NoFap / Semen Retention - And all related autism.

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Drachenlord said:
I suspect porn addicts, nofappers, incels and other misogynistic nerds are incredibly underrepresented among rapists. Try looking among the conventionally attractive and successful instead - frat houses for example are rape dens.
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Rapists come in all demographics. From conventionally attractive to incel nerd and everything in between.
 
Android raptor said:
I'm not sure if it's possible to teach these types that women are people instead of subhumans that exist solely to cater to their desires, but at the very least swinging in the opposite extreme doesn't make them better people or less likely to harm women and children.
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Believe me with these kinds of people it is almost if not completely impossible to change the way they see women and sex. I wouldn't even bother the pattern recognition in my brain is usually correct about these fucking losers.

Sailer Troon said:
The truth is that no amount of pushups and praying/meditation will fix a porn addiction. It can only be fixed if you internalize that watching porn is morally abhorrent -- not because skydaddy will send you to hell for it, or because it's masculinity-eroding cuckoldry, but because it eroticizes the abuse and humiliation of women
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Really? I think it should really be watching any types of porn that eroticizes such things as morally abhorrent rather than just porn in general due to incredibly wide range of porn content and a quite a bit of it being generally rather safe and wholesome which I don't see much of a problem with.

Porn itself generally isn't completely the issue with these people, rather it is their addictive personalities. Issue is with porn their dopamine receptors go poof really fast and so they obviously crave for more degenerate shit which in this case is way worse than just wanting to do more hardcore drugs that could kill you. The fact we even have stuff that strays from vanilla porn is a bad thing. I think we should be trying to get these people to stop watching it constantly and stick to more vanilla stuff rather than outright going no more porn.

But maybe you're right and I am wrong, who knows.
 
the rat said:
Really? I think it should really be watching any types of porn that eroticizes such things as morally abhorrent rather than just porn in general due to incredibly wide range of porn content and a quite a bit of it being generally rather safe and wholesome which I don't see much of a problem with.
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My take is as long as no real people are getting hurt and you understand the difference between fantasy and reality, you can consume whatever you want. Anne Rice's Sleeping Beauty trilogy is fiction just as much as GTA is.

That said, addiction can happen in people who are genetically predisposed to it. If it's interfering with your ability to function, you have a problem.
 
the rat said:
Believe me with these kinds of people it is almost if not completely impossible to change the way they see women and sex. I wouldn't even bother the pattern recognition in my brain is usually correct about these fucking losers.


Really? I think it should really be watching any types of porn that eroticizes such things as morally abhorrent rather than just porn in general due to incredibly wide range of porn content and a quite a bit of it being generally rather safe and wholesome which I don't see much of a problem with.

Porn itself generally isn't completely the issue with these people, rather it is their addictive personalities. Issue is with porn their dopamine receptors go poof really fast and so they obviously crave for more degenerate shit which in this case is way worse than just wanting to do more hardcore drugs that could kill you. The fact we even have stuff that strays from vanilla porn is a bad thing. I think we should be trying to get these people to stop watching it constantly and stick to more vanilla stuff rather than outright going no more porn.

But maybe you're right and I am wrong, who knows.
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From my experience, the problem is mainly being isolated weirdos who don't know how to have a conversation for their life and think the end all be all is to get a girl to use as a fucktoy. Women in nofap circles don't flick the bean because they can't get off or so what they say or they become degenerate fucks who wants a train ride every 5 minutes but they're just mentally ill, low self esteem submissives. Dopamine shit is a part of it but the main factor in all facets from what I've seen are just: virgin shut ins that don't know what eye contact is, shy fucks that don't know how to even talk to other dudes let alone women, virtue signal spirituals who do it for God, Jesus, Buddha, etc, and incels who think it'll get them laid. Manosphere thrives there and that's where all the grifts are because they know its kids wanting a guidance in life and they know they're ripe for the plucking even Andrew Tate is pro nofap.
 
Trombonista said:
Congratulations! Now enjoy Days 1 through 7 of being threadbanned.
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>Congratulations! Now enjoy Days 1 through 7 of being threadbanned.
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You've got to wonder what happens to one of these retards that does manage to actually have sex. Do they come to their senses and realize that even if they're no longer virgins they're still sad pathetic faggots or do they legitimately think they've become a "Chad " whose achieved his life's work just by getting his dick wet.
 
