Naruto/Boruto Griefing Thread

[Incecticyder]

Making everyone a 'good guy' is the downfall of Naruto. By the end of the series the image and reputation of practically every single character has been rehabilitated. The villains of the firs few arcs in the end become heroic or tragic figures. Once Itachi was revealed to be a secretly good person, a twist that fans called from beginning, it set up the predictable arc for Sasuke to have his redemption.

But by the end of the show people like Orochimaru and the Nine-Tails are now comic relief and joyful characters. A truly shocking ending would have been Itachi just being evil. And Sasuke becoming evil. Not the standard Darth Vader becomes Anakin again writing that practically everyone copies now.

My problem is not that some got redeemed. It is the fact that it was not done right. Orochimaru makes most sense to me. He is the kind of person that will do whatever benefits him the most. If being good helps him, he would not hesitate. I do not mind Itachi or Kurama either. Itachi was work in rather well and Kurama's bitterness felt organic (he has the power to sense evil and people have been trying to enslave him).

For me, it was Obito and Nagato that made little sense. I dislike the fact that Naruto called Obito a "cool guy". WTF! Why? He still was a dick! He might have been on your side at the time and he might have been manipulated but he still sucked! And Nagato, he was a prick too. He killed his teacher who raised him when he could have talked to him and warned him about Danzo and the corruption in Konoha. Jiraiya deserved a conversation, at least.

 

[Gorillion others]

My problem is not that some got redeemed. It is the fact that it was not done right. Orochimaru makes most sense to me. He is the kind of person that will do whatever benefits him the most. If being good helps him, he would not hesitate. I do not mind Itachi or Kurama either. Itachi was work in rather well and Kurama's bitterness felt organic (he has the power to sense evil and people have been trying to enslave him).

For me, it was Obito and Nagato that made little sense. I dislike the fact that Naruto called Obito a "cool guy". WTF! Why? He still was a dick! He might gave been on your side at the time and he might have been manipulated but he still sucked! And Nagato, he was a prick too. He killed his teacher who raised him when he could have talked to him and warned him about Danzo and the corruption in Konoha. Jiraiya deserved a conversation, at least.

Would you believe that the Japanese fans wanted those guys redeemed too?

Yeah, the Japanese have this bad habit of equating "good" with "cool".

It's gotten out of style since then, but it was a lot worse at the height of the big three.

 

[Incecticyder]

Would you believe that the Japanese fans wanted those guys redeemed too?

Yeah, the Japanese have this bad habit of equating "good" with "cool".

It's gotten out of style since then, but it was a lot worse at the height of the big three.

Makes sense. A good villain can be evil and cool.

 

[Atli]

Yet by the end of the show people are summoning the collective history of dead ninjas to fight for them. Commanding elder gods and eternal beings. And throwing planet sized jutsus at each other like it is nothing. We go from ninja stars and small knives to moon sized energy weapons in the span of a few years.

Me and my wife just finished Naruto and before that, AOT. Neither of us knew the endings going in, so I'm still salty about it. However, perhaps its just my personal taste, but I don't actually mind this aspect of either of those stories. I actually think its kind of cool that Naruto gets so stupidly OP. I think people hate on powercreep way too much, but I guess Ive only ever seen 3 animes ever so maybe Id hate it more if I kept seeing it over and over. But conceptually, it can be done well. Naruto handled it okay-ish. What I hate is that there are so many plotholes among the way, not least of which is the utter lack of hand signs by the end. At least Naruto ended without them totally ruining the characters like AOT (I know that happens in boruto, but I literally refuse to acknowledge its existance, just as I do with the Star Wars Disney sequels). I guess the big down side of the huge power creep though is that it makes every other character and fight kind of pointless. Remember when Neji was intimidating?

Spoiler

Or how in the world is Kakashi the hokage after the end of Naruto. ESPECIALLY after losing his sharingan

Also the war arc was such a snoozer. It took us like over two years to finish the show because we kept taking breaks, especially during that arc, because it was so slow and repetitive. Eventually we just skipped to the Tobi fights. Also I'm still malding about the crummy animation during the Pain fight. That couldve been top tier kino. I still love it, but still, what a waste.

