Military Equipment Sperging Thread - The Tiger II is a better tank than the M1 Abrams edition

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MIC Shill said:
Gonna use the M4 platform for the next 50 years.
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5.56x45 is more or less the pinnacle of small arms design under current tech and materials science. Its pointless to try and replace the M4 outside of graft and kick backs.
Internorth Inc said:
Even when small arms production was under the purview of the Ord. Dept. it was at least split between different arsenals (both Rock Island and Springfield manufactured M1903s for example). Even if, and that's a big if, all the Sig products see widespread adoption I wouldn't be surprised if the Army gives Sig the Colt treatment and:
A) forces them to allow licensed production with other manufacturers
or
B) gives future contracts to other manufacturers
I don't really find either of these likely considering that the XM7 and all its proprietary accoutrements are likely to be shitcanned in the near future. Considering that not only is the whole NSGW program retarded, its also a product of the Biden-Milley years which this current admin seems keen on cutting (such as the M10).
Also Colt got a contract for more M4s quite recently, so I've got as much faith in the XM7 as I do the DSM-5.
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US small arms development has been absolute dog shit since Browning went to Europe. The only reason we even ended up going down the path of the M-16 was by complete accident in the first place.

I dont know what it is but the people in charge of small arms are some serious fucking idiots. Literally retarded project after retarded project that just wastes money, the XM-7 being the latest incarnation. And before it there was the XM-8(litearlly just a reskinned G-36), before that was the OICW that the XM-8 evolved from and before that there was the G-11. its fucking a never ending cycle of dipshits handing their friends sweet heart deals.
WelperHelper99 said:
The Black Hawk is going to fucking rest soon. Maybe. Lets hope it actually fucking works. It'll be based if it actually does.
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It should, its infinitely simpler than the Osprey.
 
The best German AFV of WWII wasn't a tank.

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Hatewerfer said:
Should have just kept making the original, plug in some new electronics, slap in a turboprop (although there is nothing wrong with the good ol corncob radial), use one of the AD-5 variants with side-by-side seating and get to blasting.
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Why spend billions on a gay cropduster when you could have the original and best skyraider?
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They want to replace the OV-10 for one:
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A light attack AND observation plane. The Skyraider II has a shit ton of cameras, laser designators, observation equipment in general. That's because it's fulfilling a role the Bronco used to. Attack and see shit for the greater force, or in this case, special forces.
 
WelperHelper99 said:
They want to replace the OV-10 for one:
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=sVNOCTLw5tkA light attack AND observation plane. The Skyraider II has a shit ton of cameras, laser designators, observation equipment in general. That's because it's fulfilling a role the Bronco used to. Attack and see shit for the greater force, or in this case, special forces.
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The problem that I see with Modern military weapons is the shock and awe of technology and that will win wars.

Well, that is not the case. As proven with the Current Ruzzian Conflict. Million dollar vehicles being taken down by thousand dollar drones.

This also happen during the Serbian War which Dumb ass Clinton what going to Shoch And Awe the Serbs into capitulation with the ALL MIGHTY AIR FORCE.

Dumb asses and their ignorance. It was a total failure. It took an complete supply/food embargo to stop the conflict. And the Serb Army coming from certain report at least 70%+ of total military assets they retained after the conflict.

So bad was the results that the US had to change once again change their military protocal, mostly back to a combine arms approach to warfare.

IMHO of course...
Your military assests must have have both high and low tech, but most of all RELIABILITY.
The OV10. The A-10. The A37 Dragonfly Super Tweet all have these traits in common.

1. Durable as hell.
2. Ease of use.
3. Repairability.
4. MULITPLE REDUNANT SYSTEMS THAT INCLUDE ANALOG SYSTEMS.
5. Does not cost an arm and a leg.

The problem with the US is the fucking bloatware of bullshit they are putting on their vehicles. Making them so much of an easier target for Anti Vehicle Weapons.

I can go on and on and on about having both high tech and low tech weaponry this as I had some family in the defense industry years ago, but again, IMHO... You must have both high tech and low tech in todays modern day battlefield.

Here's two video on the A37 Dragonfly Super Tweet


 
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TheRedChair said:
The problem that I see with Modern military weapons is the shock and awe of technology and that will win wars.

Well, that is not the case. As proven with the Current Ruzzian Conflict. Million dollar vehicles being taken down by thousand dollar drones.

This also happen during the Serbian War which Dumb ass Clinton what going to Shoch And Awe the Serbs into capitulation with the ALL MIGHTY AIR FORCE.

Dumb asses and their ignorance. It was a total failure. It took an complete supply/food embargo to stop the conflict. And the Serb Army coming from certain report at least 70%+ of total military assets they retained after the conflict.

So bad was the results that the US had to change once again change their military protocal, mostly back to a combine arms approach to warfare.

IMHO of course...
Your military assests must have have both high and low tech, but most of all RELIABILITY.
The OV10. The A-10. The A37 Dragonfly Super Tweet all have these traits in common.

1. Durable as hell.
2. Ease of use.
3. Repairability.
4. MULITPLE REDUNANT SYSTEMS THAT INCLUDE ANALOG SYSTEMS.
5. Does not cost an arm and a leg.

The problem with the US is the fucking bloatware of bullshit they are putting on their vehicles. Making them so much of an easier target for Anti Vehicle Weapons.

I can go on and on and on about having both high tech and low tech weaponry this as I had some family in the defense industry years ago, but again, IMHO... You must have both high tech and low tech in todays modern day battlefield.

