My Hero Academia - Plus Ultra

[6MillionCoofs]

Deku never had a real underdog story. Yeah he started weak, but literally on entering school he becomes the most popular guy with a orbiting girlfriend, also he gets to be in the top class and most of the conflict is him using techniques he isn't experienced enough to master. It's as underdog as an isekai anime.

And then that story is completely destroyed when it’s revealed All Might was also quirkless. So it isn’t like Deku is doing something that hasn’t been done before in being the first quirkless OFA user. And then it turns out All Might only just missed killing AFO. So he wasn’t even completely outclassed and someone else was needed as a result. Dude just got unlucky.

I assumed the way he was going to actually prove Deku was needed was by having him save the villain. But he doesn’t get to do that.

 

[Mega Black]

Even if you want to have it bittersweet at least have some compromise with the protagonist goals, instead MHA is full on downer

Why does the story need to be bittersweet anyway? It's capeshit power fantasy where the loser with a good heart gets to earn his powers and climb to the top. Needing some element of bland and shitty realism to be layered on top of the story is so needlessly gay.

I guess the Japs are so unbelievably cucked and blackpilled that even their bottom barrel wish fulfillment manga for young men need to end with the hero peaking in his first year of high school and becoming a colossal wageslave.

All Horikoshi had to do was work his way towards Deku inevitably having his older face on a copy-paste of prime All Might's body.

That would have been too traditional and not subversive enough. Hori has been cucking Deku for years now.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Did MHA even have a good villain? The only one I remember seeing anyone reference is that Yandere chick. AfO has lost before the show even starts and Shigaraki always looked too much of a edgy faggot to be noticeable, with an absolutely retarded costume.
In general the designa are very uninspired, not bad but nothing really sticks out.

 

[Xenomorphs Are Cute]

Did MHA even have a good villain? The only one I remember seeing anyone reference is that Yandere chick. AfO has lost before the show even starts and Shigaraki always looked too much of a edgy faggot to be noticeable, with an absolutely retarded costume.
In general the designa are very uninspired, not bad but nothing really sticks out.

Gentle & La Brava. Unironically the best characters in the main series, & had the best ending in the end.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Why does the story need to be bittersweet anyway?

It doesn’t. And if the people praising the rnding were being honest, no one expected it to be bitter sweet and no one wanted it to be.

Everyone was expecting him to be the number one heo and then get obvious indication that Shota and Bakugo were right behind him and that he and Uraraka were together.

No was expecting what we got. And no one is really ok with it, you can tell by how content creators are talking about it.

This is not what was wanted.

 

[ShitLurker]

Vigilante bros stay winning​

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Maybe Vigilantes was the main series and Deku's faggot adventures was the spinoff all along...

That MHA had like 5 chapters of epilogue where honest to god nothing fucking happens outside of the uraraka and deku moment makes me weep for all the series that could have had a so much better ending with an extra epiloguechapter, Vigilantes one of them, really missed a little something between Crawler and Popstep (though you never doubted they were together).

Gentle and La Brava were the real winners of MHA

Only thing that hot a smile out of me in the last chapter. Those two were a treasure.

>beginning of the manga shows deku in his hero suit recalling how he became the number one hero
>Loljk he lost it

???? did the mangaka just forget the beginning or what

I went and had a look at the first chapter and didn't notice this, mind sharing what you mean?

I came here once I heard the manga was over and wanted to see how they ended Izuku's story as a badass #1 hero, only to read he got the Captain Tsubasa 2002 treatment.

I'm so glad I dropped this trash after the school games arc.

Don't tell me little head Tsubasa just ended up being a shitty gym teacher!

Yeah, I understand. Deku even had the best blood type against Stain lol.

However, Hori spamming Deku adversity after adversity just makes the clear facts of how many times he got over in the series so sigh-worthy. The many broken bones, the lasting damage to his body threatening his career, the many a time he got put down rhetorically just to have it emphasized physically; the plot silently telling us he's not ready yet. Hori literally took the boy's arms (just to cuck on that shit 1-2? chapters later). Almost forgot all the plot tears shed by Deku every time he's reassured, especially when he's been dwelling on his physical, emotional, and rhetorical ass whoopings throughout the story.