Also, after reading through this thread more, I think I can speak somewhat objectively and say this show is not as bad as you guys say. It has some laughably bad plot holes and I think the creator strays way too far from the original morals/themes of Naruto, but its still objectively a decent/entertaining show at least, even if its kind of dumb. At least, compared to the other anime people have tried to get me to watch. And don't even get me started on most other shows in general. Naruto is god tier compared to a lot of junk Ive seen. And it has a great soundtrack. Plus, the upside to Naruto and AOT's bad endings is that it compelled me to start writing.

 

[We Are The Witches]

I am not a hardcore fan, so I know far less than a lot of users in here. With having that said, does it not seem like Hidan's power is kind of weak, ironically?

Like he can die from malnutrition apparently, and if he gets his head cut off, he's useless, isn't he? Well, like any other ninja right, but at least the others have more resources at their disposal to prevent that, Hidan is pretty much a target that usually gets outsmarted, and is asking to get hit.

I'm also wondering about other things, like what happens if he loses too much blood? Before he gets a day or several hours to heal, great loss of blood should incapacitate him (obviously muscle cells need oxygen, as well as brain to process information/etc). After all, not eating for enough time will kill him (so nutrients don't magically come to reality out of nowhere), I don't see why he should be immune to oxygen depletion then, or regenerate massive amounts of blood without those nutrients/rapidly.

What if you carbonize him? Like make him ashes, not like in the anime with that weak stuff. Can he drown?

For the one that's called "immortal", he sure is at risk of getting obliterated in a lot of ways.

 

[Incecticyder]

I am not a hardcore fan, so I know far less than a lot of users in here. With having that said, does it not seem like Hidan's power is kind of weak, ironically?

Like he can die from malnutrition apparently, and if he gets his head cut off, he's useless, isn't he? Well, like any other ninja right, but at least the others have more resources at their disposal to prevent that, Hidan is pretty much a target that usually gets outsmarted, and is asking to get hit.

I'm also wondering about other things, like what happens if he loses too much blood? Before he gets a day or several hours to heal, great loss of blood should incapacitate him (obviously muscle cells need oxygen, as well as brain to process information/etc). After all, not eating for enough time will kill him (so nutrients don't magically come to reality out of nowhere), I don't see why he should be immune to oxygen depletion then, or regenerate massive amounts of blood without those nutrients/rapidly.

What if you carbonize him? Like make him ashes, not like in the anime with that weak stuff. Can he drown?

For the one that's called "immortal", he sure is at risk of getting obliterated in a lot of ways.

Hidan is a priest. A murderous one but he really is no fighter. His main duty is to not die by Kakuzu and keep people pre-occupied with his unusual, easy-to-forget abilities while his partner blasted everyone with highly destructive jutsu.

As for his immortality, I think that he is in peak condition regardless of injury unless he is cut into pieces. He probably will be dying slowly from lack of oxygen, water and food but the ritual keeps him alive until it runs out due to lack of killing. Also, he is rather resistant against fire according to the Akatsuki promo video released alongside the UNSR game.

What can I say? He really should have learned some Kenjutsu at least. But hey, the ability to survive injuries that were certain death for most people is nothing to scoff at. Hidan is just too stupid to take advantage of that.

 

[Sexyphobe]

My problem is not that some got redeemed. It is the fact that it was not done right. Orochimaru makes most sense to me. He is the kind of person that will do whatever benefits him the most. If being good helps him, he would not hesitate. I do not mind Itachi or Kurama either. Itachi was work in rather well and Kurama's bitterness felt organic (he has the power to sense evil and people have been trying to enslave him).

For me, it was Obito and Nagato that made little sense. I dislike the fact that Naruto called Obito a "cool guy". WTF! Why? He still was a dick! He might have been on your side at the time and he might have been manipulated but he still sucked! And Nagato, he was a prick too. He killed his teacher who raised him when he could have talked to him and warned him about Danzo and the corruption in Konoha. Jiraiya deserved a conversation, at least.

