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CP was legal until the 70s and even 80s in some places, as was spousal rape. The age of consent in my state was 14 until the 90s. There are still tons of problems today, especially on the internet, but there was horrific shit that was perfectly legal back in the day and even more widespread and normalized.
Whataboutism. Just because societal ills exist in other spheres does not justify the damage that porn does to people today. Porn leads to objectification which causes those previously mentioned issues to become more normalized in modern society.
 
Whataboutism. Just because societal ills exist in other spheres does not justify the damage that porn does to people today. Porn leads to objectification which causes those previously mentioned issues to become more normalized in modern society.
Weird, stuff like thinking spousal rape and marrying children is no biggie seems to be most common in hyper-conservative communities that are also vehemently against porn.

Doesn't stop the men in those communities from being porn addicts in between abusing their wives and kids, but still.

I don't think a drawing of anime tiddies or schlocky bodice ripper smut novel is the reason some people think women are roombas with fleshlights taped to them.
 
But I'm seriously wondering why he didn't answer my question. What did he mean? Handjob? Friend video taped him while he mastubated? Both? Something else entirely? What did he mean by this?
If it was a chick, could be as simple as being naked in front of him... in which case why aren't you having sex? Or it's his homie that jerked him off, which assuming he's straight... bruh. That was your friend's hand. How desperate were you?
 
Doesn't stop the men in those communities from being porn addicts in between abusing their wives and kids, but still.
It’s almost as if the porn might exacerbate it…?
I don't think a drawing of anime tiddies or schlocky bodice ripper smut novel is the reason some people think women are roombas with fleshlights taped to them.
No one said that. The argument is that the availability of live action hardcore pornography (and hentai to an extent) seems to have an overall negative impact on society. If you have teenage boys who’s only experience with sexuality is seeing women being sexually degraded on streaming porn sites, it’s going to warp their view of sexuality and women. The sudden steep rise of incels and AGP pervs coincides with the sharp rise in the usage of sites like Pornhub, as does the proliferation of more extreme porn.

There’s a vast difference between a housewife reading smutty novels and a dude jerking it all day to videos of women being treated like cattle.
 
It’s almost as if the porn might exacerbate it…?

No one said that. The argument is that the availability of live action hardcore pornography (and hentai to an extent) seems to have an overall negative impact on society. If you have teenage boys who’s only experience with sexuality is seeing women being sexually degraded on streaming porn sites, it’s going to warp their view of sexuality and women. The sudden steep rise of incels and AGP pervs coincides with the sharp rise in the usage of sites like Pornhub, as does the proliferation of more extreme porn.

There’s a vast difference between a housewife reading smutty novels and a dude jerking it all day to videos of women being treated like cattle.
Or that claiming porn is the day-vil does nothing to stop abuse when you subscribe to a worldview that involves women being treated as subhuman. Plus it makes porn a forbidden fruit the men have no ability to deal with in a healthy way.

If a teen boy only has porn as an experience with sexuality, that's both a parenting fail for not monitoring/restricting the internet use of their sprog, and a societal fail for not providing comprehensive, age-appropriate sex ed that includes material about consent and how porn isn't realistic.

I'm not sure how written porn is somehow less extreme than other types, especially when written porn contains plenty of shit with hardcore BDSM and shit like that. The issue isn't written vs. visual but rather consumption to a healthy level that doesn't impact someone's ability to function vs. addiction (as well as abuse and exploitation issues with live-action porn).
 
Or that claiming porn is the day-vil does nothing to stop abuse when you subscribe to a worldview that involves women being treated as subhuman. Plus it makes porn a forbidden fruit the men have no ability to deal with in a healthy way.
Porn is a symptom of a society that treats women as subhuman, disposable commodities, the reason it’s so popular with these types of men is because it reaffirms their belief that women only exist for their gaze. You shouldn’t defend a medium that exists to exacerbate a problem that already exists, even if it’s only contributing a tiny bit to the degeneracy, it shouldn’t be defended. Men don’t need any ‘outlets’ for degenerate thoughts, those outlets only serve to reinforce and ingrain bad behavior. As a man I can say that if any dude says his balls are going to explode unless he looks at boobs, he’s lying lol.
If a teen boy only has porn as an experience with sexuality, that's both a parenting fail for not monitoring/restricting the internet use of their sprog, and a societal fail for not providing comprehensive, age-appropriate sex ed that includes material about consent and how porn isn't realistic.
Part of having a healthy society is protecting kids from things that can harm them until their brains are developed enough to understand the consequences, because as I’ve said, kids can find a way to go behind their parents’ backs. They always have and always will. We put so many barriers up to restrict the sale of alcohol and tobacco, why not adult material as well? Adding an extra layer of security where someone has to verify their age with photo ID is a reasonable request of porn sites. Sometimes parents are retarded, and unfortunately, society has to step up to help protect vulnerable individuals. Sex Ed isn’t going to stop kids anymore than D.A.R.E. kept them from smoking weed.
I'm not sure how written porn is somehow less extreme than other types, especially when written porn contains plenty of shit with hardcore BDSM and shit like that. The issue isn't written vs. visual but rather consumption to a healthy level that doesn't impact someone's ability to function vs. addiction (as well as abuse and exploitation issues with live-action porn).
Live action porn effects the brain differently than written porn, more dopamine is released and neuroscientists have stated that the brain literally can not tell the difference between real sex and visual porn. That being said, I’ve rarely heard of people becoming addicted to erotic novels.
 
