Military Equipment Sperging Thread - The Tiger II is a better tank than the M1 Abrams edition

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Type 10 MBT said:
Tl;dr: The JSDF has a high standard and good rediness but lacks the long term endurance China has with it's large military. A war with China is a game of battleship where making transiting costly is the name of the game
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I remember being told by a Japanese roommate once that people that serve in the Japanese military are considered "uneducated country bumpkins with a distinct accent" or as "failures at life" by most in Japan..... Unless you're an officer or a pilot.
 
Falcos_Commisar said:
I remember being told by a Japanese roommate once that people that serve in the Japanese military are considered "uneducated country bumpkins with a distinct accent" or as "failures at life" by most in Japan..... Unless you're an officer or a pilot
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In recent years the opinions shifted a little but not much yeah. Enlisting in the JGSDF is like you're dumb (even though theres exams to enter) Enlisting in the JMSDf means you want to be away but cant afford to go overseas and the JASDF is for smart people that work on planes. None of these are really accurate but Japanese boomers are kinda retarded and just like the US forced the whole "go to college or you're not shit to me" on their kids while themselves using college as a big vacation. These days if you don't have a degree and you don't have a job out of HS you're a dumb failure. Gen X is sorta like that as well. With millenials we've seen some appreciation for defense but also a lot of liberalism. Not sure what gen X will do but they like military models and making edits so it's something at least.
 
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donksmanSupreme42 said:
isnt that rly hard to aim and relstively inaccurate compared to more modern guidance methods?

feel free to correct me tho
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It's not. You keep the aiming thing at the target and the missile goes where it's pointed at. The main disadvantage is needing to stay in place until the missile hits and only once it impacts, only then you get the opportunity to reposition.
 
I've noticed a sudden influx of "american" youtube channels(it's AI) propping up the military and defense capabilities of MY country which is pretty weird. I think that counts as military equipment sperging.
 
donksmanSupreme42 said:
isnt that rly hard to aim and relstively inaccurate compared to more modern guidance methods?

feel free to correct me tho
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Against land vehicles SACLOS is pretty easy to use and is usually very reliable. Against rotary wing it's still decent, and against fixed wing its challenging. The RBS-70 is still in service, but I had a go at a simulator for one a few years ago and it's pretty hard to hit a fast mover, especially if they maneuver.
 
Type 10 MBT said:
Tl;dr: The JSDF has a high standard and good rediness but lacks the long term endurance China has with it's large military. A war with China is a game of battleship where making transiting costly is the name of the game.
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How much does the Japanese constitution affect the JSDF's capabilities? It sounds like the JSDF has a sufficient capability under traditional deterrence theory; but the past few decades has thrown a lot of those assumptions out of the window. My concern for Japan (and a lot of Western nations for that matter) is that they'll be found wishing they built up their initial capacity more.

And on a related note, does Japan still have a latent nuclear program? I know they had one for a lot of the Cold War.
 
Jewthulhu said:
How much does the Japanese constitution affect the JSDF's capabilities? It sounds like the JSDF has a sufficient capability under traditional deterrence theory; but the past few decades has thrown a lot of those assumptions out of the window. My concern for Japan (and a lot of Western nations for that matter) is that they'll be found wishing they built up their initial capacity more.

And on a related note, does Japan still have a latent nuclear program? I know they had one for a lot of the Cold War.
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Essentially the Japanese constitution doesn't stand in the way of much conventional capability. Anything non-nuclear (weapon) is okay to be built and used. Aircraft carriers by name are still technically a nono but reality is much different. Every few years it gets reinterpreted to mean when the MOD thinks it should. This is why recently Japan made commitments to defending Taiwan and allowing operation in Korea if the DPRK attacked Japan (and korea agrees to the help). A few years before that around 2021 it was reinterpreted to mean offensive operations can be used in defense I.E using Japanese military forces to strike staging areas and Chinese military bases. That then begs the question "why have it at all?" and it's because of two primary reasons. The first is the opposition to the current majority party won't allow article 9 to be removed from the constitution. It doesn't matter to them if the military technically already violates it, they just want a political rod to throw into the spokes of the LDP. Second is every, and I mean EVERY neighbor of Japan will lose their collective minds if Japan has military and not a "defense force". A few years ago the JGSDF added a Katana to their emblem and Korea launched into a protest and CHina denounced Japan for imperialist iconography. The political climate is extremely volatile right now and article 9's removal will have to come in either A a crisis or B a time of Japanese economical superiority over China and Korea combined (super ultra unlikely). This isn't to say it won't happen, I think eventually it will, but first the political headache of the region needs to be dealt with and Korea especially needs to set aside their hate for Japan to see China and NK are a much bigger issue.

What hamstrings Japan more than the constitution is the non-defense anti-military parties in the Japanese diet. While the LDP can push some things through the diet because of the majority (that sometimes goes away then comes back), not everything can be done via a push and must be voted on by the diet. The diet is made up of multiple seats occupied by 10 parties. The issue is that despite the LDP having the most seats of any one party, they don't hold the majority of the upper house at times. This means that the leftist parties can form a coalition and veto the governing LDP and they have to listen. Some of the minority parties enter a coalition with the LDP but sometimes, they choose to go the other way and it makes defense topics very difficult.

