I think it's nostalgic Nintendo first party. I hear a lot about Splatoon, but most new Nintendo IPs get ignored. No one gives a shit about Arms. In 5-10 years it will enter the realm of nostalgia, at which point we'll get the usual "When's the new Arms game? Arms in Smash!" type fanboying.
It is sad really...
I liked ARMS, and see it as having potential. All it needs is a sequel to really iron out some mechanics and add more to do, which I hope is actually coming soon.
Splatoon also died after the second game. A bunch of people started yelling about how the game was incomplete, which is understandable. The part that gets me is the people who were mad at the single player campaign and threw a fit about DLC. The main campaign was well done, but apparently it was not good enough for some and they hate that Nintendo locked the “good content“ behind a pay wall.
I know what you mean. It's impossible to get a read on what they want, but at the same time it's also easy.
For the Nintendo fans I've seen, what they want is nostalgia. Not just re-releases or sequels, though they like those, but games that are in that give the same feelings. I know I've said "nostalgia" enough in this thread to make it seem like I'm getting paid every time I say it, but I think that's a large part of Nintendo's adult fanbase. Like you said, they have to be fans of Nintendo exclusively to stick with them through the Wii until now, and their age of 30-40 lines up well with the glory days of the NES, SNES, and N64. It explains why they go bananas for Banjo, but are ignore games like A Hat In Time.
The funny part is, I am pretty sure people like Josh hate the NES and SNES. There is a group that is basically solely dedicated to the GameCube. It is also funny as Josh hates “nostalgia games.” He throws huge fits over New Super Mario Bros., Kirby, Pokemon, etc.. At the same time though, he hates Odyssey because realism is ruining Mario. The only time he was happy was BOTW.
Basically, he wants Nintendo to be original, but not too original. He wants completely new games and experiences, but they must also fall inline with the GC. He just can be never satisfied. His standards are impossible.
Banjo didn't popularize an entire genre. Do these kids even know what a gaming history is beyond Nintendo being Japanese Jesus?
Apparently Banjo outsold Castlevania according to them, so it is more important.
Smash Boards is basically a cult for roster fags. Every character that has ever been in a video game has a dedicated thread there.
Except they hate tons of characters. Waluigi bad because we can never get over the Twitter event that people apologized for/ they can cover up toxicity of other fanbases. Steve bad because he is liked by kids and Banjo is superior in every way, no one knows who Steve is even though he is the face of the highest selling game of all time. If you are a Sony exclusive character, bad. Fire Emblem is also bad, and so is any Nintendo franchise besides Metroid and Donkey Kong as too many characters.
On the otherhand, random nobodies are always placed at the top whether it be Geno, Shantae, probably some random NES character, etc..
That's kind of the issue, they didn't mind RPGs just as long as they stayed in the background on handhelds. But since the switch merged handheld and console they're now wanting RPGs to be pushed out.
RPGs tend to remind them of non-nintendo games and dilutes the brand image in their eyes.
Ironic, as they still want Paper Mario to be an RPG, yet complain about too many rpgs. They even hate Mario & Luigi if I am not mistaken.
