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Lone MacReady II said:
What's really the draw of the Switch 2 at the end of the day? I've been thinking. I highly suspect Metroid Prime 4 (the only upcoming game I give a shit about) will be a multi-platform launch window title for Switch 2. Yet, I haven't really seen anything official (or leaked for that matter) to make me "excited" for Switch 2 at all. It's clearly an iterative console, Nintendo printed more fiat than the FED ponzi these last 8 years, so I didn't expect Wii waggle 2.0 or the second coming of the virtual boy... but what actually IS there with Switch 2 to get me in the door? Backwards compatibility is very nice, but I see nothing of the horizon besides MP4.

Nintendo clearly going the iterative route means they have to go as hard as possible on new games, at least that's what I'm hoping. But, I can't think of anything besides 3D Mario or the mythic FE4 remake that would even get me to look in Switch 2's direction. I care not about online, for the most part, and I already have all the best classic games on all the best emulators for free, so I give a fuck about the VC. I'm not paying for subscriptions anymore. The games I have on my Switch are all Mario and Metroid aside from the ringer Unicorn Overlord earlier this year. There aren't many 3rd party releases I could speculate about, which only makes the content well drier.

When I think about how we've been playing games on this type of hardware since 2017... by the end of the Switch 2's life we'll be at like 15 years of playing games "the Switch way". Could you imagine playing an N64 for 15 years? With the economy grinding to a halt, even I am struggling to find a consoomer excuse to buy a Switch 2...
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Honestly the real draw of the switch 2 is that we have to wait for it to release before Nintendo starts releasing games I care about again.
 
The real draw of the Switch 2 is watching nintendrones mass suicide when it becomes Wii U 2.0 and Nintendo exits the console market
 
Celebrate Nite said:
You say that like it's a bad thing
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Two Dollars said:
I've been playing my N64 a lot longer than that :smug:
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Not badmouthing the console or the games, since I also mentioned emulation. I love me some Star Fox 64. But you get my point, We'll be playing games with the same controller format and likely the same middling Switch U/I and likely the same dodgy Nintendo Online. There's no "spice" in Switch 2 so far, the leaks are so average and expected, everything is quite par for the course.
Dr. Ricearoni said:
Honestly the real draw of the switch 2 is that we have to wait for it to release before Nintendo starts releasing games I care about again.
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With all the leaks getting more and more aggressive I think it's safe to assume the Switch 2 will be out before September. If something like Prime 4 doesn't get an upgrade when being played on Switch 2, it's gonna take Nintendo going 2007 again to get me to buy a Switch 2 this year... I'm talking Mario, Zelda, Metroid, and new Smash waiting in the wings.
 
Will they make first party games that actually make use of the motion controls instead of just ports from other platforms? The switch still feels like a handheld Wii and the actualization of what the Wii U set out to be, but the majority of its catalogue is just ports and indie shovelware that are made for traditional controllers only. Was expecting MP4 to do that but didn't see anything about it so far.

At that point you really are just better off emulating or buying steam ports and playing on a handheld PC as you can do a lot more with that out of the box than you can with an unmodded switch.

Fuck paying for Nintendo Online and its spotty selection of emulators and games. Why the hell would I pay a monthly fee to play N64's rogue squadron when it has a PC port released forever ago that costs about the same as a month of nintendo online AND runs better than the original game and works with modern controllers and actually has rebindable controls? Nintendont wouldnt even consider it and just give up half way to making it work with modern controllers and still leave it capped at 30 FPS. Unacceptable. Another W for handheld PCs.
 
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Lone MacReady II said:
Yet, I haven't really seen anything official (or leaked for that matter) to make me "excited" for Switch 2 at all. It's clearly an iterative console, Nintendo printed more fiat than the FED ponzi these last 8 years, so I didn't expect Wii waggle 2.0 or the second coming of the virtual boy... but what actually IS there with Switch 2 to get me in the door?
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The specs are considerably better, such as the tripled RAM, and a faster CPU which should keep games from running at below 30 FPS, and more often at 60 FPS (not every game). If the GPU is sextupled from 256 Maxwell cores to 1,536 Ampere cores (maybe it's less), that's a big jump. But more importantly it enables DLSS support which is a good crutch for handhelds to use. Faking 1080p lowers power consumption, and you get fake 4K for your TV.

