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The past few days have been the first time I've ever tried to use GunBroker. Jesus Christ that web site is an abomination. When does this auction end? Countdown timer? Never heard of it. Just mash F5 repeatedly. They couldn't find a high school kid to fix that place? /rant
 
The past few days have been the first time I've ever tried to use GunBroker. Jesus Christ that web site is an abomination. When does this auction end? Countdown timer? Never heard of it. Just mash F5 repeatedly. They couldn't find a high school kid to fix that place? /rant
it's pretty bad. I sell on there because you generally can get a better price. but for buying i use guns international. no auction non-sense, just the price the seller wants. very clear and despite looking like a site from 2010, it is very easy to navigate and organized.
 
it's pretty bad. I sell on there because you generally can get a better price. but for buying i use guns international. no auction non-sense, just the price the seller wants. very clear and despite looking like a site from 2010, it is very easy to navigate and organized.
There's a NOS part I really want that seems to only be available there but have lost count of the ways I'm about to be scammed trying to win it. It almost looks like it was built for straw-buying tricks.
 
The hate on PCCs does not make a lick of sense to me. Sure, you probably wouldn't want a civilian PCC if you're going into the next civil war, but if you're just worried about putting down some mud monkeys breaking in to rape your wife, then it will do the job just fine.
 
The hate on PCCs does not make a lick of sense to me. Sure, you probably wouldn't want a civilian PCC if you're going into the next civil war, but if you're just worried about putting down some mud monkeys breaking in to rape your wife, then it will do the job just fine.
Sure. But a Unicylce might be better then walking but its hardly a great tool for taking a trip to the store.

Blowback PPCs:
>Big/unconcealable
>Don't suppress well
>Generally rapid development cycle with poor/cheap manufactoring
>Very little gained in terminal ballistics vs handgun
>Falls far short in terminal ballostics of SBR
>Often propriatary parts
>Low rate of fire
>Bad recoil impulse

Vs say the MP5 which does it right
>Gas operated roller delayed
>High rate of fire
>low recoil impulse
>suppresses well
>excellent quality parta
>long in depth development time
>established aftermarket

You need to do a lot of things very well and right before you have any sort of edge or reason to take one over a Mk18.
 
Sure. But a Unicylce might be better then walking but its hardly a great tool for taking a trip to the store.

Blowback PPCs:
>Big/unconcealable
>Don't suppress well
>Generally rapid development cycle with poor/cheap manufactoring
>Very little gained in terminal ballistics vs handgun
>Falls far short in terminal ballostics of SBR
>Often propriatary parts
>Low rate of fire
>Bad recoil impulse

Vs say the MP5 which does it right
>Gas operated roller delayed
>High rate of fire
>low recoil impulse
>suppresses well
>excellent quality parta
>long in depth development time
>established aftermarket

You need to do a lot of things very well and right before you have any sort of edge or reason to take one over a Mk18.
The main ones I hear are normally
1. cheaper ammo
2. less recoil
3. cheaper gun (in some cases)
People don't really need after market as long as it takes glock mags and fires 9mm, they'll toss a red dot and a light on it and call it good.
 
If it doesn't say Heckler & Koch on it, then it isn't a real MP5K. Its a cheap knock-off.
I mean yeah true tbh. But the clones aren't bad so long as they're military contract guns or at minimum the parts are. I have a c93 ( Malaysian contract) G3 ( Portuguese contract) and that cope mp5k. Just have to QC the clones but they're solid if you wanna scratch an itch. I almost never see people actually shooting hk91/33s or SP5s, they're mostly safe queens.
 
The main ones I hear are normally
1. cheaper ammo
2. less recoil
3. cheaper gun (in some cases)
People don't really need after market as long as it takes glock mags and fires 9mm, they'll toss a red dot and a light on it and call it good.
And that is all very much reasonable as a sales pitch or a buyer for plinking. I can appreciate that, but it isn't a great buy for any sort of tactical/defensive application usually.
 
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For all the 3D print nerds the XM5.7 has officially released. Uses a 3DP90 barrel. A complete hardware kit can be purchased here for $450 if you go for a barrel, pre-poured bolt, mag conversion, and grenade launcher hardware. I am building one
 
The main ones I hear are normally
1. cheaper ammo
2. less recoil
3. cheaper gun (in some cases)
People don't really need after market as long as it takes glock mags and fires 9mm, they'll toss a red dot and a light on it and call it good.
Concerning ammo, yes, pistol ball ammo for 9mm is cheaper than .223/5.56. Depending on your PCC a self-defense round may have feed issues like with the colt AR-9 style PCCs have. If the feed ramp is fairly long, a hollow point has the potential to jam the carbine while being loaded, especially if gets dirty or the ramp wears out from consistent use.