Obito I wouldn't mind if he wasn't made out to be so evil while cosplaying as Madara. A kid influenced by war and destruction tries to "fix" the ninja world, but only ends up helping the same things he was trying to destroy? A good story and character in there, with how even the purest of people can get corrupted by the ninja world. But he did far too much evil for that kind of redemption payoff.

Itachi is a pure sociopath, he was whitewashed too easily and too quickly by everyone, including his biggest victim in Sauce. I can never buy him as a good guy, or even neutral guy.

 

[Incecticyder]

Obito I wouldn't mind if he wasn't made out to be so evil while cosplaying as Madara. A kid influenced by war and destruction tries to "fix" the ninja world, but only ends up helping the same things he was trying to destroy? A good story and character in there, with how even the purest of people can get corrupted by the ninja world. But he did far too much evil for that kind of redemption payoff.

Obito could have been a better redemption if Naruto did not act like everything was forgiven. If he said that Obito was a victim of BZ who had a good heart, that would be decent enough. But "a cool guy", that is a bit much.

Itachi is a pure sociopath, he was whitewashed too easily and too quickly by everyone, including his biggest victim in Sauce. I can never buy him as a good guy, or even neutral guy.

Itachi is a smart man that was written by a stupid one. He is a deep undercover agent who has to do horrible things to save the village. That would be fine until we reach Sasuke. Itachi is one of the wisest and most intelligent people in the world and he couldn't have figured out that filling Sasuke with hatred would not make him a decent person capable of returning to a normal life or that Obito would not find a way to explain to Sasuke the truth about the massacre. Yeah, he put a trap but still.

 

[Son of Big Boss]

Hidan is fodder.
Like, the dude literally has nothing going for him apart from the Immortality gimmick. He has no powerful jutsu, no kekkei genkai, he's literally just a dude with a scythe and decent taijutsu.
If you gave his immortality gimmick to anyone else, literally everyone else, they would be top tier, but Kishi gave this power to the biggest bum in the series to balance it out (yeah back when he still cared about balance and did not power creep the shit out of the series by giving everyone in the War Arc Immortality)

By the way, it's kinda hilarious that we never saw any Fire Jutsu do any fucking damage.

 

[We Are The Witches]

He probably will be dying slowly from lack of oxygen, water and food but the ritual keeps him alive until it runs out due to lack of killing.

Then you can just drown him and be done with it. Imagine Kisame summoning those waves and dragging him to the bottom, Hidan's ritual probably won't even work even if he injures him, as the blood will wash away and the bloody pattern won't be able to be made with everything in water. Unable to breathe again, he'll just shut down, and that'll be that.

That's just a thought though, this type of immortality seems kind of weak.

Hidan is fodder.
Like, the dude literally has nothing going for him apart from the Immortality gimmick. He has no powerful jutsu, no kekkei genkai, he's literally just a dude with a scythe and decent taijutsu.
If you gave his immortality gimmick to anyone else, literally everyone else, they would be top tier, but Kishi gave this power to the biggest bum in the series to balance it out (yeah back when he still cared about balance and did not power creep the shit out of the series by giving everyone in the War Arc Immortality)

By the way, it's kinda hilarious that we never saw any Fire Jutsu do any fucking damage.

Imagine Might Guy with Hidan's power.

In regards to the fire thing, there's a video on it:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFdPScfQ7pc

I think that fire is just used for flashiness, like with explosions in a bunch of animes. Having that stuff and then clearing the smoke/fire & seeing that the enemy is not dead is such an easy way to "make it more interesting" (debatable), and maybe creating a bit of suspense.

 

[Incecticyder]

Then you can just drown him and be done with it. Imagine Kisame summoning those waves and dragging him to the bottom, Hidan's ritual probably won't even work even if he injures him, as the blood will wash away and the bloody pattern won't be able to be made with everything in water. Unable to breathe again, he'll just shut down, and that'll be that.

That's just a thought though, this type of immortality seems kind of weak.