It just might be the feeling I get when I hear about Ichigo in early Bleach, but laced with Hori's kaizo gauntlet of incessant struggles, and reiterations of how weak Deku is for the new moment with expositioning of how hard his current struggles are in general.

I enjoyed that aspect of the series at first. There was real lasting damage, but though the drawing was there, not being "real consequences" kind of removed the impact of it. That Mirko was still operating even when she was a nuget was just fucking stupid and showed that everything "was a flesh wound" including your heart being blown.

In Demon Slayer characters outright retired from horrible wounds and the main character ended without an eye and a mummy baby hand.

Did MHA even have a good villain? The only one I remember seeing anyone reference is that Yandere chick. AfO has lost before the show even starts and Shigaraki always looked too much of a edgy faggot to be noticeable, with an absolutely retarded costume.
In general the designa are very uninspired, not bad but nothing really sticks out.

Overload or whatever the guy with the plague mask was called. He was a solid mafia villian.

Gentle & La Brava. Unironically the best characters in the main series, & had the best ending in the end.

They are more jolly antagonists than villians but their arc was the last good thing in MHA.

 

[Lone MacReady II]

Isn't the "plus ultra" line stolen from an HRE emperor?

In Demon Slayer characters outright retired from horrible wounds and the main character ended without an eye and a mummy baby hand.

I like that aspect. Like the flashy hashira.

 

[Nicholas II of Russia]

Isn't the "plus ultra" line stolen from an HRE emperor?

Yup, and the official motto of Spain.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Gentle & La Brava. Unironically the best characters in the main series, & had the best ending in the end.

Says someghing that the best villains were the ones that showed up in a cool down period between plot.

And also heavily used the fact the characters were learning at school.

The fact that we only see 1 year of education throughout the series still bugs the fuck out of me.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Did MHA even have a good villain? The only one I remember seeing anyone reference is that Yandere chick. AfO has lost before the show even starts and Shigaraki always looked too much of a edgy faggot to be noticeable, with an absolutely retarded costume.
In general the designa are very uninspired, not bad but nothing really sticks out.

A good chunk of villains are wasted potential, only ones that are good are Dabi, Gentle & La Brava, and Overhaul.

AFO is a villain who overstayed his welcome and derailed MHA's entire idea of "passing the torch" and became bootleg Aizen

Only thing that hot a smile out of me in the last chapter. Those two were a treasure.

Helps that the arc they are in is the only one not ruined by future events. Both also felt like they could fit in old school comics, which is more than most of MHA's villains.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

A good chunk of villains are wasted potential, only ones that are good are Dabi, Gentle & La Brava, and Overhaul.

Stain was also cool

AFO is a villain who overstayed his welcome and derailed MHA's entire idea of "passing the torch" and became bootleg Aizen

Honestly the idea of the most iconic hero and villain being so fucked up from fighting each other that they had no choice but to train someone to pass thr tourch to was a really great concept.

Both All Might and AFO should have bowed out after the first fight we saw them have. It was perfect.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Honestly the idea of the most iconic hero and villain being so fucked up from fighting each other that they had no choice but to train someone to pass thr tourch to was a really great concept.

Both All Might and AFO should have bowed out after the first fight we saw them have. It was perfect.

Yeah both of them were interesting characters, and having a villain want to take on the idea of the "mentor" role heroes have was a cool concept, but then he hijacked his successor's body, and even All Might got ruined because we got the dumbest fight in the series



Reminder AFO had an EMP quirk he never used, and this entire fight exists to foreshadow Deku's Iron Man suit.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Reminder AFO had an EMP quirk he never used,

He had so many quirks I just forgot. That was what was good about OFA, there wasn’t an endless number. Not that I think there should have been extra powers.

and this entire fight exists to foreshadow Deku's Iron Man suit.

They didn’t even need to forshadow it. It was just obvious that kind of suit cpuld be made.

And as him getting the suit comes after the chapter says ‘END’ i choose to ignore it and act like he never got the suit. lol

 

[Mega Black]

Overload or whatever the guy with the plague mask was called. He was a solid mafia villian.

Overload was pretty much when the series blew its load and when I was like "Yeah, I have had enough."