Generally if takes glock mags, it could be reliable but hard to conceal because most of them are direct blowback buffer tube. I'll take a 11.5 SBR over any smaller length PCC in any use case. Yes the backpack PDW use case exists but if things are so bad where I need bring a PCC in backpack while in public, then I'm staying home.
 
Sure. But a Unicylce might be better then walking but its hardly a great tool for taking a trip to the store.

Blowback PPCs:
>Big/unconcealable
>Don't suppress well
>Generally rapid development cycle with poor/cheap manufactoring
>Very little gained in terminal ballistics vs handgun
>Falls far short in terminal ballostics of SBR
>Often propriatary parts
>Low rate of fire
>Bad recoil impulse

Vs say the MP5 which does it right
>Gas operated roller delayed
>High rate of fire
>low recoil impulse
>suppresses well
>excellent quality parta
>long in depth development time
>established aftermarket

You need to do a lot of things very well and right before you have any sort of edge or reason to take one over a Mk18.
The edge and reason is price. I think some of you guys forget that normal people see a gun that's north of $3000 when they need a nigger whipper and laugh, but will spend ~$600 bucks for a blowback PCC that uses the same ammo as their handgun, or uses cheap ammo they can get easily. Your average normalfag doesn't even put a sling on their gun or have a holster for their handgun, so they usually also don't care about the aftermarket, nor are they running cans either.

If you're a gun guy and have the money, then yeah, why would you buy some cheap blowback PCC when there are so many better options? But if you just need a piece for defense, then a normal PCC will do the job fine. My first semi auto long gun was a PCC for defense specifically because it was affordable, I had the ammo from my handgun, and niggers were chimping in 2020 and my 10+1 handgun suddenly felt a lot less adequate than I used to think it was. Lots of people are like that. Yeah, if you have the money, the MP5 is much better, but that's like saying that a Range Rover is better than a Kia; sometimes people just want to get from A to B.
 
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The edge and reason is price.
I don't assume people who fall into this are stupid, only misinformed by an oversaturated market that plays on the ignorance of its customers.

Ultimately, its a result of idiots making 5 star unboxing reviews and not holding the manufacters responsible for gunslop. Also the drooling retards like the pewpewtactical guys who just shill retarded shit. Here a PSA 9mm AK makes their fucking list but the Banishee only gets a special snowflake category nod. https://www.pewpewtactical.com/pistol-caliber-carbines/

If you feel the need to have a gun but realistically know you aren't going to shoot it enough to have its particular idiosynchrisies or logistics actually matter, the most important factor is "goes bang every time" so you should probably just get a Maverick 88.
 
I've been thinking of getting another 5.56 can and can't decide between a flow through or a regular. It would probably be a dedicated can for my 11.5 rifle. Currently I just have one can with a QD that I rotate between my rifles but my 11.5 carbon locks like a bitch when I'm shooting a lot. It also fouls up pretty fast, but I could probably tune it a little better.

My original plan was going to get a OCL Polonium K or a Gemtech Trek or some shit and just leave it on. Since I've been looking at cans I have done more research on flow through and it does seem pretty cool, but double the price. Huxwrx as an example is $700~ more than either of the ones I mentioned.

Should I just buy once, cry once with a flow through or just get a cheapo direct thread can?

 
Should I just buy once, cry once with a flow through or just get a cheapo direct thread can?
I feel like this really comes down to personal preference and budget. I love the polonium because it's cheap, quiet, and fairly durable, but it doesn't do flow through things. If you want something with very low back pressure that's also fairly quiet, you'll need to spend more money.
 
Should I just buy once, cry once with a flow through or just get a cheapo direct thread can?
I think the Velos is probably the right way to go. The whole idea behind flowthrough is that you put it on and it just works. If you were to get a YHM direct thread or similar you've sort of resigned yourself to having to tweak that gun to tune it, while still not having a suppressor you can easily float to others rifles.
 
I've got a couple of pistols that I want to get rid of on Gunbroker, how simple is this to do without an FFL? Do I just ship the gun to their FFL after getting paid?

Edit: I'm in a purpletard state, no specifics obviously, and not California.
 
I've got a couple of pistols that I want to get rid of on Gunbroker, how simple is this to do without an FFL? Do I just ship the gun to their FFL after getting paid?

Edit: I'm in a purpletard state, no specifics obviously, and not California.
Pretty much yeah, the cleanest way to do it is to have your FFL ship to their FFL or wait until the new USPS rule kicks in and 2 Day your pistols to their FFL. For the love of god insure for the total value and require signature that way if some USPS worker steals your package you can get insurance + get the ATF involved to maybe recover your gun. Try TACSWAP and require paypal FF or money order then ship that way you avoide gunbroker fees.
 
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