There are many ways to incapacitate Hidan. Problem is when he has a partner that distracts you. Isolate them though and it becomes far easier. This is far easier said than done as few survive a fight with the Immortal Combo (they are considered the most effective Akatsuki pair) and making a good plan is easier than executing it.

By the way, it's kinda hilarious that we never saw any Fire Jutsu do any fucking damage.

In regards to the fire thing, there's a video on it:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFdPScfQ7pc
https://youtube.com/watch?v=CFdPScfQ7pc

I think that fire is just used for flashiness, like with explosions in a bunch of animes. Having that stuff and then clearing the smoke/fire & seeing that the enemy is not dead is such an easy way to "make it more interesting" (debatable), and maybe creating a bit of suspense.

Fire is the weakest element in Naruto. Do not even bother. Most writers do not know how to write fire wielders due to how strong fire is in combat.

For me, Bleach gets fire right. You fear strong fire users there (emphasis on strong):

 

[Nindo]

Why does Rasengan hit him just fine but the Uzuhiko does nothing?

To be fair, that Uzuhiko was just a quick one just to break the Mokuton and stun Jura for a couple of minutes to buy time for Konohamaru, the charged Uzuhiko (that atomized Hidari) is the real deal, but it takes a while to charge the technique. Obviously, this drawback will cease to be a thing if Boruto activates Karma in the future.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

Once Itachi was revealed to be a secretly good person, a twist that fans called from beginning, it set up the predictable arc for Sasuke to have his redemption

I don't buy that Itachi was always good. I think it was a last minute decision. Nothing we have until then indicated he was good. I'm not saying it's a bad retcon, but it does feel like one.

I think people hate on powercreep way too much, but I guess Ive only ever seen 3 animes ever so maybe Id hate it more if I kept seeing it over and over.

I think most of the power creep in Naruto is natural. It's just the war arc and ending that goes off the rails and even then it doesn't last long enough to be a point of contention for me.

I'm more angry about Boruto just slowly phasing out Jutsu and the entire system just to make new bad guys.

Naruto is god tier compared to a lot of junk Ive seen.

I think it's just aged poorly. Boruto making it retroactively worse doesn't help.

To be fair, that Uzuhiko was just a quick one just to break the Mokuton and stun Jura for a couple of minutes to buy time for Konohamaru, the charged Uzuhiko (that atomized Hidari) is the real deal, but it takes a while to charge the technique.

I just hate everything about Uzuhiko so it going the way of the dinosaur will be fine to me.

 

[Son of Big Boss]

Naruto would be much more appreciated if it ended before War Arc started. That arc completely destroyed the entire series and it's arguably one of the worst Shonen arcs i've ever read.
The power creep was off the charts and the plotholes and retcons too.

Retconning Kakashi's stamina so he basically never runs out.
Retconning how strong the 1st and 2nd Hokage were.
Retconning how strong Edo Tensei is.
Retconning needing all of the 8 Tails and 9 Tails chakra to create the 10 Tails.
Retconning the Reaper Death Seal, making Orochimaru look really dumb for not doing the Uzumaki mask trick before.
Retconning Minato so that he knew how to use Sage Mode and KCM (somehow learning how to use KCM while being... sealed. Wtf
Also not using Sage Mode during the Tobi - Nine Tails Konoha Invasion)
Retconning how Susanoo works. Now you can use without eyes for some reason.
Retconning Black Zetsu motivation and existance.
Retconning the Sharingan, now you can send Sharingan eyes from the afterlife using Wi-Fi.
Retconning eyes transplants. Now you don't need surgery and a recovery period, you can just steal someone eyes and plop them in your eyesocket like a lightbulb.
Retconning what the Infinite Tsukuyomi actually does.
Kaguya.

There's probably more but i can't be arsed to remember. War Arc is legit one of the worst written Shonen arcs in history.

War Arc is trash (aside from Madara the GOAT)

 

[God of Nothing]

aside from Madara the GOAT

he is also trash and im tired of pretending otherwise

 

[Atli]

he is also trash and im tired of pretending otherwise

If someone is based enough then who cares if he is badly written. Madara is a certified woman hater

 

[Incecticyder]

I don't buy that Itachi was always good. I think it was a last minute decision. Nothing we have until then indicated he was good. I'm not saying it's a bad retcon, but it does feel like one.

