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There's so much news about North Korea right now and what Un is doing, I got a suggestion for a NK megathread, so here it is. Post the world's greatest nation's antics here. I'm merging a few of the more recent threads to continue discussion.



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https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/south-korea-planning-war-decapitation-132232777.html

South Korean President Moon Jae-in has pushed for a new plan for a rapid war with North Korea and an overhaul of the country's defense industry to overwhelm and crush the North's government, the South Korean newspaper The Chosun Ilbo reported Tuesday.

Moon took office in May promising to attempt to engage diplomatically with North Korea and seek peace, but in the months since, the North has provoked the international community with missile tests at a blistering pace.

For some time, South Korea has been training a "decapitation force," reportedly with the help of the US Navy's SEAL Team 6, but now an increasingly bold North Korea may demand quicker action.

South Korea's new plan identifies more than 1,000 targets for precision missile fires and sites for marines to drop in and quickly kill North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, the paper reported.

The plan represents a more independent version of South Korea's current plan, which relies on support from US aircraft carriers. As it stands, no major military commander recommends military action against North Korea, which has a staggering array of conventional — and potentially nuclear — weapons pointed at Seoul, where 26 million call home.

But South Korea's new plan to quickly and decisively dominate the North relies on reforming the defense-acquisition process and cutting out wasteful spending to wield the full might of its economic dominance against Pyongyang, according to the report. For that reason, don't expect the plan to take effect anytime soon.
 
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  • "NBC quoted five unidentified U.S. officials."
  • "The State Department said it could not confirm it and did not comment on matters of intelligence."
  • "NBC quoted one senior U.S. intelligence official."
  • "According to more than a dozen American officials who are familiar with their assessments."
  • "Four other officials familiar with the intelligence assessment."
  • "NBC News agreed to withhold some details of the latest intelligence assessment that officials said could put sources at risk."
This report and the NBC report it's incestuously reporting really need to step up their game. They don't source anything, they don't name any names, they don't link to a single legitimate document, and more than a few times in here we're getting dangerously close to the line, "Sources familiar with his thinking." These 12+ people might not even fucking exist for all we know. I'm so fed up with "ghost reporting" that tries to make these huge, bombastic claims but offers absolutely no way whatsoever for you to be able to prove whether the journalist is just talking out of their ass or not.

Also, what the fuck is with that last one? "We're going to keep this classified information you blurted out over the phone a secret, but we're going to tell everyone that we have classified information and we're keeping it a secret." That's such a weird thing to put in the article.
 
  • "NBC quoted five unidentified U.S. officials."
  • "The State Department said it could not confirm it and did not comment on matters of intelligence."
  • "NBC quoted one senior U.S. intelligence official."
  • "According to more than a dozen American officials who are familiar with their assessments."
  • "Four other officials familiar with the intelligence assessment."
  • "NBC News agreed to withhold some details of the latest intelligence assessment that officials said could put sources at risk."
This report and the NBC report it's incestuously reporting really need to step up their game. They don't source anything, they don't name any names, they don't link to a single legitimate document, and more than a few times in here we're getting dangerously close to the line, "Sources familiar with his thinking." These 12+ people might not even fucking exist for all we know. I'm so fed up with "ghost reporting" that tries to make these huge, bombastic claims but offers absolutely no way whatsoever for you to be able to prove whether the journalist is just talking out of their ass or not.

Also, what the fuck is with that last one? "We're going to keep this classified information you blurted out over the phone a secret, but we're going to tell everyone that we have classified information and we're keeping it a secret." That's such a weird thing to put in the article.
If that's the case, why even have news to begin with?
 
If that's the case, why even have news to begin with?

Because apparently the purpose of news organizations has shifted from informing the populace to manipulation of the populace. Propaganda doesn't have to be factual, and continuing to call it "news" is a way of trying to add legitimacy to it so the general public are more likely to buy into it.
 
Because apparently the purpose of news organizations has shifted from informing the populace to manipulation of the populace. Propaganda doesn't have to be factual, and continuing to call it "news" is a way of trying to add legitimacy to it so the general public are more likely to buy into it.

Hell, most of the news media openly considers itself an unofficial branch of the government. And then they want you to keep considering them a neutral and unbiased source.
 
Part of me just wonders at the kinda shit that is cached all over North Korea. Be it arms (I bet they got a bunch of good rare stuff I would like to see imported here), general supplies, tech, art, and gold. I mean they have had 60+ years of tunnel digging and such. All in case of ww3 or an invasion.

That is on top of the various historical sites and just graves of the dead from the Japanese occupation and the Korean war.

If the curtain falls akin to the Soviet Union. I have no doubt a large chunk of all of the above would end up on the black market overnight.

I wouldn't mind some SKSs, Nagants, and various AK parts kits.
 
