Nintendo Fanbase Stupidity General - Rants on the explosive fanbase

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Does Nintendo have a bad fanbase

  • Yes

    Votes: 915 93.2%

  • No

    Votes: 67 6.8%
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whatever I feel like said:
More tracks, online races, high quality audio, including the GX stuff, I would take an HD remaster.
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It's been nearly 20 years since the last F-Zero on console, so i'm pretty sure most people won't mind either a sequel very similar to GX or at the very least a HD remaster, i would understand if Nintendo feels each F-Zero needs to feel to feel different if it were a game series that gets a new game every year, but that's not the case.

That's one of the things that bother me the most about Nintendo, when it comes about their best selling IPs such as Mario, Zelda and to a certain extent, Pokemon, they're allowed to play it safe, they released 4 New Super Mario Bros games in row, games that pretty much indistinguishable from one another except for the console they were released on, Zelda BoTW didn't take any risks either, it just took advantage from the popularity of open world games, a genre that was made popular by Far Cry, Skyrim and GTA, not Zelda.

But when it comes to their "B-tier" IPs they're treated like guinea pigs, just meant to test weird ideas, or just give excuses like "We don't know to make this game different from the previous entry" does every fucking F-Zero needs to be a completely different genre?. Does the next F-Zero needs to be a walking simulator or a visual novel to make it different enough from GX?. And that's the thing, that's what they did with Star Fox, every main entry in the series (64, Adventures, Assault and Command) is a completely different game, and because the series never got any real identity and never got big enough to be on par with Mario and Zelda.

Maybe is for the best that Nintendo never releases another F-zero.
 
It's weird that you say every Star Fox is different when most people's complaint is that they just keep repeating the first game/64 over and over. As to the main series, Mario's been through a ton of gimmicks in the main series and BotW threw the standard Zelda formula out, so I am not sure what you mean there.
 
I mean, Nintendo won't make another F-Zero because Mario Kart makes all the racing money anyways.

Why spend the money producing an F-Zero when your fanbase is just going to buy Mario Kart instead? I'd rather have F-Zero but I understand why they don't do anything with it.
 
Whenever people bring up F-Zero being dead, this comes to mind.

This isn't a brand new IP that never existed, it's a series that has existed since the Wii era.

I did play the Wii game back then and it really felt to me like Nintendo was trying to let someone else take a crack at the F-Zero formula. And it's clearly selling enough that they're still making sequels despite not being the most popular or well-known series.
I just wonder what it lacks that F-Zero, specifically, has. Anyone wants to answer that?
 
weighing in on the FZero convo...Fzero would make a great GTA inspired racing game closer to simpson's hit and run
 
A Random said:
I just wonder what it lacks that F-Zero, specifically, has. Anyone wants to answer that?
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Captain Falcon, I'd assume. F-Zero fans, at the end of the day, are Nintendo fans and are just really fucking attached to the characters/vehicle designs.

Either that or they are like me and not even aware of this series. I thank you for turning me onto it and will check it out.

gaystoner said:
weighing in on the FZero convo...Fzero would make a great GTA inspired racing game closer to simpson's hit and run
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I remember when I was like 12 or 13 I mentioned that F-Zero would make a decent open world game based around how many Bounty Hunters are criminals are part of the lore.

Nintendo fags on Gamefaqs told me that "Nintendo wouldn't copy another game, let alone Grand Theft Auto."

lol
 
ProblematicUser420 said:
I mean, Nintendo won't make another F-Zero because Mario Kart makes all the racing money anyways.

Why spend the money producing an F-Zero when your fanbase is just going to buy Mario Kart instead? I'd rather have F-Zero but I understand why they don't do anything with it.
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That's ridiculous, Nintendo would never make a Kirby game since Mario sells more, never make DK or Yoshi games. Why make 2D Zelda when 3D sells more? Why does the Mario team make stuff like Capt. Toad or the Splatoon team make Arms? They vary stuff up to keep things fresh.

And fwiw, F Zero and MK don't play remotely alike at the casual level.
 
Nauseated Courgi said:
Side tangent but Nintendo doesn't develop kirby games, HAL Labrotories does, Nintendo just publishes them. So many people, Nintendo fan or otherwise, seem to get that wrong for some reason.
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Yeah, and HAL Labs is such a separate entity that the person who led them applied to lead the famously insular Nintendo and was accepted. HAL hasn't acted like an independent company since the early 90s.
 
