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Mario Kart has such a universal appeal these days, doing something that might make it appear "too complex" and scare off normal people isn't going to/shouldn't happen.
 
What are the chances you guys reckon that the Switch successor might have backwards compatibility?

The console is still selling like hot cakes and the library is quite extensive, I would be very surprised if Nintendo goes down a future pathway that doesn't include a handheld/home console hybrid in its line up as that concept has paid off dividends for their profits, especially when you look at the Wii U in its final years and only just managed to outsell the dreamcast.

Reminds me of how the DS was a staple handheld more than any other in the market and they wanted to support its ecosystem still with the 3DS and its ability to play DS games not just on the cartridge but downloaded on the eshop as well.

I ask this since we are at this weird console transition phase where they should have some sort of "advanced" model or a new console announcement (which is a big maybe?).
 
Double Dash may have been experimental, but I appreciate it overall and it didn't really go too far with the concept that it ended up being way off formula.

By comparison it could have been a complete shit show with the tag mechanics like Crash Tag Team Racing. Bumming a ride off some nearby car, blow up 4 people then fling yourself ahead of the kart your just bummed off of was imbalanced as shit.

Outside of wii bikes and DS snaking nothing really goes too crazy outside of being certain games signature quirks
 
Flavius Anthemius said:
What are the changes you guys reckon that the Switch successor might have backwards compatibility?
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I say it's backwards compatible but it'll still be another Wii U fiasco. It'll be too similar to the Switch, they'll give it a similar name, and the hardware improvements won't be enough to draw in fans. It will take 2+ years for them to get any good exclusive titles on it. People will upgrade reluctantly to play new Mario but a lot of people will be happy with their large library of Switch games especially since many early Switch 2 titles were also released on Switch.
 
Basic Blonde Boy said:
The concept just has too many drawbacks for Nintendo to want to evolve at this point. The need for a large character roster pretty much killed the concept for any portable device prior to Switch. There is also the duo concept in which characters need a partner, and more diverse rosters make it hard to pair characters with a compliment. The unique items also create more work on developers that could probably go elsewhere.

The two characters would also affect kart design given you need a back for the second player, which who knows how that would work nowadays given you have to factor in 12 karts on a track, a glider, and the bikes/atvs. With all the new mechanics of Mario Kart since Double Dash, it might be impossible to go back while maintaining the current features. Given that Double Dash is a polarizing entry, I don't see a reason why Nintendo should.
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None of those seem like they can't be worked around. The biggest issue would be kart design, but they let you customize your kart now anyway. Simply have the two-man vehicles be an option with either it's own separate mode or just another option with it's own upsides and downsides.

Maybe it's not likely to happen, but nobody expected double items to return either after skipping like 4-5 games.

I don't know where you're getting that DD was polarizing, as it's the second best selling game for NGC and scored pretty well, I never met anyone who disliked it (although, it usually isn't anyone's favorite, but that isn't "polarizing").

whatever I feel like said:
Mario Kart has such a universal appeal these days, doing something that might make it appear "too complex" and scare off normal people isn't going to/shouldn't happen.
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I feel like that's the most damning thing against its return. I don't know why Nintendo dumbs down games instead of just giving players options.

When they gimped Brawl it was baffling, because it's not like anybody has a gun to player's heads, "1v1, Fox only, no items, Final Destination, or I'll paint the fuckin' walls". You can crank items up and play with 4 Pichus on Pokefloats if you want to, player choice was its strength.
 
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Scarlett Johansson said:
I still think they should add Pauline to Mario Kart 8
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Pauline was certainly a big deal when she showed up in Mario Kart Tour, and aside from clones and variants she was one of the only few new characters in Mario Kart Tour for ages, since Nintendo still seem keen on milking Mario Kart 8, I suppose it's not impossible for them to add even more DLC down the line, but they may just be saving her for the next instalment, if that ever happens...
 
Mega Man 2 Intro - NES said:
Imagine if Wario and Waluigi get girlfriends, that's even more characters for Nintendo to not add to games.
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Wario and Waluigi don't even have their own game still.

whatever I feel like said:
There's no way it isn't. Nintendo has ALWAYS been pro-BC, even if they haven't been able to physically pull it off. And since the cart format hasn't held them back at all they will surely keep it.
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Except it has, you have games on the switch that don't work without a digital download because the cart can't fit all the data.
 
Marissa Moira said:
Except it has, you have games on the switch that don't work without a digital download because the cart can't fit all the data.
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True. Also, the carts themselves are expensive to manufacture, thus, many companies forego using the bigger carts or two carts to fit larger games. Most modern open world games will either not fit on the carts at all, or will only do so after very tight compression. Many companies just won't bother.
 
Nauseated Courgi said:
Wario has two series of popular games. Waluigi is the only one with nothing to his name.
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I mean a stand alone game that features both of them at once.

The MCU is getting canonical 90's X-Men before Wario and Waluigi are seen together in their own game.
 
The Demon Pimp of Razgriz said:
True. Also, the carts themselves are expensive to manufacture, thus, many companies forego using the bigger carts or two carts to fit larger games. Most modern open world games will either not fit on the carts at all, or will only do so after very tight compression. Many companies just won't bother.
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You might be right about the manufacture costs but it seems to me to be more a case of certain publishers acting greedy (Capcom's early releases as the most notorious example) rather than an actual issue with the physical format itself. Projekt Red could fill over 30GB of game files of the Witcher 3 inside a Switch cartridge just like Sony Music/Aniplex with the Tsukihime remake (which is 20GB big). There also are many digital-only games on Switch, regardless of the filesize, such as the Serious Sam Collection I've been playing as seen from my previous posts.

As for me, I only bother with physicals for large games of over 10GB, preferably long single-player titles. Or sometimes in certain conditions, such as the cartridge being awfully much cheaper than the digital release (this happened to me with Astral Chain) or exclusive content on cartridge (Blaster Master Zero Collection with its voice-acting or Super Robot Wars T Premium Anime Sound Edition). I'm not into collection autism though, just buying games I do want to play.

Digital is a lot more convenient for handheld systems. Like swapping easily to a rhythm/puzzle/shmup for short burst sessions, or local multiplayer games without having to bring specific game cards with me.

Edit: I have no doubt the next Nintendo console would be backwards-compatible. I assume digital content may be handled just like the Playstation Vita shared the download list with the PSP
 

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BananaSplit said:
There also are many digital-only games on Switch, regardless of the filesize, such as the Serious Sam Collection I've been playing as seen from my previous posts.
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The problem with digital is that you then run into the Switch's limited onboard storage, and lack of compatibility with external hard drives (which even the Wii U could do at launch).
 
There's also stuff like the Kingdom hearts streaming games which you pay for but then own zero of the data and everything is dependent on square keeping the servers up just so you can actually play the game.
 
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