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If Mgumbo tests positive for PEDS, does that mean Stipe is still champ?
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Ngannou is a beast, no denying that, but he is dirty as fuck. These punches after his opponents are clearly knocked out are ridiculous. Does this shit all the time.
edit: I know in real time it's probably hard for someone to just back off and you shouldn't stop until he ded, maybe it's just that he hits so hard that it makes it look worse. Idk.
edit: I know in real time it's probably hard for someone to just back off and you shouldn't stop until he ded, maybe it's just that he hits so hard that it makes it look worse. Idk.
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Yep. Will get overturned.
I am doubting any of them are clean, but Ngannou somehow put on a good amount of lean mass in a short period of time. No way in hell is he natty.
I think Jones beats him though
Stipe made a huge mistake getting aggressive after he thought he wobbled Ngannou. Should've stayed back and stuck to his gameplan
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What is it with Croatians and their awkward landings after being disconnected from consciousness?
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Let me be honest bros... it hurt seeing Stipe lose. I hope Derrick Lewis KO's Mgumbo sometime in the future to make up for it.
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I think Jones will beat him. Ngannou seems like a good dude but Jones is just too damn good
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Did Cro Cop suffer any longstanding injury from that outside of probably a sore leg for a few days? Ligament tearer's at least, the way him and Stipe landed. Lucky men. The human body is something else, to withstand all that weight that collapsed.
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I don't think so, surprisingly. The Kongo fight wasn't much longer after his loss to Gonzaga. I think his gigantic quads might have saved him in that case.
On paper, I think Ngannou matches up terribly with Jon Jones but I'm really interested to see how he translates his skill at heavyweight.
His length shouldn't be as much of an advantage as it was at 205 and I hope he's been busting his ass at strength and conditioning because he's going to need it for his wrestling the deeper he goes into the division. Really want to see a return of those vicious elbows he was spamming earlier in his UFC run once he got people on their backs.
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Cro Cop right now is permanently retired after his last fight in Bellator under doctors orders. He's been advised by medical professionals that one more blow could cripple him or worse.
Despite that, back to the stipe fight. Stipe can recover from this, he's only had a 1/3 of the fights Cro cop had and Ngannou is still relatively unchallenged considering his fight record and the lack of competition in heavyweight. Even if Ngannou keeps the belt, he'll have issues defending the belt once the UFC actually invests in talent in the HW division. (Not dismissing Stipe, but when you have Derrick Lewis/Curtis Blaydes and Rozenstruick in the HW division as the big names. that including stipe is only 4 names to challenge Ngannou.) Heavyweight division needs some good build up instead of Ngannou at this point.
P.S i don't consider jon jones heavyweight, because he hasn't even proven himself in the division yet. so that's why i didn't mention him
When jon jones tested positive he got stripped and the belt went back to DC, but that was back then when Jones was almost on the verge of getting cut from the UFC,
Considering how much the UFC likes Ngannou, even if he pops for roids or PED's i doubt the UFC would do anything unless the publicity is too strong to ignore. remember after Jon Jones got stripped and every time he got popped for PED's the excuse was "Negligible amount or we'll move the event to a location where the rules are less strict on PED usage. " that's what i think the UFC might attempt with Ngannou but it depends on how blatant his PED usage is if he was on that crap.
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Why did Chael have to curse Stipe though? I swear everyone Chael picks loses.
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Mgumbo is 100% roiding, anyone with eyes can see that, but you are a bit delusional if you think anything is going happen to him. He's one of Dana's boys and if you think Dana won't do everything in his power to keep him on top I have a bridge to sell you.
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I honestly don't understand why Stipe doesn't shell up and (at least try to) properly block punches, it kinda made sense to act like that against DC because there was takedown/clinch involved, but it was basically a K1 fight this time what the hell with that shit.
Who cares if N'nigger is juiced or not, cycling PED is still WAY better than being officially allowed to juice in competition. I just hope Boku no Pico Jones doesn't chicken out.
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Jones wont take the fight. He knows he'll get starched.
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Gotta keep that undefeated record right?
If it happens, fully support Ngannou knocking that cunt out.
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Issue is the HW division is a pile of shit now DC has retired, Stipe is what 38? Has maybe 2-3 years and 5 fights max left in him.
Realistically Ngubu will beat Jon Jones and then just pick off the sub-tier of HW fighters in that division. Think the Blaydes, Aspinall etc. I really don't think he will have any competition for the next year or two.
Alternatively they could have a Stipe v Ngannou 3 as that will sell, but think UFC are pretty dead set on making Ngubu one of the main guys, was obvious to see with how much media coverage he was getting and how biased half the posts on their social media are
Realistically Ngubu will beat Jon Jones and then just pick off the sub-tier of HW fighters in that division. Think the Blaydes, Aspinall etc. I really don't think he will have any competition for the next year or two.
Alternatively they could have a Stipe v Ngannou 3 as that will sell, but think UFC are pretty dead set on making Ngubu one of the main guys, was obvious to see with how much media coverage he was getting and how biased half the posts on their social media are
Jones said on Twitter last night that it's OK if Lewis has a go at Ngannou first.
Cowardly fucker.
Anyway, Stipe looked scared as fuck that entire fight and didn't really seem to have a gameplan.
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Gameplan was wrestle, and that panned out poorly. Tape wise there is almost nothing useful against Ngannou because he KOs everyone so quickly.
Those 3 years of fighting DC exclusively really didn't help Stipe. You train 3 years in a row for a certain fighter, then you have to deal with a completely different fighter with relatively little info on any updates he's made to his skillset. That sprawl to back take was the moment when I shifted to "wrestling is no longer an option for him, so he's probably fucked".
Jones is a scumbag who overestimates his worth. His last few fights have been mediocre fights where people think he lost if not for the shitty referees and acts very insecure online. He's not a draw like McGregor or Adesanya or Khabib or Ngannou. He doesn't KO people or have this aura of invincibility around him anymore. This idiot is going to price himself out of a fight and then cry about it when people shit on him.
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I doubt he will pop, because USADA testing is a joke and everyone else is using, too. It's just pretty obvious he was on something to add that much lean mass in such a short time period.
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Ngannou will eventually lose. HW talent outside of the top few is pretty shitty, though, but eventually he will get caught. The beautiful thing about MMA is that no matter what your strengths and style is, there is a way to exploit them. Honestly I think DC would be a nightmare matchup for Ngannou, and Jones has a legit shot (depending on how he is after his bulking up)
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USADA testing is a joke which really makes guys like Dillashaw and Jones look like muppets for popping. Ngannou has a few years on some of these guys though. He's 34? Probably go for 5 years before slowing down.
HWs currently are a joke talent wise. There is Blaydes, who still hasn't figured out how to set up takedowns and takes punishment because of it, Lewis and Rozenstruik who are plodders who wait for the one big shot and don't really do much else, Volkov who should be a good, tall rangy guy but loses to Blaydes and Lewis, and then there are the guys lower down the rankings like Augusto Sakai, who loses to an old, washed Overeem. Only guy I see who is interesting and may be a problem is Gane. He's young, has this weird point-karate style in spite being a Muay Thai fighter.
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Wrestling might have worked out if Stipe hadn't been like 30lbs lighter. What the fuck was he thinking going into the fight that light?