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But since it's all unnamed sources couched in vague terms leaking information that can't be verified because it's supposedly classified, can you actually believe it? Or is it just more of the media's ongoing propaganda campaign against anything Trump does?

See, that's the thing, it's not exactly farfetched that the Norks would be trying to pull a fast one. But with Jim Acosta openly trying to sabotage the talks, every news organization constantly and transparently attempting to seed doubt and cast a cloud over the negotiations, and so on, it takes something otherwise believable and makes you wonder if it's an outright lie.
 
But since it's all unnamed sources couched in vague terms leaking information that can't be verified because it's supposedly classified, can you actually believe it? Or is it just more of the media's ongoing propaganda campaign against anything Trump does?

See, that's the thing, it's not exactly farfetched that the Norks would be trying to pull a fast one. But with Jim Acosta openly trying to sabotage the talks, every news organization constantly and transparently attempting to seed doubt and cast a cloud over the negotiations, and so on, it takes something otherwise believable and makes you wonder if it's an outright lie.
And honestly, even if the Norks are trying to use Trump as a means to an end, they'll still blow this shit out of the water no matter how bad it actually would get.

That's what the news has been reduced to these days. No wonder Trump hates them- They're all falling victim to collective r.etardation and propaganda.
 
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Japanese fishermen fear confrontation with North Korea boats as season peaks



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An aerial view shows a Japan Coast Guard patrol vessel spraying water at a fishing boat from North Korea, in an area called the Yamato Shallows, where in waters Japan says is part of its exclusive economic zone (EEZ), about 400 kilometers off the western coast of Japan, in this handout photo taken in September 2017 and provided by Japan Coast Guard. Japan Coast Guard/Handout via
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Relatives and crew members of squid fishing ship Hosei-Maru No.58 hold small party before the departure of the ship for fishing at a port in Sakata, Yamagata prefecture, northern Japan, June 6, 2018.
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(Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump has declared North Korea is no longer a threat, but that doesn't make the Japanese fishermen of Sakata feel any easier as they leave port for the peak fishing season.

Instead, they worry they will have to confront North Korean fishing boats competing for their prized catch of squid in the fertile waters of the Yamato Shallows, 400 kilometres (250 miles) off Japan's northwestern coast and an area Tokyo says is its exclusive economic zone.

In a ceremony marking the start of the fishing season this month, captains of Sakata's fleet prayed for a safe fishing season and plentiful harvest. Children threw colorful ribbons onto ship decks as crewmen waved to their families from departing ships.

"The North Koreans came so close last year that we could see their faces," said Shigeru Saito, 60, a captain of a squid fishing ship in Sakata.

Video taken by fishermen last year show gaunt men on board North Korean boats drifting just meters from Japanese vessels.

Many of the North's boats are small and rickety compared to Japan's bigger, modern vessels, increasing the risk of an unintentional collision, especially at night when most squid fishing takes place.

The North's vessels began appearing some years ago in a push by Pyongyang to increase the country's marine catch. Thousands of these wooden vessels were spotted last year in the waters.

About 70 percent of North Korea's population of 25 million is "food insecure", meaning they struggle to avoid hunger, according to the World Food Programme.

Analysts say the influx of North Korean fishermen may ease this year given China's ban on fish imports from the state. But some will return, looking for ways to earn extra sources of income in a country whose economy has been squeezed by international sanctions over its nuclear weapons development.


"The only thing Japan can do now is to prevent North Korean fishing ships from entering and for the Japanese Coast Guard to continue to use methods such as spraying water to keep them out," said Satoru Miyamoto, a professor in the political science and economics department at Seigakuin University in Saitama in Greater Tokyo.

A Coast Guard spokesman said that as of June 1, its ships had ordered 112 North Korean vessels to leave the Yamato Shallows and had used water spray to disperse 19 vessels.

But fishermen say they want Japan to take more aggressive steps, such as arresting North Korean fishermen, whom they call poachers, to secure their fishing grounds.

"I'm sure it'll be the same again this year. Politicians may believe in North Korea, but I don't trust Kim (Jong Un) and I think their fishing boats will continue to come," said Saito.
 
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Signs that North Korea is planning something big for September: Blocked visas, parade practice and haircuts

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North Korea is planning a party. Next month, the reclusive country will celebrate the 70th anniversary of the founding of the country, officially known as the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea. And there are signs that the event, which will take place Sept. 9, will be a celebration to watch.

Those observing the preparations for the event have spotted practice for a military parade, while tourist visas to the country have apparently been blocked — sparking speculation about who, exactly, the VIP guests could be. According to one report, a close eye is being kept on the finest details: Ruling-party youth groups have been sent around the country to keep tabs on taboo haircuts, Radio Free Asia reports.

The North Korean state cherishes anniversaries, using them to reinforce the tale of how their small, embattled state fought off bigger foes such as imperial Japan and the United States. It often uses parades on these days to send a message to these foreign rivals. For example, on the 105th anniversary of the birth of the country’s founder, Kim Il Sung, in April last year, North Korea used the day to show off a variety of new intercontinental missiles — an early hint of the technological advances testing would later confirm.