If gaming hardware has hit a plateau, the original underpowered Switch hadn't reached the plateau, while this one does. It should be much easier to port new games to it. The Xbox Series S and its consequences are great for Nintendo.
 
Lone MacReady II said:
Not badmouthing the console or the games, since I also mentioned emulation. I love me some Star Fox 64. But you get my point, We'll be playing games with the same controller format and likely the same middling Switch U/I and likely the same dodgy Nintendo Online. There's no "spice" in Switch 2 so far, the leaks are so average and expected, everything is quite par for the course.

With all the leaks getting more and more aggressive I think it's safe to assume the Switch 2 will be out before September. If something like Prime 4 doesn't get an upgrade when being played on Switch 2, it's gonna take Nintendo going 2007 again to get me to buy a Switch 2 this year... I'm talking Mario, Zelda, Metroid, and new Smash waiting in the wings.
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I'm ready for the next smash game already, if only because the reveal trailers caused the funniest fuckin discourse.
 
Lone MacReady II said:
Not badmouthing the console or the games, since I also mentioned emulation. I love me some Star Fox 64. But you get my point, We'll be playing games with the same controller format and likely the same middling Switch U/I and likely the same dodgy Nintendo Online. There's no "spice" in Switch 2 so far, the leaks are so average and expected, everything is quite par for the course.
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I get what you mean; Nintendo consoles historically have new gimmicks that make you reevaluate what games can be, but now it looks like they’re taking the Sony/Microsoft approach of “just make a more powerful version of the old system”.

That being said, we still don’t know what that C button is. If it’s “Cast” like many have speculated, it could have some interesting potential for dual-screen games; which isn’t a new gimmick per-se, but still something the Switch didn’t have. There’s also speculation from leaks that you’ll be able to hold a joycon on its side and use it as a mouse, which sounds dumb and highly situational to me, but I guess it’s something.
Lone MacReady II said:
it's gonna take Nintendo going 2007 again to get me to buy a Switch 2 this year... I'm talking Mario, Zelda, Metroid, and new Smash waiting in the wings.
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Oh that’s definitely not happening. Sakurai is working on a new game right now that’s all but confirmed to not be Smash, so the best you could hope for is maybe a definitive edition of the latest game made by some other director. A Smash Ultimate Ultimate, if you will.
 
Lone MacReady II said:
What's really the draw of the Switch 2 at the end of the day?
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Basically, hardly much of anything beyond the trickle of first-party content that half of us will bitch about. But speaking of Smash, the series might be doomed since Sakurai had retired...Or it could be something that isn't primarily and online game, though
 
Lone MacReady II said:
Not badmouthing the console or the games, since I also mentioned emulation. I love me some Star Fox 64. But you get my point, We'll be playing games with the same controller format and likely the same middling Switch U/I and likely the same dodgy Nintendo Online. There's no "spice" in Switch 2 so far, the leaks are so average and expected, everything is quite par for the course.

With all the leaks getting more and more aggressive I think it's safe to assume the Switch 2 will be out before September. If something like Prime 4 doesn't get an upgrade when being played on Switch 2, it's gonna take Nintendo going 2007 again to get me to buy a Switch 2 this year... I'm talking Mario, Zelda, Metroid, and new Smash waiting in the wings.
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Joycons practically have the same button layout as a PS2 so really it was already 15 years old in 2017. And yet Switch will be the most popular dedicated gaming device of all time when it finally ceases production. Almost like controller gimmicks aren't the be all and end all of games consoles.
 
NerdShamer said:
Basically, hardly much of anything beyond the trickle of first-party content that half of us will bitch about. But speaking of Smash, the series might be doomed since Sakurai had retired...Or it could be something that isn't primarily and online game, though
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He unretired last year to begin work on an unannounced game, likely Smash 6.
 
Big Switch2 leak just happen.. this console has got to be the worst kept secret in gaming history :story:



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Lone MacReady II said:
What's really the draw of the Switch 2 at the end of the day?
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In May 2024, Hamster announced ACA2 Neo Geo[c] for PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X/S. Main features of standard ACA2 Neo Geo games include Time Attack and Network (online play) modes. Users who previously purchased ACA Neo Geo titles on PlayStation 4 and Xbox One receive a discount on the purchase of ACA2 Neo Geo titles.[4]
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Nintendo needs ACA2 Neo Geo or they might as well close their shutters and wait for the vultures.
 
