the food storage relating to canned food can's now are about 1/3 as thick so don't have the same resistance to radiation and the sealing of some of them while food safe absorbs radiation and holds onto it irradiating the food.

Same goes for the emergency shelter made from doors and internal wall's, they were written with Solid wooden doors in mind, not the hollow core things we have today and the internal wall's are now hollow core mostly not solid brick so will not provide the support and protection as the description says it would.

The Potato sack sleeping bags are a joke because they were not intended for sleeping in they were supposed to act as impromptu body bag's for when the radiation got to 90% of the surviving populace and to help keep the rodent population under control (rats are more resistant to radiation than humans), the bed sheet wrap for people who died in the blasts works the same.

So yea really useful guide there.

Sorry nuclear weapons are something I hate seeing joked about, and that guide even when it was new was useless it was essentially the British Government trying to be seen to do something, and the guide is about as useful in reality as OPL would be performing brain surgery. I've read the fucking thing trust me in most of the UK you'd be better dying during the blast than you would surviving for any length of time.

Actually, the fallout would only be a real concern if you lived downwind from a missile silo or other ground-based target, or whoever's firing is just flinging shit everywhere in a genocidal fit. Fallout is only produced during groundburst strikes, which would be used against hardened military targets. Airburst strikes, like what was used in Hiroshima, cause a larger area of destruction but produce little fallout, and what would be used against population and industrial centers. Of course, you're still fucked if you're inside the blast radius, but less fucked than in a flat out "salt the earth" scenario.

 

[Hatoful Dandy]

Is it true that hiding under your desk will protect you from a blast completely?

Everyone knows fridges make the best emergency shelters.

 

[Computery Guy]

tfw a crackhead is more capable of creating peaceful solutions with anyone than the UN.

FTFY

 

[CWCchange]

Shit then.

If it does land in the Ocean, I have no doubts that China and Russia will crack down harder on the Norks than they already have thus far.

He wants to hit Hurricane Irma to see if it becomes radioactive.

 

[Jan_Hus]

So what happens if they fuck up their test launch? Like let's say the missile "accidentally" explodes on the launchpad or "accidentally" veers off course to some populated area

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

So what happens if they fuck up their test launch? Like let's say the missile "accidentally" explodes on the launchpad or "accidentally" veers off course to some populated area

If it blows up on the launchpad? Then Kim gets pissy about it.

If it hits a populated city anywhere in North Korea or beyond? If the former, Kim realizes he fucked up and reconsiders his actions. If the latter, then everyone will realize there's no reasoning with him (Russia and China included) and plan to take him and his hunger-ridden army down.

Honestly though, it's all a big . Kim's gone on record that his launches are becoming more and more successful, so who knows what'll happen come Saturday.

 

[ICametoLurk]

Which makes me all the more curious about what Rodman would have done had Hillary been elected, given that he's supposedly a Trump supporter.

He would have asked his tubby best buddy to nuke us all to the ground, full stop. But that's just me.

In the 2008 debates when asked what would they do if Iran attacked Israel Hillary said that she would've totally obliterated Iran. And I believe she chose those words carefully. The USA has all sorts of bombs, including Cobalt bombs. A cobalt bomb would capable of not just wiping all big life-forms, but also would be also capable of wiping out all bacterial life as it would form a even layer of a hundredth of a gram of cobalt 60 for every square foot.


North Korea would become merely a fable told to children for generations in the future to scare them to sleep if Hillary was elected and they started shit.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

In the 2008 debates when asked what would they do if Iran attacked Israel Hillary said that she would've totally obliterated Iran. And I believe she chose those words carefully. The USA has all sorts of bombs, including Cobalt bombs. A cobalt bomb would capable of not just wiping all big life-forms, but also would be also capable of wiping out all bacterial life as it would form a even layer of a hundredth of a gram of cobalt 60 for every square foot.


North Korea would become merely a fable told to children for generations in the future to scare them to sleep if Hillary was elected and they started shit.

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Hillary somehow managed to be worse than Trump in a similar situation had she been elected.

Because at least Trump eventually decided on more than just instant military action. Clinton would probably "nuke first, ask questions later."

 

[nad7155]

if Hillary somehow managed to be worse than Trump in a similar situation had she been elected.

Hillary would be worse no matter what.

Obama 2.0, but white with a gash between her old, nasty thighs.

 

[Ravenor]

So what happens if they fuck up their test launch? Like let's say the missile "accidentally" explodes on the launchpad or "accidentally" veers off course to some populated area

If they screw up and it blows up on the pad nothing much will change, if it fucks up and heads towards a population centre well that's when things get very scary there is already a carrier group in the region and as I have said before the US does not fuck around when it comes to air power the NK airforce may last about 5 minutes but nothing will be left of the antiquated airforce they have to take off after.

Fatty will tard rage and try and shell the shit out of Seoul in retaliation and those batteries that do light up will be taken out after the first volley, NK will then try an zerg rush the border, SK and US forces in the region put long standing battle plans into action.

//cut to save time//

Fatty 3 is either killed by his generals or off's himself in whatever hidey hole he's fucked off to in the last week since this whole mess started, NK is divided up between a Chinese puppet region and SK and remains that way for a few decades until China implodes under the weights of it's own autism.

 

[Bob's Fries]

Because they're stupid. Corn was introduced as North Korean's main crop by Kim Il-sung, because the eternal leader wanted to modernise agriculture and he took a leaf out of the Soviet Union's book. When Khrushchev visited the country, he was absolutely alienated (quite the accomplishment) that Kim would still force his farmers to grow corn besides the fact that the North Korean weather and soil weren't good enough for it. Kim wasn't even willing to give up the plan when Soviet agronomists told him, that this shit would cause a massive famine. Well...

Source, my friend? Not that I don't believe you, it just sounds exactly what would happen. But I'd like to see it for myself.