To answer question 2. Yes Japan has a latent nuclear program and routinely hires experts to maintain the ability to build nuclear reactors and weapons. It's not widely reported on for obvious reasons as its both secretive and not publicly funded but it's around. Small but around. I have been told in an informal setting with representatives of defense contractors like MHI that a nuclear submarine programs do exist on paper and are frequently updated. However as it was informal and its from him to me to you, bear in mind it's anecdotal. Delivery systems are also developed and frequently updated. That's part of why the H3 rocket program was so heavily funded. While the ability to send satelites and people in to space is the majority of the reason, it never hurts to have a modular rocket.

Tl;dr: Not much but it's problems stem not from stopping Japanese military buildup but rather as a tool used by anti-military groups within the Japanese diet.
 
The AGM-183 ARRW, a cancelled hypersonic glide missile intended for B-52 wing pylons, is recieving ~$400M in funding for 2026. Is this just fixes for known issues and pushing it to production, or shoving the flaws under the rug? You decide.


The South Korean Hyunmoo-5 ballistic missile has reached mass production. It uses penetrating conventional warheads between 8 and 9 tons to hit deep underground bunkers with a max range between 600km and 3000km depending on the warhead.

 
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VF-1J Armored Valkyrie said:
The AGM-183 ARRW, a cancelled hypersonic glide missile intended for B-52 wing pylons, is recieving ~$400M in funding for 2026. Is this just fixes for known issues and pushing it to production, or shoving the flaws under the rug? You decide.


The South Korean Hyunmoo-5 ballistic missile has reached mass production. It uses penetrating conventional warheads between 8 and 9 tons to hit deep underground bunkers with a max range between 600km and 3000km depending on the warhead.

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Many people forget that S. Korea has a robust ballistic missile program too
 
I know I just made a gay DAP post but what we really need to do is give Growler and F-35 their flowers. Venezuela had several Chinese radar systems at the core of ther IADS, including the JYL-1 long range 3D surveillance radar and the updated JY-27A 'anti-stealth' VHF/UHF radar, along with other smaller sets and FK-3 SAMs. It appears that these systems were completely disabled by the EA-18/F-35 electronic warfare wombo-combo, just like the Russian ones.



Speaking of the F-35 wombo combo, Northrop Grumman got another $100m for continued seeker R&D for their Stand-In Attack Weapon, an AGM-88 AARGM variant designed for F-35s to carry internally and use against high value radars, weapons, jammers, and C4I stuff after penetrating enemy AD. SiAW is supposed to enter service this year.

 
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More AARGM news for ya; NG is working on a ground launcher and a capsule system for submarines to launch the newest AARGM-ER variants, as well as a future XR variant with a new booster for longer range and higher top speed. A surface launched AARGM-ER is exepcted to have a max range of about ~150km. The Navy threw funding at the ground launcher in 2022, so I'd assume that USMC may pick it up eventually.


 
VF-1J Armored Valkyrie said:
I know I just made a gay DAP post but what we really need to do is give Growler and F-35 their flowers. Venezuela had several Chinese radar systems at the core of ther IADS, including the JYL-1 long range 3D surveillance radar and the updated JY-27A 'anti-stealth' VHF/UHF radar, along with other smaller sets and FK-3 SAMs. It appears that these systems were completely disabled by the EA-18/F-35 electronic warfare wombo-combo, just like the Russian ones.
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One does also have to ask the question of the soft factors like how serious is Venezuelan training and how competent their officer corps are. Then again, I do wonder how much the PRC got to learn from this for future developments of their radar systems.
 
The Grognard said:
One does also have to ask the question of the soft factors like how serious is Venezuelan training and how competent their officer corps are. Then again, I do wonder how much the PRC got to learn from this for future developments of their radar systems.
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All valid questions. Venezuelan soft qualities are invariably substandard, I don't think anyone reasonable would argue against that. By now I would imagine that there isn't much data available on F-35 that couldn't have also been observed over Syria or Iran, but any exposure assists in modeling. But at the same time, the EW blackout seems to have been so complete that I wonder how much useful data could've really been gathered here. There is also reporting that the Growlers were using the new NGJ midband jammers, and while that's not quite as sensitive as data for modeling profiles on stealth aircraft and only one part of the Next Gen Jammer family, that's still an exposure. Same for the F-35 jamming functions.

All in all, I think the risk is worth it if it leads to sweeping hostile governments out of the Americas. We'll need to wait and see if that's really what we end up getting.
 
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VF-1J Armored Valkyrie said:
All valid questions. Venezuelan soft qualities are invariably substandard, I don't think anyone reasonable would argue against that. By now I would imagine that there isn't much data available on F-35 that couldn't have also been observed over Syria or Iran, but any exposure assists in modeling. But at the same time, the EW blackout seems to have been so complete that I wonder how much useful data could've really been gathered here. There is also reporting that the Growlers were using the new NGJ midband jammers, and while that's not quite as sensitive as data for modeling profiles on stealth aircraft and being only one part of the Next Gen Jammer family, that's still an exposure.
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Were I in charge of documenting such data, every embassy in the uncle sam's to-do list of countries would have a suite of instruments designed to detect and document electromagnetic emissions in order to determine exact wave lengths and patterns. Preferably with some back-up generators in case the grid gets fucked as well.
VF-1J Armored Valkyrie said:
All in all, I think the risk is worth it if it leads to sweeping hostile governments out of the Americas. We'll need to wait and see if that's really what we end up getting.
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If there is one thing USA is good at, it's creating hostile governments. Good luck with that.
 
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