He was supposed to be deep undercover so of course he would be indistinguishable from a normal Akatsuki member. It was just not done very well if you think about it.

Retconning Kakashi's stamina so he basically never runs out.

True. The weakness became inconvenient and was gone.

Retconning how strong the 1st and 2nd Hokage were.

I would be fine with this if it was due to propaganda. If the 3rd was called the strongest to intimidate the other villages, that would be a good explanation. After Konoha lost its actual strongest ninja, they had to put on a show of force to not appear vulnerable.

Retconning how strong Edo Tensei is.

The jutsu was improved upon by Orochimaru and Kabuto.

Retconning needing all of the 8 Tails and 9 Tails chakra to create the 10 Tails.

I kinda get it. They are composed of pure chakra, it makes sense that such is somewhat possible even if it results into a weaker version of the 10 Tails.

Retconning the Reaper Death Seal, making Orochimaru look really dumb for not doing the Uzumaki mask trick before.

I will defend this too. It makes sense that Orochimaru would go through everything that was left of the Uzumaki in order to find a way to deal with the seal.

Retconning Minato so that he knew how to use Sage Mode and KCM (somehow learning how to use KCM while being... sealed. Wtf
Also not using Sage Mode during the Tobi - Nine Tails Konoha Invasion)

Yeah, that was a stupid thing. Just have him use the Sage Mode.

Retconning how Susanoo works. Now you can use without eyes for some reason.

And Kakashi can use complete Susanoo despite not having EMS.

Retconning Black Zetsu motivation and existance.

That killed Naruto for me. The whole "it was the aliens that were behind humanity's wars" was too much.

Retconning the Sharingan, now you can send Sharingan eyes from the afterlife using Wi-Fi.

Meh, I had stopped caring as there were bigger problems. It does not make much sense but there was an explanation. More than can be said about other things in the series.

Retconning eyes transplants. Now you don't need surgery and a recovery period, you can just steal someone eyes and plop them in your eyesocket like a lightbulb.

That is FACTUALLY WRONG and I will call you out on it. Lightbulbs are FAR harder to install.

Retconning what the Infinite Tsukuyomi actually does.

Meh, a nothing-burger. It was a stupid plan from the start. It just remained stupid.

Kaguya

Yes.

 

[Chilson]

he is also trash and im tired of pretending otherwise

The only actual goat in that arc was fucking Guy sacrificing himself to kick Madara's ass. Even if Madara's declaration that he was the "strongest" was the most forced, out of character and out of nowhere piece of garbage dialogue in the world.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

Boruto Chapter 23 is out.

Lets talk about the cover first...This time it's Jura and what on earth is with that pose?! Okay, I had a suspicion for a long time about this, but I think with this cover art, I'm ready to come out and say it. Ikemoto is clearly tracing fashion magazines for some of these covers. I don't think it's ever been more apparent. This cover is clearly traced off of some fashion magazine. There is no other way Ikemoto would ever randomly decide to have Jura pose like a male model like this. It's not in Jura's character. It's not Jura's style. It's not a pose I could ever see the character as he is currently is presented actually taking. What the hell Ikemoto? I'm not versed in the manga industry but do other mangaka do this? It makes sense as to why some of the cover arts are so warped though. He's not actually drawing them, he's tracing them. At what point does someone tell Ikemoto to let someone help him? This is a very fight heavy chapter and it's difficult to tell what's going on. He clearly needs someone's assistance with this artwork. At least let someone else do the cover arts....

Anyway, we get into the chapter proper. Mitsuki is fighting some Claw Grimes. He meets up with Konohamaru. They fill each other in on the situation and while Mitsuki wants to help Boruto, Konohamaru wants to do what Boruto says, thinking he must have some sort of plan.