12GameOvers said:
Let us know if that translates to that semen actually going anywhere other than your hand once you inevitably have to start at Day 0 again!
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I just hit Day 77 and have been experiencing a surge in benefits the past few days

gravelad said:
>Congratulations! Now enjoy Days 1 through 7 of being threadbanned.
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Depicted in that GIF: Kiwifarms mods after they threadban me from The NoFap Community thread, the Donald Trump thread, and the Trump Enslavement Syndrome thread
 
On one hand, I can understand that pornography and addiction to it is becoming a fairly serious problem, but on the other, being a braggart about how morally righteous you are by not beating your meat is kind of ridiculous.
Android raptor said:
Tangentially related but I've noticed the term "porn addict" getting tossed around by tradcels to refer to anyone that looks at any kind of porn (including drawn) a normal amount. There's a different between looking at/jerking off to anime tiddies maybe once or twice a week and being a porn addict. I wonder how many are just LARPing as prude conservaboomers and how many are projecting their personal porn addiction onto everyone.

It's especially weird when shit like r/gooncaves exists. Now those are porn addicts.
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I've occasionally taken a peek at that subreddit just to laugh at them, could be a whole thread in itself but those people have computer and VR setups that more than likely cost more than some people's houses. Now that's some serious dedication. Not to mention many of them have multiple fetishes brought in by years of cooming.
A-Stump said:
If you see people bitching non-stop about porn, like it's the only thing on their mind, they are 110% junkies for it. It's like the senators who rail against fags or the dudes who get caught with CSAM. If the subject is on your mind that much, I'm going to go ahead and guess it's a matter of extreme self loathing or misdirection. Simple as.
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If it really bothers you that much that you literally cannot go a day without talking about all the porn you're not watching, it might trigger a relapse. It's like when you want to give up vaping for example and all your friends whip out the ElfBars on their coffee break or whatever. The temptation is plain as day and clearly visible.
Drachenlord said:
The „normal amount“ is zero. Porn is a fairly new invention - talking about the hypernatural, or at least realistic modern form here, not some nude or sex paintings of ye olde - and I think there’s by now enough research that porn does indeed fry your brain.
It’s a bit like talking about „taking a normal amount of drugs“.

That being said, I noticed an interesting dialectic in these discussions. On the one hand, people will always tell you that nofap is crazy and just stop jerking off if you want to, and you’ve got to be an insane loser to become addicted to porn…
And on the other hand nobody believes you when you tell them you never watch porn or jerk off.
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I'd actually argue that pornography addiction is, in some ways, more insidious than nicotine, drugs, or alcohol, as it hijacks not only the reward center of the human brain, but also, the urge to mate and reproduce that most humans have. Granted some fall into it harder than others but the idea is still there.
 
Duke Nukem said:
On one hand, I can understand that pornography and addiction to it is becoming a fairly serious problem, but on the other, being a braggart about how morally righteous you are by not beating your meat is kind of ridiculous.
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Call me old fashioned, but I find any talk of what people are doing with their meat or even talk of porn cringe. Keep that shit to yourself, the only time I find myself posting like this is when I think up of a troll persona, or when when making a hyperbolic comment for comedic effect. I cannot fathom how someone would unironically inform people about their masturbation habits, or lack there of like either deserves a gold star on the fridge for effort.
 
30+GameOvers said:
Call me old fashioned, but I find any talk of what people are doing with their meat or even talk of porn cringe. Keep that shit to yourself, the only time I find myself posting like this is when I think up of a troll persona, or when when making a hyperbolic comment for comedic effect. I cannot fathom how someone would unironically inform people about their masturbation habits, or lack there of like either deserves a gold star on the fridge for effort.
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With the stuff basically normalized, no wonder there's so many coomers and troons running around. They're not even trying to hide it when their tastes go into more deranged territory now. But yes, I agree with you I think that any sane person would want to keep those kinds of things private.
 
Duke Nukem said:
With the stuff basically normalized, no wonder there's so many coomers and troons running around. They're not even trying to hide it when their tastes go into more deranged territory now. But yes, I agree with you I think that any sane person would want to keep those kinds of things private.
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Don't get me wrong, I can SEE the benefits of making an active effort to avoid not just porn but jerking off entirely, Goonclown thread is a good reference point as to the end state of porn addiction. Even then, you shouldn't make your "No Fap Marathon" public, nobody wants to know about your sex(less) habits
 
To be obsessed with masterbation is probably not good, to be obsessed with not masterbating is probably not good, to be obsessed with others masterbating is just gay. Militant no fappers are obviously just repressed homosexuals.
 
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