The F-zero games were fun and all but, i always thought they were kind of overhyped. I preferred rock n roll racing on the snes as far as futuristic racers. The n64 had a bunch of better racing games, beetle adventure racing, micro machines, diddy kong, road rash, i even kind of preferred the star wars pod racing game. Though, the music from big blue is probably up there on my list of favorite video game tunes.
 
whatever I feel like said:
That's ridiculous, Nintendo would never make a Kirby game since Mario sells more, never make DK or Yoshi games. Why make 2D Zelda when 3D sells more? Why does the Mario team make stuff like Capt. Toad or the Splatoon team make Arms? They vary stuff up to keep things fresh.

And fwiw, F Zero and MK don't play remotely alike at the casual level.
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The difference is that Kriby, DK and Yoshi haven't consistently made LESS money over the years.

Each F-Zero game has been said to have sold worse than the previous. There is no incentive to develop a racing game that doesn't make money, especially when they have Mario Kart making a metric shit ton of money. And there is absolutely no reason to expect a new F-Zero, or even a remaster of GX, to suddenly sell 2021 numbers.

You god damn better believe that if Kirby, DK and Yoshi started making less and less money, they'd stop making those games in favor of Mario. In fact, that is arguably already the case as I believe there are more Mario games in total than those series, so they do in fact prioritize Mario over them.

I liked F-Zero GX. But business is business and the fact is Captain Falcon is only popular in Smash Brothers.
 
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ProblematicUser420 said:
Each F-Zero game has been said to have sold worse than the previous. There is no incentive to develop a racing game that doesn't make money, especially when they have Mario Kart making a metric shit ton of money. And there is absolutely no reason to expect a new F-Zero, or even a remaster of GX, to suddenly sell 2021 numbers.
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Salient argument, though F-Zero does have the unique attribute of having comic book styled characters at a time when comic book styles have been popular for a while. That's part of what's made it perplexing that Nintendo's just let it fade into obscurity.
 
whatever I feel like said:
Yeah, and HAL Labs is such a separate entity that the person who led them applied to lead the famously insular Nintendo and was accepted. HAL hasn't acted like an independent company since the early 90s.
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They may not act like a separate company, but they're still separate developers.
 
Pissmaster said:
That's part of what's made it perplexing that Nintendo's just let it fade into obscurity.
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F-Zero GX only sold like half a million copies at the end of the Gamecubes life I'm pretty sure, and that was probably with number fudgery or thanks to reduced price.

Nintendo isn't stupid. They gave F-Zero multiple chances and it only got worse and worse. There is nothing perplexing over them abandoning the series. It's a niche, hardcore experience when Nintendo is focused on accessible, casual experiences.

People that point out that it would be an unwise business decision to release more F-Zero are correct.
 
Pissmaster said:
Salient argument, though F-Zero does have the unique attribute of having comic book styled characters at a time when comic book styles have been popular for a while. That's part of what's made it perplexing that Nintendo's just let it fade into obscurity.
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To put it into perspective, Mario Kart Super Circuit sold roughly 6 million copies from what I've read on the internet, which is the sales of the entire F-Zero series combined.

I honestly believe it is the simple fact that Mario Kart consistently sold astronomically more than F-Zero ever did, and with the rising costs of game development and the fact Nintendo couldn't find anyone who wanted to do anything with the license (didn't the Wipeout guys pass on making an F-Zero for Wii?) there just isn't any incentive to jump on it. The idea that people are going to buy F-Zero games because The Avengers is popular is kind of a pipe dream since nobody was buying F-Zero even though Smash Brothers was popular.

It's the same reason you see huge gaps between Metroid releases. Metroid typically only sells around a million copies. Metroid: Samus Returns allegedly only sold half a million copies so I'm honestly surprised we're even getting Metroid: Dread at this point and that they are spending so much time on Prime 4. If Metroid: Dread continues on a downward slope like F-Zero did, kiss 2D Metroid goodbye. If Prime 4 underperforms, I'd expect Metroid to be relegated to F-Zero status.
 
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A Random said:
Whenever people bring up F-Zero being dead, this comes to mind.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=U8x8hEGSgXUThis isn't a brand new IP that never existed, it's a series that has existed since the Wii era.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=-852FRy9dhkhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=tXWM3Y4VzCE
I did play the Wii game back then and it really felt to me like Nintendo was trying to let someone else take a crack at the F-Zero formula. And it's clearly selling enough that they're still making sequels despite not being the most popular or well-known series.
I just wonder what it lacks that F-Zero, specifically, has. Anyone wants to answer that?
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FAST Racing Neo/RMX is fucking great! Everyone should check it out.
 
since we're still on racing games in general...This game needs a reboot

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