KR North Korea Megathread - Dear Leader and his shenanigans

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There's so much news about North Korea right now and what Un is doing, I got a suggestion for a NK megathread, so here it is. Post the world's greatest nation's antics here. I'm merging a few of the more recent threads to continue discussion.



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https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/south-korea-planning-war-decapitation-132232777.html

South Korean President Moon Jae-in has pushed for a new plan for a rapid war with North Korea and an overhaul of the country's defense industry to overwhelm and crush the North's government, the South Korean newspaper The Chosun Ilbo reported Tuesday.

Moon took office in May promising to attempt to engage diplomatically with North Korea and seek peace, but in the months since, the North has provoked the international community with missile tests at a blistering pace.

For some time, South Korea has been training a "decapitation force," reportedly with the help of the US Navy's SEAL Team 6, but now an increasingly bold North Korea may demand quicker action.

South Korea's new plan identifies more than 1,000 targets for precision missile fires and sites for marines to drop in and quickly kill North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, the paper reported.

The plan represents a more independent version of South Korea's current plan, which relies on support from US aircraft carriers. As it stands, no major military commander recommends military action against North Korea, which has a staggering array of conventional — and potentially nuclear — weapons pointed at Seoul, where 26 million call home.

But South Korea's new plan to quickly and decisively dominate the North relies on reforming the defense-acquisition process and cutting out wasteful spending to wield the full might of its economic dominance against Pyongyang, according to the report. For that reason, don't expect the plan to take effect anytime soon.
 
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https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1BD0IY

Pope tells South Korean faith leaders to promote reconciliation


(Reuters) - Pope Francis called on a delegation of South Korean religious leaders to promote reconciliation and spurn violence and fear on Saturday, amid a tense standoff on their home peninsula.

Representatives of several religions met the Argentine pontiff at the Vatican and listened to an address in which he said their work must begin by "rolling up our sleeves".

"Religious leaders are ... called upon to initiate, promote and accompany processes for the welfare and reconciliation of all people," Francis told the 20-strong delegation.


"We are called to be heralds of peace, proclaiming and embodying a non-violent style, a style of peace, with words clearly different from the narrative of fear, and with gestures opposed to the rhetoric of hatred."

Wealthy, democratic South Korea is technically at war with its poor, reclusive northern neighbour, which regularly threatens to destroy the South and its main ally, the United States.

North Korea ratcheted up tensions in the region last week with the launch of an intermediate-range ballistic missile that flew over Japan and landed in the Pacific.

In response, the United States and South Korea agreed to revise a treaty limiting development of ballistic missiles, which the South wants to use to boost its defences.


The delegation visiting the Vatican was made up of members of the Korean Council of Religious Leaders, which includes Catholics, Protestants, Buddhists, Won Buddhists, Confucians, and representatives of the Chondogyo and native Korean religions.



(Reporting by Isla Binnie; Editing by Ros Russell)
 
Lou Wrong said:
What happened? These tests are much less bad than when the north sunk the Cheonan and shelled Yeongpyron island (both of which were during Obama's time in office.) Not to mention that the nuclear part of the incidents is actually the culmination of efforts that they began undertaking under KJI.
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Even Bush declared NK as part of an axis of evil and nothing really came of it other than some posturing from NK.

I honestly think a lot of it stems from the actions of fatty compared to his father and grandfather. He tossed out all of his father's most trusted advisers, had his uncle executed and publicly announced it (which, like, never happens. It was always and "accident" or something), and it's pretty obvious that he had his already exiled brother assassinated. It's that type of sudden behavior I think that had foreign powers paying far more attention to the country than before. Un is both trying to emulate his grandfather, but also is desperate to be superior to him in the eyes of his government and people. The desperation is the scary part.
 
Yaks said:
Un is both trying to emulate his grandfather, but also is desperate to be superior to him in the eyes of his government and people. The desperation is the scary part.
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His problem is the only people competent enough to keep his regime even running in its currently dysfunctional state are exactly the people who would have him killed if they saw an opening. If he gets to the point he doesn't see a future without him dead, I don't think he'll care much about what happens to the rest of the world or to North Korea itself.
 
