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There is a new patch out that supposedly fixes the issue.
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Yes praise the curry saar. The new Windows 11 patch fixes the issue where 'Shut Down' won't work.
You know that thing thats been an operation of computers since the first percieved OS. Praise the javascript saaar computer can shut down now saaar.
Windows 11 is a fucking disaster
You know that thing thats been an operation of computers since the first percieved OS. Praise the javascript saaar computer can shut down now saaar.
Windows 11 is a fucking disaster
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It's too bad that you can't install OSX on windows computers, because if that were true there would be no more windows users.
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With very careful hardware selection, you can. It isn't exactly noob shit though so most people wouldn't do it. Not sure if it's possible for the bleeding edge versions.
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In hobbyist parlance, it is called building a "Hackintosh". You have to get very specific pieces of PC hardware and compatible drivers to do it. The biggest issue is the fact that you run the risk of your "Hackintosh" not working anymore whenever your hardware components have a driver update or a new release of OSX.
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I understand that the entire mentality of Apple is to be uniform and sandbox everything for safety reasons, I'm just saying people hate windows enough that if something had professional program/enterprise program support like OSX on "any hardware" Windows would probably be destroyed.
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To be fair, I do not mind OSX as an operating system, just that Apple's hardware has been traditionally more expensive than PC hardware and offered fewer choices, especially in terms of the hobbyist market.
In a perfect world, major computer operating systems would be designed to operate on different types of hardware, but that would never happen, because of the incentive for major operating system designers to lock people in to the markets of specific hardware vendors that they have contracts with.
You can make Windows look more OSX-like using Power Shell, and there are versions of Linux that look very similar to OSX.
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It's bad enough that somebody who gave a shit could make a serious dent in Windows. The only companies in a place to do this are IBM (because they own Red Hat) and Google (because they're Google), but neither of them seem to give a shit.
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IBM have never shown much interest in the consumer market. Even the PC was mainly targeted at small businesses. People keep calling that dumb, but it’s worth pointing out IBM are still alive and well after every one of their rivals has fallen.
Scaling Android up into a full desktop system with all the compatibility requirements that entails is a very tall order. They could target their own specific hardware like Apple does, in which case they’d produce a high-end Chromebook. Which are actually already a thing, like this piece of insanity.
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Unisys would like a word.
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Anything from Google would probably also be loaded with ads, spyware, and data-collection.
I think that the only way Linux could ever become a viable third choice instead of just something for power users and hobbyists, is if the Linux community cooperated enough (Haha) to make a Windows-like distro and specifically gear it towards the business community and corporate world. Microsoft has only cared about the home PC market as a distant second compared to its business clients.
If Linux could win over more of the corporate market with one or two big "business-oriented" distros, then I think you would start to see some real gains in terms of its influence as the opinions of corporations are the ones that really matter in terms of operating system development and adoption.
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This wasn't always true. In the 90s Windows 95 & 98 were the top dog and those were 100% focused on home users.
Selling software to enterprise customers was very different then, mostly specific users wanted spreadsheets.
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I'll never get over Linux autists believing Windows users desperately want Linux to look and feel like Windows and that's somehow the great hurdle standing between us and the mythical Year of the Linux Desktop. They've been repeating this nonsense for 20 years now and in the meantime literally billions of people adopted Android and iOS and neither of them function anything like Windows at all.
Nobody cares what Linux looks like. People want their desktop software to work on their desktop computer and some software working some of the time with enough fiddle-fucking doesn't cut it.
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Tahoe (the current version) is the last that will support x86. If you have reasonably recent (less than a decade old) AMD GPU you can run a semi-current version in KVM with GPU passthrough (for example on Proxmox) and remote into it using Parsec. Works pretty well, but I also like the irony of running the most noob friendly OS in the most noob unfriendly way possible.
I still don't like using MacOS but that's a separate issue, I actually think Windows is still better for most people.
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Yes. What I have in mind is that a lot of the enterprise market is pretty ticked off at Windows 11 right now. IBM could target a Fedora derivative with a new DE at the enterprise, addressing various reasons Linux has near-zero adoption. Could, not would. IBM's not interested in pursuing new markets or new business. IBM these days is a massive consulting company with a vestigial technology company attached. They're also more likely to fire everyone at Red Hat and replace them with Indians than actually have them do anything strategically useful.
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If Valve can make linux normie friendly and if Apple can take all of the super duper scary and unpolished parts of unix away, then a company with a vested interest can make linux more user friendly to people who don't want to read massive tomes given to computer science students. I don't think Microsoft would even give a shit anymore. If it doesn't make the line go up, then they don't care. Windows doesn't make the line go up.
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Most home users probably do not care about what their OS looks like as long as it is functional, user-friendly, and uncluttered. However, the business world is so used to Windows and its legacy associated programs, that they would not even look at a replacement OS unless it was very similar to what most corporations and their employees have been already trained in on using for decades.
If Linux could gain a significant foothold in the corporate market, then it could get somewhere but it would be an uphill battle as most of the corporate environment values legacy computing over new developments.
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I don't see Linux EVER getting a real foothold in the corporate market for desktop computers, but I also don't see it losing its huge foothold in the server end of things.
Microsoft is currently absolute shit at servers. Nothing as unreliable as this can be trusted.
The last version they had that was actually an excellent server (mostly for things like fileservers) was NT 3.5.1. Damn that was rock solid. But IMO they only did that shit to kill Novell Netware, and I'll never forgive them for that. Fuckers. Novell was the absolute GOAT of fileservers.
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On win11, when you have your screen split between two windows, and try to change the width of one, the other turns into the "liquid glass" and you can't see it's contents.
On the other hand, I do like that they included more "presets" for the window splitting.
Ad desktop linux: I think the main reason is honestly just inertia. From the people I talk to, the most common sentiment I hear is something like "Well, I dislike windows, and I've been thinking about trying out linux, but windows still works well enough for me not to try something new.". This includes a lot of people I not consider tech savvy (but competent enough to use a computer on their own). Whenever I show someone a working linux install, they love it.
Linux IMO just needs to not fuck everything up and shit itself (this seems to be what they are trying to do) and wait until windows gets jeetified enough for normies to start trying linux out on their own (we are very close to this tipping point, more and more people are beyond it now).
On the other hand, I do like that they included more "presets" for the window splitting.
Ad desktop linux: I think the main reason is honestly just inertia. From the people I talk to, the most common sentiment I hear is something like "Well, I dislike windows, and I've been thinking about trying out linux, but windows still works well enough for me not to try something new.". This includes a lot of people I not consider tech savvy (but competent enough to use a computer on their own). Whenever I show someone a working linux install, they love it.
Linux IMO just needs to not fuck everything up and shit itself (this seems to be what they are trying to do) and wait until windows gets jeetified enough for normies to start trying linux out on their own (we are very close to this tipping point, more and more people are beyond it now).