Deku's friend loses his quirk, Bakugou wank is nowhere to be seen, he saves a little girl in the face of impossible adversity and unleashes 100% of his power to beat a villain that would be far and above any other regular student.

Everything after that felt like it was trying to walk back his success.

Also how fucking weird is it that the entire manga takes place over one year? I thought for sure we would get a couple of time skips so the series could take place over your usual four or so years so Class 1A weren't literally the greatest heroes to ever live.

 

[Kurohige]

The fact that we only see 1 year of education throughout the series still bugs the fuck out of me.

Remember the days of yore? "This could be the next One Piece!" people exclaimed, and "King of the Pirates" in MHA was just Deku becoming the new Symbol of Peace as the #1 hero? Le sigh.

Did we ever hear a reason Hori as to why he didn't just spilt the story into 2-3 books, depicting the events of each year, or at least the first and third years? Could've spared his health a tad more, and given him opportunities for some spacing with more time or at least a break to figure out how to transition probably and how to end each book properly, so he isn't shitting himself when writing the conclusion.

 

[Would]

did that ever try to show ichigo as an underdog?

In the early arcs, yes. Mostly because Kubo didn't know where he wanted to take the story and because he hadn't fleshed out the world and it's characters yet.
He's an underdog right up until his last fight with Ulquiorra and reaches Vasto Lorde Hollow form. After that he gets the Gohan (all I need is some bullshit quick-training time waster and I become OP against the current enemy) treatment of easy wins that deflated a lot of the story following the end of Aizen.

 

[God of Nothing]

Also how fucking weird is it that the entire manga takes place over one year? I thought for sure we would get a couple of time skips so the series could take place over your usual four or so years so Class 1A weren't literally the greatest heroes to ever live.

wait what the fuck?
a single damn year?
what trash pacing

In the early arcs, yes. Mostly because Kubo didn't know where he wanted to take the story and because he hadn't fleshed out the world and it's characters yet.
He's an underdog right up until his last fight with Ulquiorra and reaches Vasto Lorde Hollow form. After that he gets the Gohan (all I need is some bullshit quick-training time waster and I become OP against the current enemy) treatment of easy wins that deflated a lot of the story following the end of Aizen.

lol, lmao
kubo is such a fucking hack

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Did we ever hear a reason Hori as to why he didn't just spilt the story into 2-3 books, depicting the events of each year, or at least the first and third years? Could've spared his health a tad more, and given him opportunities for some spacing with more time or at least a break to figure out how to transition probably and how to end each book properly, so he isn't shitting himself when writing the conclusion.

Allegedly cause Hori wanted to end the series and never takes on any breaks. He only takes a break once every other week because he keeps overworking himself even writing chapters for 36 hours with no sleep.

He honestly writes MHA like he is going to be axed any second despite being creating one of the biggest series of all time.

A lot of MHA's problems in the third act probably wouldn't have happened if Hori just took a 1-2 month break. Even the authors of less popular series than MHA can have that luxury.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Remember the days of yore? "This could be the next One Piece!" people exclaimed, and "King of the Pirates" in MHA was just Deku becoming the new Symbol of Peace as the #1 hero? Le sigh.

It truly could’ve been. Every year could have comfortsbly been 5-10 years long

Did we ever hear a reason Hori as to why he didn't just spilt the story into 2-3 books, depicting the events of each year, or at least the first and third years? Could've spared his health a tad more, and given him opportunities for some spacing with more time or at least a break to figure out how to transition probably and how to end each book properly, so he isn't shitting himself when writing the conclusion.

No. I assume he just did not want to do it. And I’m convinced the amount of shit he got, health issues and difficulties with editors just tapped him the fuck out.

It’s clear he had more planned than we got.

wait what the fuck?

Yeah when the final arcs start kicking off, they are about a moth into 2nd Year.

Hori sets up an entire school structure and then does not do anything with it.

No shot. I straight up thought it would end seeing 1A Graduate. Making speaches and all that. Showing the pairings that got together. Bakugo hating formality etc. Graduation Day has many funny possibilities.

And the chapter hits the end with everyone saying Plus Ultra.

And then the time skip last few pages we actually got.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

They had a special announcement for when MHA ended today, many fans thought it was a sequel series or Vigilantes anime, but they just got a popularity poll instead.