Nolan's The Odyssey - Potentially could be epic or an epic flop.

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wtfNeedSignUp said:
I hate being lectured about "how didn't the Trojans knew the horse was a trick" by a boomer that would open an executable named Windows 26. If anything going the extra steps to "prove" it is safe makes it look significantly more suspicious than just leaving it and running away.

If they wanted to make it more real either have the Trojans refuse to cut it open due to superstition or have the guards looking for it getting drunk in the post victory revelry.
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Having the Trojan horse be an even more 180iq trick with insane complexity and realistic proportions completely misses one of the main themes of the Iliad and the Odyssey: xenia and the violation of it. The whole war started because Paris violated guest right and stole Helen, and the Greeks hiding inside a sacred votive offering (in one source it's even an outright gift to the Trojans iirc) and violating a sort-of-xenia foreshadows their abhorrently impious behavior when sacking Troy. Not having the Trojans blindly trust the horse also makes the ambiguous morality of the war lesser, because part of the tragedy of the sack is that the Trojans genuinely wanted to believe the best of the Greeks and to trust them on their word after ten long years of war, especially after Achilles WAS actually honorable with Hector's body when meeting Priam.
 
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Nigger doesn't respond to criticism... by taking an interview about the criticism.
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Yes, Greek mythology, very well known for representing the entire world and not just Greco-Roman culture.
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"What even is beauty?"
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Who cares about research when Nolan can crap whatever he wants onto the page!
 
This showed up in my feed this morning:


It really makes me sad that Christopher Nolan is now being discussed with the same tone and snark that was previously only reserved for what most other people considered "lesser" directors.

The fact that his work is being (not unjustifiably) perceived as pedestrian, as in, through the same cultural conversation as far less prestigious directors, shows a downfall that even I have to admit is pretty damning.
 
Incecticyder said:
Many intellectuals have the same thoughts regarding magnets.
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Okay, I'm going to offer a big lump of charity on this one, but I'll ground it reality. Just give me a second.

I understand what he's doing with this statement, in that, it's almost childlike in releasing oneself from the notion of "I don't always understand a thing, so I'm going to turn a concept on its head to see how it works if you change something about it". It's liberating and allows for creativity, which is something you want in a writer in the creative arts.

That having been said:

This is a conversation you have with your kids, you consult the Googles, you even put it in your journal for private musings that may enter into your creative endeavors later.

You do not tell this to a journalist. You do not treat this as a conversation among intellectuals. You do not make this a statement that is reflective of your being as a thinker and a creative innovator.

I wish I were done for the internet for the day.
 
Not A Bunny said:
Okay, I'm going to offer a big lump of charity on this one, but I'll ground it reality. Just give me a second.

I understand what he's doing with this statement, in that, it's almost childlike in releasing oneself from the notion of "I don't always understand a thing, so I'm going to turn a concept on its head to see how it works if you change something about it". It's liberating and allows for creativity, which is something you want in a writer in the creative arts.

That having been said:

This is a conversation you have with your kids, you consult the Googles, you even put it in your journal for private musings that may enter into your creative endeavors later.

You do not tell this to a journalist. You do not treat this as a conversation among intellectuals. You do not make this a statement that is reflective of your being as a thinker and a creative innovator.

I wish I were done for the internet for the day.
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I was just making an ICP joke. I wasn't even mocking Nolan.
 
Not A Bunny said:
I know...but I've never been above taking people to task even when I like them. Nolan deserves to eat shit for this one.
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Not to mention the fact that mirrors are just opposite because they're facing you, while there is literally no known scientific reason or understanding of how fucking magnets work.
 
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I'd take less issue with the "diverse" casting if it wasn't so cynical here. Like, Nolan magically has a cast full of blacks when all of the sudden he has to if he wants to be eligible for awards. Like, if he was doing some adaptation of an African myth or folk tale, he'd cast all blacks. And that'd be fine because that's considered "diverse". But he can't authentically cast Greek and Mediterranean because then he won't get an Oscar nom.

If he was a real artist, he'd buck the rules and make something authentic.
 
Not A Bunny said:
Okay, I'm going to offer a big lump of charity on this one, but I'll ground it reality. Just give me a second.

I understand what he's doing with this statement, in that, it's almost childlike in releasing oneself from the notion of "I don't always understand a thing, so I'm going to turn a concept on its head to see how it works if you change something about it". It's liberating and allows for creativity, which is something you want in a writer in the creative arts.

That having been said:

This is a conversation you have with your kids, you consult the Googles, you even put it in your journal for private musings that may enter into your creative endeavors later.

You do not tell this to a journalist. You do not treat this as a conversation among intellectuals. You do not make this a statement that is reflective of your being as a thinker and a creative innovator.

I wish I were done for the internet for the day.
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Nah it's absolutely retarded and the most leeway I can give it is him trying to sound smart reciting an obvious lie about how deep and pure children are.

You could argue that The Odyssey is the logical progression of Nolan's anti-truth worldview that is exemplified in this sentence. The same way he ignores basic definitions to appear to sound smart, so he ignores basic sense to put Niggers in a mythological Greek story.
 
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