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Anonitolia said:
I would be concerned that this means it's 10+ years out of date on release, but I'm gonna be honest you don't need graphics better than those consoles' so this isn't a huge issue.
the PS5 and Xbox whatever-it-is-now (Series X? Series S?) are totally useless in the graphics department, there's almost no improvement with them compared to PS4/XB1 imo. Certainly not enough to matter beyond autistic comparison videos or extremely nitpicky people. So just hearing "it's good enough to have some really damn good graphics" is good enough for me.

Let's just hope any successor's load speeds are faster than those two pieces of shit were lol.
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More power doesn't have to equal higher resolutions, though; it also means being able to handle lower resolutions more consistently, which is important when even first party games are struggling to run. I think at the very least, a Switch 2 needs to be able to handle anything that's thrown at it at 1080p60, no questions asked (same goes for portable mode; 720p60 for everything). And it should at least have the capacity to push up to 4K, even if most games only go up to 1440p. Basically, almost on par with a Series S in terms of power.
 
Two Dollars said:
More power doesn't have to equal higher resolutions, though; it also means being able to handle lower resolutions more consistently, which is important when even first party games are struggling to run. I think at the very least, a Switch 2 needs to be able to handle anything that's thrown at it at 1080p60, no questions asked (same goes for portable mode; 720p60 for everything). And it should at least have the capacity to push up to 4K, even if most games only go up to 1440p. Basically, almost on par with a Series S in terms of power.
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I agree on everything save for the 4K thing
4K is such a boring gimmick, it's so useless. I'd be more than happy with just 1080, and over the moon with 1440.
 
Two Dollars said:
More power doesn't have to equal higher resolutions, though; it also means being able to handle lower resolutions more consistently, which is important when even first party games are struggling to run. I think at the very least, a Switch 2 needs to be able to handle anything that's thrown at it at 1080p60, no questions asked (same goes for portable mode; 720p60 for everything). And it should at least have the capacity to push up to 4K, even if most games only go up to 1440p. Basically, almost on par with a Series S in terms of power.
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I don't think 4k is that important. Very few people have 4k televisions or monitors, and most people probably can't notice the difference. The real thing the Switch 2 needs to do is be able to maintain a stable 60 frames per second at its resolutions (1080p for docked, 720p for handheld, assuming it is still a hybrid). If it did that, it would probably be good enough. 1440p would be a nice thing to have, though unlikely.
 
I wonder what it will actually compare to, the Steam Deck is a custom SOC and clocks somewhere between the PS4 and the PS4 Pro, but its also 100 dollars more than the Switch (for the base model). I would hope that the Switch 2 would have back compat with Switch games, but that would probably mean including an X1 on board the chip. I don't think any game will actually run above 1080p, but they will probably add proper 4k output. PS4 Pro didn't even really have any native 4k games, they all either ran at 1440p or checkerboarded 4k, something at base PS4 level wouldn't be able to really go above 1080p outside of 2d stuff without compromises.

The big question is battery life, if its still a portable. Steam Deck only has 6 or 7 hours at 5 watts, and 2 or 3 hours playing more intensive games at higher wattage, all those Steam Deck competitors are more powerful but have even worse battery life. I wonder if Nintendo will try and do anything for battery or what, maybe they could include optional 30fps limit for games if things are running at 60fps in handheld, since even just that can save a lot of life. Obviously they won't include clock speed settings for users, but modders will add those in, since they did for the Switch. Lets hope there's another unpatchable exploit, but its unlikely.
 
The Demon Pimp of Razgriz said:
I don't think 4k is that important. Very few people have 4k televisions or monitors, and most people probably can't notice the difference. The real thing the Switch 2 needs to do is be able to maintain a stable 60 frames per second at its resolutions (1080p for docked, 720p for handheld, assuming it is still a hybrid). If it did that, it would probably be good enough. 1440p would be a nice thing to have, though unlikely.
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4k TV sets are common, they've been the standard TV set you'll see when you go shopping for one for several years now. Very little actually takes advantage of the full 4K, though, and even visually intensive stuff that benefits from higher resolutions still looks pretty much the same from an upscaled 1080p source. I never hear about anyone who actually cares about 4k outside of enthusiast circles, and there aren't even that many things at all that take advantage of such a high resolution. PS5, Xbox Series X (but not S), and, uh... higher-end computers? Though even PCs with a decent but older GPU that can still run just about anything on medium specs still don't have the fill rate to keep up with 4K displays, so you end up at the mercy of your scaler.

The world would be a lot better if resolutions stopped increasing at about 1440p, and all focus was put towards frame rates. Hearing about modern games shooting for 4k30 is just, what the fuck? 30fps gaming in the Year of our Lord 2023? Games aren't movies, get the fuck outta here with that shit.
 
