Nintendo Fanbase Stupidity General - Rants on the explosive fanbase

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Does Nintendo have a bad fanbase

  • Yes

    Votes: 915 93.2%
  • No

    Votes: 67 6.8%

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at least F-Zero's last game was almost perfect. . .

God it'd be so easy to just release a remaster of that Nintendo.
We're to the point where Konami does better re-releases of their old games than nintendo.

They were able to fit over 50 games on the Turbo GrafX 16 mini. And they're set to release more compilations of their older shit soon in physical format.
 
We're to the point where Konami does better re-releases of their old games than nintendo.

They were able to fit over 50 games on the Turbo GrafX 16 mini. And they're set to release more compilations of their older shit soon in physical format.
I get the feeling that Nintendo's board of directors thinks rereleasing old games will hurt the sales numbers of new ones.

Clearly they don't realize that if people like the 4 Zelda games on the switch so much, they'd probably be willing to shell out for the old ones. Hell, just port the TP/WW remasters from the wii u, it wouldn't take too much to do that.
 
I get the feeling that Nintendo's board of directors thinks rereleasing old games will hurt the sales numbers of new ones.

Clearly they don't realize that if people like the 4 Zelda games on the switch so much, they'd probably be willing to shell out for the old ones. Hell, just port the TP/WW remasters from the wii u, it wouldn't take too much to do that.
I think it is a bit more complicated than that. I think the issue may come down to consoles and communities more than sales.

I think it is nearly impossible to bring much over from the DS and Wii on a small budget as the controls will make it much harder to port. The DS’s two screens also make things difficult. The 3DS will also lack 3D. Unless they want to invest heavily, the past few consoles are an impossibility. The Wii U got lucky as most games do not utilize the gamepad.

As for GaneCube, I think Nintendo is just steering clear of the fanbase. Releasing Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door would be a risky move in the current climate. Melee is also contentious because, well, it is Melee, you know the reason Nintendo wants to forget it. A Sunshine release may clash with the rumored Mario 35th collection if it is real. Who knows what will happen with Wind Waker and Twilight Princess, as they can easily be brought back from Wii U. If those titles are off the table, then they likely see no reason to bring back others. Chibi-Robo is always going to get death. Mario Party will fight with current Mario Party, and so will Mario Sports. F-Zero is niche. Pikmin is in a weird middle ground that probably is not worth investing in. Animal Crossing is sort of dividing at the moment like FE and Paper Mario did, so? The Radiant games were poor sells and bashed by critics.

The only big ones are Metroid, which has been rumored for a Trilogy remake, and Kirby Air Ride. Neither were poor sells, have bad fanbases, will divide communities, or have possible remakes. The problem is, why not just remake them then?
 
I think it is a bit more complicated than that. I think the issue may come down to consoles and communities more than sales.

I think it is nearly impossible to bring much over from the DS and Wii on a small budget as the controls will make it much harder to port. The DS’s two screens also make things difficult. The 3DS will also lack 3D. Unless they want to invest heavily, the past few consoles are an impossibility. The Wii U got lucky as most games do not utilize the gamepad.

As for GaneCube, I think Nintendo is just steering clear of the fanbase. Releasing Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door would be a risky move in the current climate. Melee is also contentious because, well, it is Melee, you know the reason Nintendo wants to forget it. A Sunshine release may clash with the rumored Mario 35th collection if it is real. Who knows what will happen with Wind Waker and Twilight Princess, as they can easily be brought back from Wii U. If those titles are off the table, then they likely see no reason to bring back others. Chibi-Robo is always going to get death. Mario Party will fight with current Mario Party, and so will Mario Sports. F-Zero is niche. Pikmin is in a weird middle ground that probably is not worth investing in. Animal Crossing is sort of dividing at the moment like FE and Paper Mario did, so? The Radiant games were poor sells and bashed by critics.

The only big ones are Metroid, which has been rumored for a Trilogy remake, and Kirby Air Ride. Neither were poor sells, have bad fanbases, will divide communities, or have possible remakes. The problem is, why not just remake them then?
I will argue in favor of the Radiant games being possible because they don't really need much in terms of remastering. You'd just need to map the controls, touch up the graphics for HD, and add in the japan-only Maniac mode for Path of Radiance. It'd probably sell alright if they compiled the two games together AND marketed it properly given Ike's been a smash presence and whatnot.

The 3DS games I'm thinking of are mostly JRPGs. Alliance Alive got ported to the switch and it's a JRPG, which does speak to a higher possibility of these getting ported.

Yeah, JRPGs and Wii-U Zelda remasters aside, I do agree with your points. I'd also like to say that the Gamecube Wario game would probably be a crapshoot as well. I refuse to advocate for the Pokemon Gamecube games solely because nintendo really likes to not acknowledge them and it's kinda clear we won't be seeing those. As for more niche third party titles, that's also kind of a crapshoot too imo.