We shift to Boruto and Jura fighting. Boruto is injured and unfortunately for him, Jura is now getting used to fighting. He realizes his Sniper Bijuu Damas take too much charge time. They keep fighting, Boruto cutting off Jura's foot...heel..toe..his high heels. His feet are high heels, because fashion. The fighting keeps going, but I'm not a fan of the paneling. It's hard to keep up with because everything is so fast you can't really tell what's going on with all the speed lines. Either way, Boruto is losing steam and not holding up well. Jura finally takes him down.

We cut to Eida who says she can't watch anymore(?), not clear if it's her or Koji saying this. Either way, Eida is concerned Boruto really will get killed. However, Koji is currently receiving another vision from the future! One where Jura is holding his eye and several other things. Apparently he hadn't received any visions in SIX DAYS. Meaning they went on this mission with what they had. Koji had no idea how this would pan out and they were ultimately going to end blindly. Fucking hell....

Anyway back at Boruto, he's beaten on the ground, clinging to Sasuke's sword while Jura chastises him for it. He goes to finish Boruto when suddenly a black rod gets shoved through his eye by Kawaki. Koji is amazed that Kawaki has arrived. Apparently he never saw this possibility and with this level of strength. Meaning Boruto did this without Koji's knowledge. HOW?! THE NIGGA IS SUPPOSED TO SEE THE FUTURE, BUT BORUTO CAN JUST SLIP BY AND CHANGE THE FUTURE WHENEVER HE DAMN WELL PLEASES?! For those that don't know, Boruto and Kawaki have a special, almost psychic connection. They can sense each other and even communicate without talking to some degree using their karmas. But does that mean Koji's Ten Directions doesn't account for the Ootsutsuki Karmas? Then why can he foresee the Divine Trees at all if that's the case?!? How can he just let this slip by?!

Anyway, Mitsuki and Konohamaru are met by Delta. Kawaki briefly fights Jura, trouncing him, he meets with Boruto briefly and we end with Kawaki about to take over the fight.

Seriously, what the hell is the Ten Directions?! What is the limitations, how does it work, when does it work, what triggers it, why is any of this news to Koji? Sure Koji can see why kids love cinnamon toast crunch but he can't see Kawaki having his limiter removed?! Why not? That had nothing to do with karma. That was all Amado. FFS. WHY IS NOBODY, ESPECIALLY KASHIN KOJI ASKING THESE FUCKING QUESTIONS?! WHY ARE YOU HINGING THE ENTIRE FUTURE OF THE PLANET ON VISIONS THAT EVEN BORUTO CAN OVERWRITE BY JUST TALKING WITH KAWAKI?!??!!!!!?! IT MAKES NO GOD DAMN SENSE. Fuck this is stupid. At this rate, either the Ten Directions are completely fucking useless, or the future can be changed so easily they should just start throwing everything and the kitchen sink at their plans and stop tip toeing around this stuff to change the future. If all it takes to make a difference is Boruto going "Sup Bro" to Kawaki, why not throw the entire fucking leaf village at Jura and just be done with it already?! Surely Shikamaru could convince everyone to go with it. I'm just at a loss for how ungodly stupid this all is.

 

[Incecticyder]

Lets talk about the cover first...This time it's Jura and what on earth is with that pose?! Okay, I had a suspicion for a long time about this, but I think with this cover art, I'm ready to come out and say it. Ikemoto is clearly tracing fashion magazines for some of these covers. I don't think it's ever been more apparent. This cover is clearly traced off of some fashion magazine. There is no other way Ikemoto would ever randomly decide to have Jura pose like a male model like this. It's not in Jura's character. It's not Jura's style. It's not a pose I could ever see the character as he is currently is presented actually taking. What the hell Ikemoto? I'm not versed in the manga industry but do other mangaka do this? It makes sense as to why some of the cover arts are so warped though. He's not actually drawing them, he's tracing them. At what point does someone tell Ikemoto to let someone help him? This is a very fight heavy chapter and it's difficult to tell what's going on. He clearly needs someone's assistance with this artwork. At least let someone else do the cover arts....

Jojo but worse.

Anyway, we get into the chapter proper. Mitsuki is fighting some Claw Grimes. He meets up with Konohamaru. They fill each other in on the situation and while Mitsuki wants to help Boruto, Konohamaru wants to do what Boruto says, thinking he must have some sort of plan.