Lone MacReady II said:
What's really the draw of the Switch 2 at the end of the day? I've been thinking. I highly suspect Metroid Prime 4 (the only upcoming game I give a shit about) will be a multi-platform launch window title for Switch 2. Yet, I haven't really seen anything official (or leaked for that matter) to make me "excited" for Switch 2 at all. It's clearly an iterative console, Nintendo printed more fiat than the FED ponzi these last 8 years, so I didn't expect Wii waggle 2.0 or the second coming of the virtual boy... but what actually IS there with Switch 2 to get me in the door? Backwards compatibility is very nice, but I see nothing of the horizon besides MP4.

Nintendo clearly going the iterative route means they have to go as hard as possible on new games, at least that's what I'm hoping. But, I can't think of anything besides 3D Mario or the mythic FE4 remake that would even get me to look in Switch 2's direction. I care not about online, for the most part, and I already have all the best classic games on all the best emulators for free, so I give a fuck about the VC. I'm not paying for subscriptions anymore. The games I have on my Switch are all Mario and Metroid aside from the ringer Unicorn Overlord earlier this year. There aren't many 3rd party releases I could speculate about, which only makes the content well drier.

When I think about how we've been playing games on this type of hardware since 2017... by the end of the Switch 2's life we'll be at like 15 years of playing games "the Switch way". Could you imagine playing an N64 for 15 years? With the economy grinding to a halt, even I am struggling to find a consoomer excuse to buy a Switch 2...
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The Switch successfully spawned a new genre of personal computers, with the Steam Deck and the handheld PCs from Asus, Lenovo and more coming out to compete with it. It's probably closer to the NES then the N64, with the Switch 2 being the SNES. Maybe it won't sell as much as the original Switch, but it will still be a popular handheld - especially if it's powerful enough to pull more exclusives from other systems.

I'm wondering what Sony does, as they have a decent back catalogue of games that would be the same market as Nintendo players but locked behind a bigger and more expensive console.
 
You know what bother's me about the switch specifically? The quality of games that are on this thing.

Outside of 1st parties (which even then have become questionable over time), the Switch really doesn't have anything else going for it. Almost all of the 3rd party stuff have better versions on PC (i.e. not censored, can be modded, etc...) or are mobile-tier shovelware.

The reason why past consoles were successful is because the software for them were plentiful. The quality, even during the DS/Wii era, was top notch. You really can't say the same thing for the Switch when the PC beats this thing 10 to 1.
 
Celebrate Nite said:
You know what bother's me about the switch specifically? The quality of games that are on this thing.

Outside of 1st parties (which even then have become questionable over time), the Switch really doesn't have anything else going for it. Almost all of the 3rd party stuff have better versions on PC (i.e. not censored, can be modded, etc...) or are mobile-tier shovelware.

The reason why past consoles were successful is because the software for them were plentiful. The quality, even during the DS/Wii era, was top notch. You really can't say the same thing for the Switch when the PC beats this thing 10 to 1.
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So you think the Switch2 will be a repeat of the WiiU?..
 
Betonhaus said:
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They could release a portable PS4 today but, since they don't have the manpower to support new PS4 games it would have no first party exclusives going forward and that is a kiss of death for a gaming device. More likely they release a portable PS5 in a few years, but at a prohibitively expensive price. Afterall, the Portal has consistently sold well for the last year and a half.
 
Celebrate Nite said:
You know what bother's me about the switch specifically? The quality of games that are on this thing.

Outside of 1st parties (which even then have become questionable over time), the Switch really doesn't have anything else going for it. Almost all of the 3rd party stuff have better versions on PC (i.e. not censored, can be modded, etc...) or are mobile-tier shovelware.

The reason why past consoles were successful is because the software for them were plentiful. The quality, even during the DS/Wii era, was top notch. You really can't say the same thing for the Switch when the PC beats this thing 10 to 1.
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What ? DS and especially Wii were nearly exclusively shovelware from third parties. To each his own, I suppose, but you're opinion was definitely not in the majority for Nintendo fans in the Wii's lifetime when Nintendo was shitting out that ravi drums E3 against PS3 and 360 games- western gaming at its absolute apex while Japan was in a nadir.
 
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