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On last year’s anniversary in September, Kim held an event where he celebrated the work of nuclear scientists and engineers who had helped the country test its biggest-ever nuclear bomb just a few days earlier. Earlier in the year, in February, North Korea had used another military parade to display the recently tested Hwasong-14 and Hwasong-15 missiles that could theoretically deliver a nuclear weapon to the continental United States.

This year’s DPRK anniversary event will be different, however. In many ways, the messaging behind it will be more complex.

North Korea was previously happy to menace the United States and other rivals with visions of military might as tensions escalated rapidly. This June, however, North Korean leader Kim Jong Un met with President Trump in Singapore, where they agreed to work toward peace. Kim has also held several meetings with his South Korean counterpart, President Moon Jae-in, with both sides talking hopefully of greater integration.

The negotiations that started with these meetings have been far from conclusive. In particular, North Korea and the United States seem to be at odds over the issue of denuclearization — with Washington seeking progress on North Korea giving up its nuclear weapons before other issues, such as the long-awaited official end of the Korean War, while Pyongyang clearly views things differently.

As such, although relations are nominally warmer with the United States, a surprise Trump visit to Pyongyang on Sept. 9 looks unlikely. Instead, many are expecting a different guest — Chinese President Xi Jinping — whose presence would send a message to Washington that it isn’t the only game in town.

Either way, Sept. 9 is expected to be a big event. Jeffrey Lewis, a nonproliferation expert at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies at Monterey who often uses satellite imagery to keep track of North Korea’s weapons program, pointed to images from Aug. 11 that appeared to show people in Pyongyang preparing their choreography for the day.

More satellite imagery analysis published by NK News suggested that the events of Sept. 9 would, indeed, include a military parade, with an apparent buildup of military assets at an airfield in east Pyongyang that had been used as a preparations ground for previous military parades. It is unclear from the imagery what sort of weaponry might be included in the parade.

On another practical note, tour groups have said that Pyongyang has stopped issuing tourism visas for September. One group, Koryo Tours, wrote on its website that the firm had been informed “by our partners in Pyongyang that they had been instructed from above that all tourist visa applications currently underway are to be frozen.” Koryo later wrote that this applied only to tours up until Sept. 9.

Koryo speculated that the frozen visa applications suggested that Pyongyang was still working out who the VIP foreign guests attending the events Sept. 9 might be. “A higher power in the country is simply pressing pause on tourism until it is clear to them who is coming in such delegations and how many people,” they wrote in their statement.

Chinese tour groups have also said they have had their packages blocked — with North Korean authorities apparently citing “renovation” at all hotels in Pyongyang for the rest of August. There had been rumors in the South Korean media that Xi would attend in September. South Korean leader Moon is also expected to visit North Korea at some point that month.

With little official confirmation and outside access to the country limited, reports are still largely limited to rumors and speculation. Radio Free Asia cited one unnamed source in the country that the government had given out special instructions to “root out nonsocialist phenomena, such as fashion choices and hairstyles that do not fit the socialist lifestyle.”

Reports a few years ago that North Korea was mandating the haircuts of young men were largely met with suspicion from experts, who suggested that a trend toward copying Kim Jong Un’s hairstyle was just that: a trend. But there’s no denying that North Korea will be image-conscious this September — it certainly knows the world will be watching.
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http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-09/11/c_137460441.htm

S. Korea, DPRK to hold working-level military talks on Sept. 13
Source: Xinhua| 2018-09-11 13:34:16|Editor: Yang Yi


SEOUL, Sept. 11 (Xinhua) -- South Korea and the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) agreed to hold the working-level talks on military affairs later this week, Seoul's Defense Ministry said Tuesday.

The ministry said the two sides agreed to hold the 40th round of inter-Korean working-level military talks on Sept. 13 at Tongilgak, a DPRK building at the border village of Panmunjom.

The DPRK side proposed the military dialogue, accepted by the South Korean side, according to the ministry.

The military talks would come ahead of the summit between South Korean President Moon Jae-in and DPRK top leader Kim Jong Un, scheduled to be held in Pyongyang for three days from Sept. 18.

The colonel-level military officers from the two sides were forecast to discuss ways to ease military tensions between the two Koreas, including the withdrawal of a part of guard posts inside the demilitarized zone (DMZ), which divides the two sides, on a trial basis.

Also on the dialogue agenda would be ways to disarm the Joint Security Area (JSA) inside the Panmunjom and the joint excavation of the remains of fallen soldiers during the 1950-53 Korean War.

Those issues were agreed upon by the two sides during the general-grade military talks in late July.
 
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Neat. I actually like keeping tabs on North Korea now, watching this situation slowly, steadily improve has been nice.
 
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