We did get a Super Monkey Ball game remastered for the switch, didn't we?
 
The Radiant games were poor sells and bashed by critics.

Path of Radiance came out in late 2005 when the next generation was starting with the 360 close by and the wii/ps3 projected for next year and the PS2 was a dominating force that has yet to be replicated in the console market (The closest was the original DS) for being the best selling console of all time. Even Tales of Symphonia jumped ship to the PS2 because you'd be an idiot not to try to put a JRPG (even an SRPG) on the PS2 back in that time period. Path of Radiance was generally well liked by few that actually played it. PoR has a metacritic score of 85 and Radiant Dawn has a 78.

Radiant Dawn is more bashed for being difficult at the start (PoR by comparison is brain dead easy even on hard), it was my first Fire Emblem when I was like 12 so it isn't impossibly difficult just rough for the first few chapters. Also it was released in NA just before Super Mario Galaxy in late Nov aka just before Christmas. Seriously who is going to buy a Strategy rpg for a game series that was still relatively unpopular over the next Mario game when the last big Mario game was what Sunshine 5 years ago during Christmas? Fire Emblem games were also marketed just shit back in the day, meanwhile Awakening had advertisements out the wazoo when it was coming out and when it was released while having exceptional timing within the Nintendo 3DS' life cycle. Seriously I got spammed ads for Awakening every day for months when it was the big thing.

Also Brawl was on the horizon within a few months of Radiant Dawn's release so Ike hadn't had his smash debut yet to make him stick out considering Ike was a casual favorite due to how easily he can kill people who weren't paying attention. The moral of the story is, Nintendo had really shit timing both times with Fire Emblem's first home console releases. Considering Ike according to Fire Emblem heroes is one of the most popular characters in the entire series even beating out Marth, Ike would probably be relatively popular if he was the lord of the newest Fire Emblem today.
 
I want to see what kind of division the Illumination Mario movie brings, because the theme park is taking stuff from the upcoming movie and canonizing it by having it be part of the park.

They're going to have different VA's for the movie and I'm also curious if that would translate into the games. I also want to see Wario restored to his original german heritage(Japanese version of mario kart 64 has wario spout German curses according to the original design document sheets so they hired a german guy to voice him).

japanese MK64 remains one of the few foreign games I got for the system. There's quite a lot of differences between that and the American version.
 
Been otherwise occupied this week but not surprised the Direct Mini was met with such a reaction. Personally I just thought to myself "That kind of sucked" and went about my day. Good example of Nintendo's toxic fanbase is r/NintendoSwitch on Reddit. Such an unfriendly place. Perfectly fine posts get downvoted for no reason and dissent from group think is a big no no. I'm a lifelong Nintendo fan but hell is other Nintendo fans.
 
Path of Radiance came out in late 2005 when the next generation was starting with the 360 close by and the wii/ps3 projected for next year and the PS2 was a dominating force that has yet to be replicated in the console market (The closest was the original DS) for being the best selling console of all time. Even Tales of Symphonia jumped ship to the PS2 because you'd be an idiot not to try to put a JRPG (even an SRPG) on the PS2 back in that time period. Path of Radiance was generally well liked by few that actually played it. PoR has a metacritic score of 85 and Radiant Dawn has a 78.

Radiant Dawn is more bashed for being difficult at the start (PoR by comparison is brain dead easy even on hard), it was my first Fire Emblem when I was like 12 so it isn't impossibly difficult just rough for the first few chapters. Also it was released in NA just before Super Mario Galaxy in late Nov aka just before Christmas. Seriously who is going to buy a Strategy rpg for a game series that was still relatively unpopular over the next Mario game when the last big Mario game was what Sunshine 5 years ago during Christmas? Fire Emblem games were also marketed just shit back in the day, meanwhile Awakening had advertisements out the wazoo when it was coming out and when it was released while having exceptional timing within the Nintendo 3DS' life cycle. Seriously I got spammed ads for Awakening every day for months when it was the big thing.

Also Brawl was on the horizon within a few months of Radiant Dawn's release so Ike hadn't had his smash debut yet to make him stick out considering Ike was a casual favorite due to how easily he can kill people who weren't paying attention. The moral of the story is, Nintendo had really shit timing both times with Fire Emblem's first home console releases. Considering Ike according to Fire Emblem heroes is one of the most popular characters in the entire series even beating out Marth, Ike would probably be relatively popular if he was the lord of the newest Fire Emblem today.
I will argue in favor of the Radiant games being possible because they don't really need much in terms of remastering.
Unless they get a complete remaster, I doubt we will see ports of the Radiant games through a thing like virtual console as that seems to be what was suggested. The games sold poorly, and while you could say that is because of timing and advertisements, I doubt Nintendo would view it the same way. Remember, Chibi-Robo was released around the same time and practically killed by initial sales. Nintendo brought the game to Wii in Japan only, they killed the DS release by making it Wal-Mart exclusive, and kept the DS port in Japan. After seeing it had poor sales they decided the issue was genre not anything else.