Why do I get the feeling those morons are going to cause another INES Level 7 incident? The rate at which they're developing potential nuclear material is lightning fast and given their economic situation, containment procedures probably aren't the best. I mean, hell, look what happened at Fukishima Daichi and Japan is buddy-buddy with the US.
 
Some information I found interesting since I was googling this stuff earlier because of the pictures of fatty standing next to the "bomb":
  • The bomb dropped on Hiroshima was an atomic bomb, and had a blast yield of about 15 kilotons of TNT.
  • Hydrogen bombs basically use an atomic bomb as a detonator for a larger payload.
  • The largest hydrogen bomb explosion is the Tsar Bomba 55 years ago, which was 50 kilotons.
So NK might have just doubled or tripled their firepower by upgrading from atomic to hydrogen bombs. I wish they would do something already so that America would have an excuse to just wipe them off the map already.

EDIT: Turns out basically this is wrong, see xxXDxx's post a few down.
 
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The Tsar Bomba was the biggest bomb ever built, period.* I doubt they have that much power, but Hydrogen bombs aren't nothing to fuck with. Hopefully fatty isn't that stupid to use it on a country other than his own.

*At least publicly acknowledged and/or detonated.
 
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tehpope said:
The Tsar Bomba was the biggest bomb ever built, period. I doubt they have that much power, but Hydrogen bombs aren't nothing to fuck with. Hopefully fatty isn't that stupid to use it on a country other than his own.
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I doubt that America hasn't built something larger than the Tsar Bomba by now. Y'know, just in case. But yeah, I was probably being optimistic about NK's competency.
 
Super Smash Bros. Fan said:
I am disappointed that this was not named "Best Korea Megathread". For shame.
I doubt it. In light of the overthrow of the Kim dynasty (in some way), China is going to want to get involved in some way to ensure that the border of one of their enemies (South Korea) does not reach theirs.

I suspect that China will essentially claim the nation (even if not officially) as their own once they feel as North Korea no longer serves as a proper buffer zone due to Kim Jong-Un's autistic raging and threats of nukes.
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In my honest opinion (and just my opinion; if anyone has any other viewpoints or counter-arguments I'd love to hear them) the civilian population of North Korea is a bigger deterrent to its re-integration with the south than any force of arms ever raised within its borders. There are more than 25 million under-educated, malnourished, partially indoctrinated, completely impoverished serfs under North Koran rule. If North Korea laid down its arms tomorrow and peacefully surrendered with no strings attached, the simple burden of taking care of all those people would bankrupt the south overnight. NK is basically a giant prison camp, and nobody wants the responsibility of caring for all of its inmates. In the long run, it's simply easier for everyone involved to put up with the North's posturing, grandstanding and illegal activities than put them down. Not because it'd be particularly hard militarily, but because then the conquering nation would have to deal with all the problems the NK government deals with for them. It's just too big of a problem for anyone to really countenance, certainly not in the democratic times we live in today.
 
CWCissey said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41138834

Kim Jong Un has been watching Blue Peter again and may have had his best styrofoam sculptors on the job.

Or the madman may have actually done it...
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when you call a bomb styrofoam and less than 12 hours later it explodes with the force of a hundred thousand tons of TNT

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Coconut Gun said:
Some information I found interesting since I was googling this stuff earlier because of the pictures of fatty standing next to the "bomb":
  • The bomb dropped on Hiroshima was an atomic bomb, and had a blast yield of about 15 kilotons of TNT.
  • Hydrogen bombs basically use an atomic bomb as a detonator for a larger payload.
  • The largest hydrogen bomb explosion is the Tsar Bomba 55 years ago, which was 50 kilotons.
So NK might have just doubled or tripled their firepower by upgrading from atomic to hydrogen bombs. I wish they would do something already so that America would have an excuse to just wipe them off the map already.
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You're off by a couple orders of magnitude.

Tsar Bomba was 50,000 kilotons. 50 megatons. (Think kilobytes v megabytes). Current US bombs are in the 1-2 megaton (1000-2000 kiloton) range. North Korea's new H-bomb is estimated around 100-400 kilotons.
 
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