Part of having a healthy society is protecting kids from things that can harm them until their brains are developed enough to understand the consequences, because as I’ve said, kids can find a way to go behind their parents’ backs. They always have and always will. We put so many barriers up to restrict the sale of alcohol and tobacco, why not adult material as well? Adding an extra layer of security where someone has to verify their age with photo ID is a reasonable request of porn sites. Sometimes parents are retarded, and unfortunately, society has to step up to help protect vulnerable individuals. Sex Ed isn’t going to stop kids anymore than D.A.R.E. kept them from smoking weed.
Would you support those requirements to use this site, which is also 18+?
 
Would you support those requirements to use this site, which is also 18+?
No, for the following reasons:
1.) This site is actually moderated and bans under age users.
2.) The intention of this site is not to disseminate pornography. If porn is hosted on the Farms it is to relay the abject degeneracy of individuals who are actual threats to minors.
3.) I’m not saying all 18+ sites use such restrictive measures, rather that those that specifically specialize in pornographic content carry heavier restrictions. You get ID’d in GA if you were to walk into a porno shop, why is it an insane concept in regards to adult streaming sites?
 
No, for the following reasons:
1.) This site is actually moderated and bans under age users.
2.) The intention of this site is not to disseminate pornography. If porn is hosted on the Farms it is to relay the abject degeneracy of individuals who are actual threats to minors.
3.) I’m not saying all 18+ sites use such restrictive measures, rather that those that specifically specialize in pornographic content carry heavier restrictions. You get ID’d in GA if you were to walk into a porno shop, why is it an insane concept in regards to adult streaming sites?
You don't think increased restrictions for porn sites would be used against this site? One of the most challenged sites on the internet?
 
Unpopular opinion, but I just want to say that I always found the term semen retention to be on the same kind of newspeak as “therapy speak” or “self care”. I don’t think I’ve seen people use these kinds of words in every day or personal conversation.
 
I noticed how one person complained on the subreddit that the Drake album cover (Her Loss is the one in question) made him masturbate thus relapsing his whatever streak. I just thought it was a weird album cover.
 
You don't think increased restrictions for porn sites would be used against this site? One of the most challenged sites on the internet?
There in lies the problem. In a perfect world we could have sensible restrictions, and indeed, it’s possible to do. Such restrictions are already present on gambling websites, for example. The problem is that people are shitty, and shitty people use sensible restrictions as a jumping platform to other, more nefarious things. It’s also pretty much impossible to enforce fully with VPNs, but that’s a little more effort than the average kid living at home is willing to put in. If porn specific sites were forced to use a .xxx domain then it would help a lot and separate sites like Twitter, Reddit, or the Farms who aren’t specifically adult, but host adult material, from being lumped into the same category. Plus it would help parents using filtering apps.

At the end of the day the powers that be will use any excuse to censor The Farms, and other ‘challenging’ sites like ED or lolcow.

There could be a whole debate on what constitutes speech vs obscenity and how the government should act in regards to censorship. But we are diverging from the topic of dudes who think they gain magical powers from not cumming in six months.
 
You don't think increased restrictions for porn sites would be used against this site? One of the most challenged sites on the internet?
„You might want to raise your kids in a less sick society, but wouldn’t that mean shitposting here could be a bit harder?“ :tomgirl:

That really is your best response to someone explaining to you in detail how the porn industry is actively destroying the collective mental and physical well-being of multiple generations?
You are the prime example of early porn exposure making people retarded. Zero self reflection, grasping at straws.

Nigga I don’t give a fuck. I would just start reading books on the shitter instead of scrolling my phone if KF went down. Would probably do me, you and all of us on the individual level more good than harm.

Don’t get me wrong, I love null and witnessing him stand up to deranged tranny freaks has been a privilege.
At the same time I would be completely fine with all porn facing the same troubles as kiwifarms - deindexed from search engines, completely demonetised, bank accounts and payment providers cancelled, ISPs denying routing, domains and hosting getting cancelled, etc.
We could reduce access greatly without causing more harm to KF simply by doing what is already being done to KF to porn sites.

Do you understand that? We could basically eradicate 95% of porn overnight by these steps. By doing what is already being done to KF. Without any harm to KF because this is already happening to us.
 
# of dicks non-masturbators are playing with: 0
# of dicks you are playing with: at least 1

The gay accusations sound like projection :story:
its gay to talk about it. i mean if they were trying to come up with health benefits for it itd be alright. but theyve found none. but they talk like its good and like go to each other and around everywhere talking about it. theyre talking about what? dicks and cooming. its gay. there are no health benefits from it that theyve found and if they did talk about it trying to find benefits itd be different. but isntead they make up stuff about it, imagine, thinking about it that much. and they just talk about it, online. UGHH. imagine having their social media connected to it. do they do this with social media accounts? HOly shit i cant even imagine thinking that much about it to write a book of fiction about it. then actually posting it for others to see.
 
Just because societal ills exist in other spheres does not justify the damage that porn does to people today. Porn leads to objectification which causes those previously mentioned issues to become more normalized in modern society.
I'm fairly sure that porn addiction may lead to becoming a gooner, which is leagues worse than being someone addicted to roleplaying as a 1700's puritan.
I think that what these people lack is a balance doctrine, they must extremise everything.

Oh, you need to cut down meat intake? "GO FULL VEGAN!"; or alternatively: "eat the bug's shit"
You want to exercise a bit? GO FULL GYM BRO, NEVER STOP, NOT EVEN IN YOUR SLEEP.
Watched a pornographic movie? NEVER STOP JERKING OFF!
Want to stop for a while? NEVER JERK OFF IN YOUR LIFE EVER AGAIN inshallah, this ramadan will never end for you
Have a quarter-life or mid-life crisis? either go full r/atheist, become a jihadist\jehovah witness or become one of those IFLS nutcases.
 
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