Nintendo is kinda tone deaf, so I cannot see them pulling out the Radiant series any time soon.
 
Unless they get a complete remaster, I doubt we will see ports of the Radiant games through a thing like virtual console as that seems to be what was suggested. The games sold poorly, and while you could say that is because of timing and advertisements, I doubt Nintendo would view it the same way. Remember, Chibi-Robo was released around the same time and practically killed by initial sales. Nintendo brought the game to Wii in Japan only, they killed the DS release by making it Wal-Mart exclusive, and kept the DS port in Japan. After seeing it had poor sales they decided the issue was genre not anything else.

Nintendo is kinda tone deaf, so I cannot see them pulling out the Radiant series any time soon.

Ike at minimum shows high popularity among some section of the Fire Emblem fanbase due to Heroes' use of him constantly unlike Chibi Robo which was as far as I know forgotten more or less after it was shelved. If Ike's games need a remake is a different story considering arguably FE4, 5, or FE6 (Roy's game) needs one more considering how much older they are and Roy has yet to have his game officially released in English despite his popularity. If I were a betting man I'd say FE6 is the next remake for the series just purely because of Roy.

Porting to the virtual console is weird because as far as I can remember Nintendo almost never puts gamecube games on there it is pretty much always NES, SNES, 64 and portable titles. I have absolutely no idea why this is the case considering the Gamecube does have a few relevant enough titles like Mario Sunshine and Wind Waker among Nintendo's popular franchises.
 
I’ve never owned any Fire Emblem games and I knew the series was unique, but like Zelda and (to an extent) SMT, I sometimes don’t know where to start.
As a non-Fire Emblem fan, I'd say just pick the one that's most convenient for you. I played one of the GBA games, and the demo for one of the 3DS games (the one that was criticised for having a chibi art style).

If you have any experience with similar games like Xcom EU/EW or Super Robot Wars, Fire Emblem is fairly straight forward. As long as you stay away from the complete travesties of the series, you'll be fine.

Smash is a party game at heart so I don’t know why the community has become so batshit insane? When did having fun become serious business? Nintendo should start doing more piranha plant characters in response to people wanting characters they want.
I think it's because it's a party game masquerading as a fighting game, and it's a fighting game that doesn't work like a traditional fighting game. The game is fast and chaotic by design, and balance takes a back seat to cool.

As someone who played Smash on a casual level, playing against a tournament skill player is miserable, and not because I'd lose. They want to turn off all the fun options (the fox only final destination meme was real), and matches degraded into people rolling around until someone made a mistake and got air combo'd to death.

It's a game with a low barrier to entry, so in theory you can get to a high level of skill without having to go into the cutthroat fighting game communities like Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat.

at least F-Zero's last game was almost perfect. . .
If you mean GX, I agree. If you mean the GP Legends series on GBA, I disagree.

Porting to the virtual console is weird because as far as I can remember Nintendo almost never puts gamecube games on there it is pretty much always NES, SNES, 64 and portable titles. I have absolutely no idea why this is the case considering the Gamecube does have a few relevant enough titles like Mario Sunshine and Wind Waker among Nintendo's popular franchises.
If it's not an emulation problem, I think it might be that those games can easily be upscaled, add a few new areas, and re-released as a "remastered" version. Games where that isn't the case Nintendo doesn't care enough about, or are in legal limbo like TimeSplitters.
 
Ike at minimum shows high popularity among some section of the Fire Emblem fanbase due to Heroes' use of him constantly unlike Chibi Robo which was as far as I know forgotten more or less after it was shelved. If Ike's games need a remake is a different story considering arguably FE4, 5, or FE6 (Roy's game) needs one more considering how much older they are and Roy has yet to have his game officially released in English despite his popularity. If I were a betting man I'd say FE6 is the next remake for the series just purely because of Roy.

Porting to the virtual console is weird because as far as I can remember Nintendo almost never puts gamecube games on there it is pretty much always NES, SNES, 64 and portable titles. I have absolutely no idea why this is the case considering the Gamecube does have a few relevant enough titles like Mario Sunshine and Wind Waker among Nintendo's popular franchises.
I honestly see 4 coming first if we are talking about FE remakes. Other than popularity and it being the next in line, 4 has a ton of references in 3H apparently. Many even thought that 3H went a bit darker than most FE titles just to prepare for the 4 and 5 remakes.