Here's two video on the A37 Dragonfly Super Tweet
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That is what a lot of Army restructuring is currently leading to. Getting rid of bullet sponges, focusing on things like drones and more survivable platforms. It's why the OA-1K Skyraider II exists; a low cost platform for special forces troops to get a picture of the battlefield and lay down precision fire. It's literally based off a crop duster for robustness and short takeoff capabilities.

And yes the Dragonfly is kino.
 
WelperHelper99 said:
A light attack AND observation plane. The Skyraider II has a shit ton of cameras, laser designators, observation equipment in general. That's because it's fulfilling a role the Bronco used to. Attack and see shit for the greater force, or in this case, special forces.
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Fair enough, there are plenty of good things to see with the Skyraider II's multipurpose abilities and lesser logistical footprint, but I know which ones I'd rather be piloting/crewing in case of actual action, let alone if I was a man on the ground needing immediate fire support. Also it really boggles the mind to see that the Skyraider II doesn't have ejection seats but the original had the Yankee system and the Bronco had proper ejection seats, I know I'd want to have an escape system if I was flying over bad terrain occupied by the enemy at low altitude.
Low cost platform however is an oxymoron in the modern military procurement systems of most if not all western nations, see the utter disaster of the M1161 Growler as just one of many examples. Even that shitty little Osprey-transportable notjeep cost stupid amounts of money, imagine how bad it must be for aircraft.
 
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The Norks just commissioned their first Choe Hyon Destroyer.
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5000 tons, 72 VLS cells, Pantsir style cwis in the back, 130/127(?)mm indigenous gun, two dual torpedo launchers, two AK-630 CWIS, anti ship missiles, and various other systems. Notable for having a phased array, much like a AGEIS destroyer, albeit a older type.

Now on that extreme VLS to weight ratio
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This ship is COVERED with multiple cells of multiple sizes. Those big ones in the back are probably ballistic missiles. This thing has a fuck ton of fire power, but considering it only weighs 1000 pounds more than a Perry, it sounds like a fire hazard.


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Thread 'North Korea's huge new warship sinks during launch in front of Kim Jong-un' https://kiwifarms.net/threads/north...during-launch-in-front-of-kim-jong-un.220139/

The new North Korean glass cannon destroyer tipped over during launch.
 
The Japanese ASM-3 Kai is supposed to be reaching production some time this year. The 3A has been in service since 2021 with a 400km range, top speed over Mach 3, and active radar guidance with GPS/INS. The Kai model is supposed to introduce an additional passive seeker, a low observable body, and potentially provisions for a new booster to push the range out to 1000km. Compared to the Taiwanese HF-3s and the Chinese YJ-12s and 18s, the LO body and active/passive seeker probably mean the Kai is going to be the top supersonic ASM in the Pacific.

https://therandomjapan.com/asm-3-missile/
 
Russia is introducing a new air-to-air nuclear missile, which this article believes to be an upgrade of the R-37M.
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The Soviet Union frequently publicly denounced the idea that a nuclear war can stay "limited," which is why it's so interesting to me that Russia seems to be building up a limited nuclear war capability. It's a 180 from their original doctrine.
 
Yours Truly 2095 said:
Germans have got the light tank thing down. Shove all the small Latinx in these

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The U.S. Army did trial the Wiesel and it did not do well.Link
Quote from Manic Moran aka The Chieftain in the youtube sphere.
It included 'variants', so CV90-105 and CV90-120 were different, as were the SK-105A1 and SK-105 A2/A3.

Not 'entrants', this was in the very early concept phase where they were trying to figure out if there might be a solution already available off the shelf without having to go through the trouble of developing an entirely new vehicle. There was a list of some 35 vehicles considered overall, varying from 'sensible-ish' like Rosomak or LAV-105, to 'seriously?' (Bringing M551 back).

Wiesel didn't go well. Apparently they tried dropping them in tests, four were destroyed out of four tried. It's just too lightly built.
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WelperHelper99 said:
Getting rid of bullet sponges, focusing on things like drones and more survivable platforms.
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I dont see it. The US military is still treating the application of drones like a piloting an F-16 thats going to drop a JDAM. Instead of going hey I have this weapon system what new doctrine can I create because of it, its how can I fit this weapon system in current doctrine? The MIC still refuses to accept even the dumbest cavedwelling retard has the exact same firepower capability as the US with its hundred billions of dollars invested in manned aircraft flown by highly trained skilled pilots dropping gps guided munitions called in by highly trained FACs.

Call me when were building drone factories capable producing hundreds of the things a day and giving tactical control to the squad level. Its going to take a lot of dead US soldiers to over come the intertia of the past 70 years of US military doctrine. But hey what do the Generals in charge care? They wont be the ones being blown into chunks in crisp 4k resolution.
 
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74164978231 said:
The MIC still refuses to accept even the dumbest cavedwelling retard has the exact same firepower capability as the US with its hundred billions of dollars invested in manned aircraft flown by highly trained skilled pilots dropping gps guided munitions called in by highly trained FACs.
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Funny how both sides of the largest and most sophisticated drone war in history are still using guided bombs and expensive long range missiles everywhere they can, if this is truly the case. That kind of hilariously overstated opinion is what those same generals use as a strawman to defend the doctrines that actually need changing. They circulate this shit in their heads as what proponents of this drone revolution coming from the ground floor of current drone operations actually think, and they're lying to themselves for it because nobody with any idea whats going on actually thinks that way.

The drone takeover is inevitable but JDAMs and the like still aren't going anywhere.
 
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