I stand by the fact that 4K makes games look worse for the most part. I never noticed so many shitty LOD textures and models until I started using a 4K TV for gaming. And it wasn't even a high end 4K TV so I can only imagine how much shittier they would have looked then.

Maybe it's because I try to actively avoid the most linear and cinematic of goyslop though. But it's why I say it's for niggers and retards because I'm pretty sure they're too stupid to even notice an actual difference. They just keep buying newer 4K tv's and consoles just like they do with the newest iPhone and Smart Watches and shit like that. Hell, I worked with a retard that bought a PS5 and kept going on and on about it being 4K even though he didn't own a 4K TV.

So when I see people say Nintendo needs to get with the times and go 4K it just boggles my fucking mind. Especially if they are going to keep going with stylized artwork and a portable structure. Steady framerate, even at 30 fps, is way more important than that shit.
 

Nintendo Sees Potential In The Metaverse, But Thinks It Would Be 'Difficult'​

Q: Recently, the concept of the metaverse – where multiple unspecified users can play together in a shared virtual space – has emerged. What do you think about this?

Furukawa: Although the enthusiasm may not be as high as before, the metaverse continues to capture the attention of many companies around the world, and I think the concept has potential. But though we sense its potential, we also believe it will not be easy to clearly define what kinds of fun and surprises it can provide to consumers.
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We might consider something if we can find a way to express it with a Nintendo like approach – which is to say, one that is easily understood by many consumers – but I believe that this would be difficult at the present time.
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I'mma let a NL commenter take this one, because it's a spot-on take:
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Vyse Inglebard said:

Nintendo Sees Potential In The Metaverse, But Thinks It Would Be 'Difficult'​


I'mma let a NL commenter take this one, because it's a spot-on take:
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I mean, I hope that's what this is saying. It sounds like it. Nintendo has always been slow to adapt to change, so even if it's not what this statement means I doubt we'll be seeing any "Nintendo Metaverse" shit for like a decade regardless.


On the other hand, I refuse to keep my guard down seeing as Nintendo still does scummy things sometimes. Please don't make Metaverse shit. Please don't make Metaverse shit. Please don't make Metaverse shit.
 
Anonitolia said:
I mean, I hope that's what this is saying. It sounds like it. Nintendo has always been slow to adapt to change, so even if it's not what this statement means I doubt we'll be seeing any "Nintendo Metaverse" shit for like a decade regardless.


On the other hand, I refuse to keep my guard down seeing as Nintendo still does scummy things sometimes. Please don't make Metaverse shit. Please don't make Metaverse shit. Please don't make Metaverse shit.
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At best I see Nintendo reworking the Miis to have their own metaverse at home. Phone Games wee unpopular, so I don't see Nintendo putting much investment into other company's platforms.
 
Anonitolia said:
I would be concerned that this means it's 10+ years out of date on release, but I'm gonna be honest you don't need graphics better than those consoles' so this isn't a huge issue.
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It's not about the graphics, it's about the hardware. Switch owners coped for years saying that they don't care about the graphics (which is totally fine) but you can't have a Zelda in [current year] that is struggling in terms of framerate or possibilities.
 
Miller said:
It's not about the graphics, it's about the hardware. Switch owners coped for years saying that they don't care about the graphics (which is totally fine) but you can't have a Zelda in [current year] that is struggling in terms of framerate or possibilities.
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no, I think graphics are also a little relevant
I'm fine with the Switch's, but I do seriously think Nintendo needs to get up to date because right now they're so behind their competitors it's not even funny. It's getting to a point where it's an outright detriment to the console imo and any successor will need to improve on them somewhat (even the tiniest bit) to justify a purchase, at least from me.
And considering how big the Switch's installbase is, I might not be alone.

I do wholly agree that hardware should be prioritized though, by a lot. I am very sick of first-party titles hardly ever reaching 30fps by now, it's getting to be nauseating.
 
Miller said:
What does that even mean? The game is only on the Switch.
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"You can't have a Zelda in [current year] that is struggling in terms of framerate."

That's Tears of the Kingdom. It sold gangbusters.

Ergo, you can have a Zelda in current year that is struggling in terms of framerate.

Unless I'm just too sleepy to understand what you meant.
 
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Miller said:
What does that even mean? The game is only on the Switch.
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...what is even your point? it sold over 10 million copies, or about 8% of the number of all Switch consoles sold. And both are made by the same company, and Nintendo priced the switch so they make money on hardware sales (unlike sony or xbox which sells the console at a loss in the hopes that game sales offset that)
 
Are you guys kidding? Nintendo won't even do swap-note for fear of pedos, and you think they're going to make a metaverse?
 
whatever I feel like said:
Are you guys kidding? Nintendo won't even do swap-note for fear of pedos, and you think they're going to make a metaverse?
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If Nintendo can find a way to restrict what you can say or do then yeah. So they won't join anyone else's metaverse. They might try to make one, but it would likely just be an upgraded Mii system
 
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