As for GameCube virtual console, I cannot see it happening for the reasons listed above. The GC has a dedicated Fanbase that rips apart many of Nintendo’s new titles, so bringing in Mario sports, Party, or Paper could create competition with the new releases. They also understandably want to distance themselves from Melee. Metroid Prime and Super Mario Sunshine are rumored for remakes, and the Zelda titles got some, so there is a good chance all may be on Switch whether through new remakes or porting Wii U remakes. After that, I see no reason to do much with GC for them. A majority of big titles are not good to do, or will be done already. Then if they are not there, then why have it at all?
 
Thought I'd post this guy since besides making some truly punch-able faces in his thumbnails he also makes the bizarre claim that Nintendo Directs are something you take the day off for you're so excited about it.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=nSQ8l9VLKzc:1388The Nintendo fanbase is fucked because it's filled with people that unironically think like this and spend much of their waking life obsessing over bing bing wahoo speculation. I blame hype culture in general for perpetuating this but I also believe Smashfags play a special role in spreading it through the wider Nintendo community. Seeing what they managed to do the Persona 5 community after only about a year really cements them as one of the worst gaming communities out there.


It's way too soon to say for sure that Ninty won't just hand it over to someone else but AlphaDream dying and the treamtent of Paper Mario and the Mario brand as a whole doesn't inspire too much confidence in me.


This shouldn't even be a matter of debate. Dude's wearing a male school uniform, end of discussion. Japan doesn't cotton to that shit as much as they enjoy their femboys.
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>338k subscribers
jesus christ, so many smaller youtubers would kill for that amount of subscribers.
 
Unless they get a complete remaster, I doubt we will see ports of the Radiant games through a thing like virtual console as that seems to be what was suggested. The games sold poorly, and while you could say that is because of timing and advertisements, I doubt Nintendo would view it the same way. Remember, Chibi-Robo was released around the same time and practically killed by initial sales. Nintendo brought the game to Wii in Japan only, they killed the DS release by making it Wal-Mart exclusive, and kept the DS port in Japan. After seeing it had poor sales they decided the issue was genre not anything else.

Nintendo is kinda tone deaf, so I cannot see them pulling out the Radiant series any time soon.

Chibi-Robo had garbage marketing too. The Radiant duology is well loved by the FE fanbase. But I do think that it's kind of a crapshoot in waiting for them to be remastered because while Path to Radiance just needs some touch-ups and the addition of the JP only maniac mode, Radiant Dawn just needs an overhaul in game balance. It'd take too long to describe everything, but the fanbase kinda has the consensus that it's like an Alpha game that got rushed out.
Ike at minimum shows high popularity among some section of the Fire Emblem fanbase due to Heroes' use of him constantly unlike Chibi Robo which was as far as I know forgotten more or less after it was shelved. If Ike's games need a remake is a different story considering arguably FE4, 5, or FE6 (Roy's game) needs one more considering how much older they are and Roy has yet to have his game officially released in English despite his popularity. If I were a betting man I'd say FE6 is the next remake for the series just purely because of Roy.

Porting to the virtual console is weird because as far as I can remember Nintendo almost never puts gamecube games on there it is pretty much always NES, SNES, 64 and portable titles. I have absolutely no idea why this is the case considering the Gamecube does have a few relevant enough titles like Mario Sunshine and Wind Waker among Nintendo's popular franchises.

Ike is fairly recognizeable with his Smash bros appearances. In the fanbase, he's consistently one of the most popular lords. In the first year of the Fire Emblem Heroes game, there was a poll (Choose Your Legends) for 4 characters to get alts, 2 men and 2 women. Ike won first place with Roy as 2nd. To this day, Ike keeps getting attention from the game in alternate units and the like. He's extremely popular even with the game pushing waifus a shitload. (Poor Marth got cucked out of the Choose your Legends poll every year because lmfao there's always something. Hell, he's like regularly top 5 or top 10 but never quite makes it because people want other MCs or popular dudes.

Given the semi-regular FE game entries we get, a remaster sounds possible. However, I'd bank more on the rest of the JP-only games getting an Echoes edition first.
 
Kinda surprised we are on page 11 so far and not a single mention of GameXplain. Remember when they were pushing hard for Twintelle because they wanted a black female, and only because she was a black female?

They were decent back in the Wii U days, but currently they just will not stop talking about representation in their discussions. They were mad that there were no female DLC fighters for Smash.

I also remember a live stream Joshy boi had where he was beefing with GameXplain as they were apparently exposing him on Twitter. I think they had a falling out in 2016 as Josh is a diehard republican, while GX is filled with liberals. The two apparently went at it with each other in 2018. While I may dislike Josh, he was right about GX being a low effort reupload channel. The only reason to subscribe is to view Nintendo trailers and get updated on directs without subscribing to Nintendo. I would subscribe to Nintendo themselves but I do not want my feed filled with eshop garbage and those weird Nintendo Minute videos.

Kinda related, but not posted by GX...
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