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Tuxedo_Zemus said:
On the bright side, they might take this reaction seriously. Nintendo has responded to backlash in the past, I remember when they dropped the price of the 3DS and Iwata came out and made a public apology.

Otherwise I don't see this being very profitable for them. This is costing them nothing, and there are only so many consoomers out there.
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Its worth pointing out that the 3DS's issues were not the same

When the 3DS launched. There was maybe 2 decent launch titles unless you counted the DoA game and Street Fighter IV port. After launch there was a big fat nothing for at least half a year plus.

So you start with small userbase because launch really only had Pilotwings and Nintendogs carrying it. Then those fans giving up on the system because nothing was worth waiting for.

People mostly remember the Ambassador Program and Iwatas wage cut which was mostly Nintendo realizing rushing new games out would make things worse but they needed something to keep people around. Then once the titles started showing, they had a bunch of "buy 2 upcoming titles and get the 3rd as a free eshop for a few years too.

With this Online upgrade. They are not really hurting with Switch right now. I wonder if we'll see more stuff added to the new Sub level prior or over time. But then with NES and SNES the updates have been slowwww - plus a lot of devs have been revising their old works lately. I imagine Square would rather have Pixel Remaster FF'S representing the classic series rather than the original rom releases. But if the hike means more third party retro releases. That would at least be something.
 
Product Placement said:
If they were going to pick a Sega console should have been dreamcast or saturn, something you can't already play most of the games on the switch already.
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Saturn emulation isn't as concrete as other systems. I'd imagine it would be a massive undertaking for stuff to work on the switch.

Especially since the saturn hardware and emulation community has a ton of stuff documented with all the issues that specific games have. Most people opt to softmod their saturns because PC emulation is still ass for it.
 
Marissa Moira said:
Saturn emulation isn't as concrete as other systems. I'd imagine it would be a massive undertaking for stuff to work on the switch.

Especially since the saturn hardware and emulation community has a ton of stuff documented with all the issues that specific games have. Most people opt to softmod their saturns because PC emulation is still ass for it.
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That is way outdated, Saturn on pc has been pretty good for a number of years now even on low spec laptops.

And this just happened
www.nintendolife.com

Hackers Have Cracked Open A Sega Saturn Emulator Inside A Commercial Switch Release

And it's surprisingly good
www.nintendolife.com www.nintendolife.com
 
Product Placement said:
That is way outdated, Saturn on pc has been pretty good for a number of years now even on low spec laptops.

And this just happened
www.nintendolife.com

Hackers Have Cracked Open A Sega Saturn Emulator Inside A Commercial Switch Release

And it's surprisingly good
www.nintendolife.com www.nintendolife.com
https://youtube.com/watch?v=eZO4p2CTI1M:130
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The Cotton games are all 2d I don't know how well that will transfer over to some of the 3d titles as far as emulation goes. I'm still waiting on my Saturn tribute to arrive since only the Cotton Reboot was the one that got a wide physical release in all regions(you'd be crazy to not get a $20 Cotton game).

It sounds promising and stuff like Guardian Heroes works, but then you get to stuff like Burning Rangers and I'd imagine that may be a bit more taxing for the later areas. I'm already seeing some flashing and texture jitter but the Saturn itself wasn't perfect to begin with.
 
Marissa Moira said:
The Cotton games are all 2d I don't know how well that will transfer over to some of the 3d titles as far as emulation goes. I'm still waiting on my Saturn tribute to arrive since only the Cotton Reboot was the one that got a wide physical release.

It sounds promising and stuff like Guardian Heroes could maybe work, but then you get to stuff like Burning Rangers and I'd imagine that may be a bit more taxing.
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The video I posted is that emu used for the Cotton games running 3d games on the switch. The guy made 7 videos testing out games, here another one


Like I said Saturn emulation has come a long way in the past 5 or so years, was even running on the switch before this however the results weren't as good as this.
 
Product Placement said:
The video I posted is that emu used for the Cotton games running 3d games on the switch. The guy made 7 videos testing out games, here another one
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Blrdh2wHmmg

Like I said Saturn emulation has come a long way in the past 5 or so years, was even running on the switch before this however the results weren't as good as this.
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I wish I found out about this a few days sooner because now I don't have time to actually test this myself to compare.