If only.

We shift to Boruto and Jura fighting. Boruto is injured and unfortunately for him, Jura is now getting used to fighting. He realizes his Sniper Bijuu Damas take too much charge time. They keep fighting, Boruto cutting off Jura's foot...heel..toe..his high heels. His feet are high heels, because fashion. The fighting keeps going, but I'm not a fan of the paneling. It's hard to keep up with because everything is so fast you can't really tell what's going on with all the speed lines. Either way, Boruto is losing steam and not holding up well. Jura finally takes him down.

Now this is very stupid. Didn't they train? Did they spend all day felating each other "Oh, we are so strong, we don't train because no one stands a chance against us!" How did he not figure out that his signature jutsu is heavily telegraphed and slow?

We cut to Eida who says she can't watch anymore(?), not clear if it's her or Koji saying this. Either way, Eida is concerned Boruto really will get killed. However, Koji is currently receiving another vision from the future! One where Jura is holding his eye and several other things. Apparently he hadn't received any visions in SIX DAYS. Meaning they went on this mission with what they had. Koji had no idea how this would pan out and they were ultimately going to end blindly. Fucking hell....

It is almost as if the future is ever-changing or something.

Anyway back at Boruto, he's beaten on the ground, clinging to Sasuke's sword while Jura chastises him for it. He goes to finish Boruto when suddenly a black rod gets shoved through his eye by Kawaki. Koji is amazed that Kawaki has arrived. Apparently he never saw this possibility and with this level of strength. Meaning Boruto did this without Koji's knowledge. HOW?! THE NIGGA IS SUPPOSED TO SEE THE FUTURE, BUT BORUTO CAN JUST SLIP BY AND CHANGE THE FUTURE WHENEVER HE DAMN WELL PLEASES?! For those that don't know, Boruto and Kawaki have a special, almost psychic connection. They can sense each other and even communicate without talking to some degree using their karmas. But does that mean Koji's Ten Directions doesn't account for the Ootsutsuki Karmas? Then why can he foresee the Divine Trees at all if that's the case?!? How can he just let this slip by?!

Basically, Boruto planned ahead to work out an alliance with Kawaki against the Trees without telling Koji. Why not tell him though, I know he is an enemy but the Trees take priority for both parties. This cacophony of miscommunication is neverending.

Anyway, Mitsuki and Konohamaru are met by Delta. Kawaki briefly fights Jura, trouncing him, he meets with Boruto briefly and we end with Kawaki about to take over the fight.

The extras are doing assembled. Let us see them amount to nothing.

Seriously, what the hell is the Ten Directions?! What is the limitations, how does it work, when does it work, what triggers it, why is any of this news to Koji? Sure Koji can see why kids love cinnamon toast crunch but he can't see Kawaki having his limiter removed?! Why not? That had nothing to do with karma. That was all Amado. FFS. WHY IS NOBODY, ESPECIALLY KASHIN KOJI ASKING THESE FUCKING QUESTIONS?! WHY ARE YOU HINGING THE ENTIRE FUTURE OF THE PLANET ON VISIONS THAT EVEN BORUTO CAN OVERWRITE BY JUST TALKING WITH KAWAKI?!??!!!!!?! IT MAKES NO GOD DAMN SENSE. Fuck this is stupid. At this rate, either the Ten Directions are completely fucking useless, or the future can be changed so easily they should just start throwing everything and the kitchen sink at their plans and stop tip toeing around this stuff to change the future. If all it takes to make a difference is Boruto going "Sup Bro" to Kawaki, why not throw the entire fucking leaf village at Jura and just be done with it already?! Surely Shikamaru could convince everyone to go with it. I'm just at a loss for how ungodly stupid this all is.

Fortune telling is a hard ability to give to a prominent character. If you do not create logical and easy to understand limitations, people will get frustrated. In One Piece, the future sight has clear and easy to understand limits. Also, by knowing the future, you changed in big or small ways. The butterfly effect is a thing, after all.