I've got my saturn hooked up to a trinitron CRT. So I think it would be fair if both were hooked up to comparable modern screens.
 
ForgedBlades said:
It's way more difficult to find ROMs these days than it used to be. I think that's why normies have a hard time with emulation.
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They're probably relying on the old internet knowledge of romsites despite no-intro and redump sets are the way to go these days.

Product Placement said:
If they were going to pick a Sega console should have been dreamcast or saturn, something you can't already play most of the games on the switch already.
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To be fair, the Sega Genesis/Megadrive Collection isn't a thing in Japan on Switch so I'm assuming the Megadrive being part of NSO is mainly aimed for the japanese userbase in the first place.

There isn't a whole lot of saturn games to propose for NSO once you discard the old adaptations of anime licenses (PSN missed a lot of those for PS1 Classics outside of SRW). And some of them are already on the Switch through ports (Eve Burst Error, Desire, Doukoku Soshite, Cotton Saturn Tribute, Grandia, several mahjong titles that are toned town from the original adult explicit rating) and remakes (Yu-No, the upcoming House of the Dead and Power Stone).

And like @RisingPhoenix said, publishers are more likely to individually release their old games on Switch rather than letting Nintendo do it. Konami, Capcom and Squeenix are the main examples so far. Sega could do the same as a sound business decision, such as a collection of the old Sakura Taisen games (similarly to the PSP release), the GC release of Eternal Arcadia with the soundwork of the Dreamcast version, etc.
 
Marissa Moira said:
Really? Since when did it play a proper and justified sequel to Thousand Year Door?


And don't say Bug Fables, a game about talking food isn't the same.
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You have to give bug fables more credit than that. It's genuinely a pretty solid spiritual successor to paper mario.

Also, I thought you are others of your type didn't want to eat bugs and live in pods.
 
Bug Fables was pretty decent.

Thousand Year Door's mechanics with a splash of Sticker Star's excellent action command system improvements would be great in a new game. But this is the company that can't make a Star Fox game, so...

Seriously how do you fuck up an arcade rail-shooter so many times?
 
NerdShamer said:
Honestly, rail shooters are kind of obsolete, nowadays, along with the possibility of ever getting a new flight sim for the Nintendo Switch.
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Yeah they are a hard sell unless it's one of already known series.

Flight Sims are entirely in the opposite direction though, where you need to keep having layers of content and specific gameplay systems to the point where you can easily rack up spending a couple hundred bucks for a single game. Trains Sims are the same.
 
ForgedBlades said:
It's way more difficult to find ROMs these days than it used to be. I think that's why normies have a hard time with emulation.
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Funny enough it's not as easy but it feels safer. Coolroms and Doperoms always felt like malware but these days I you can just download everything through redump and Alvro

Hell emuparadise still hosts the roms and you just need a tampermonkey script to get them.

Edit: you know what? In thinking about it, I think it might actually be easier to get roms since all you gotta do is go to /r/roms and check out their megathread.
 
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Marissa Moira said:
By realizing you can't charge $60 for an arcade shooter so they try to add other mechanics in for filler.
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Wrong.

NerdShamer said:
Honestly, rail shooters are kind of obsolete, nowadays, along with the possibility of ever getting a new flight sim for the Nintendo Switch.
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Double wrong.

Look here you two. Star Fox 64 has more depth and replayability than most modern games. And House of the Dead is fun as fuck. Gamers have gotten worse and accept lesser games as long as they have more useless junk. They even seem to want more junk; a game with 15 mediocre gameplay mechanics is objectively worse than a game with one excellent gameplay mechanic. It's all gone backwards as time went by.

I would pay 60 bucks for a real Star Fox game or a new Pilotwings game at the drop of a hat if it looked like they played to their strengths. Not many other people would though. Because they have no standards. I am not out of touch, the gamers are wrong.
 
Mike Stoklasa said:
I would pay 60 bucks for a real Star Fox game or a new Pilotwings game at the drop of a hat if it looked like they played to their strengths. Not many other people would though. Because they have no standards. I am not out of touch, the gamers are wrong.
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That's what I'm saying, most people here would but the general population wouldn't.
 
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