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Personally I wasn't a fan for two reasons, the beaver puke hardware had a tendency to get hot fast and stay hot and the piston system didn't like certain types of ammo mainly the steel case variety and they'd lock up in the chamber until it cooled down.I was a kid in those days and reading those old Cheaper than Dirt catalogs was like looking at a porno mag. All those cool ass guns I couldn't get because my family lived in fucking California.
Might have just been cosmoline residue stuck in the chamber. The Czechs were making steelcase like every other Combloc country during the cold war.Personally I wasn't a fan for two reasons, the beaver puke hardware had a tendency to get hot fast and stay hot and the piston system didn't like certain types of ammo mainly the steel case variety and they'd lock up in the chamber until it cooled down.
.38 is fun out of a lever gun. My dad bought one of those cringe Rossi .357s with the American flag etched on the side. My ears get a little red everytime it comes out of the sock, but it's mad fun to shoot at spinners or bottles/cans whatever.Had no idea that .357 leverguns also shot .38 for some reason. Might sell my PSA AR9 pistol and get one of those instead. Might be a little bit more accurate.
Now to find a used one at a good price.....38 is fun out of a lever gun. My dad bought one of those cringe Rossi .357s with the American flag etched on the side. My ears get a little red everytime it comes out of the sock, but it's mad fun to shoot at spinners or bottles/cans whatever.
I bought him the .44 Magnum Henry and it takes .44 special. Also fun, but those magnums are loud as fuck. I'm contemplating borrowing it to deer hunt this year just because I'd like to take one with a pistol round. I will say the finish is kinda weird. It's not blued or case hardened. It's almost like an anodized finish. I don't know my ass from a hole in the ground as far as finishes go though.
I would probably look for a Marlin or Rossi. They trend on the cheaper side. I vaguely remember seeing Marlins for ~$450, but that was in .30-30 and it was also in Bud's in Lexington like six years ago so that's probably useless information.Now to find a used one at a good price....
I wouldn't be surprised if you ran into weird cycling/extraction issues or other strangeness. I generally give weird loadings like that a wide berth unless it's out of something that doesn't rely on recoil/blowback to cycle the action, but that's just me.i can't find anything for sure from search results but i already trust the opinions of kiwis more than anywhere else online... i'm looking at some of that 40-60gr +P 9mm ammo that comes out at like 2k feet per second and i'm trying to find out if my ARV is robust enough to handle 9 that spicy. i think i read blowback systems can't take it but i also think i read i just need to do a little bit of buffer fooling. i also eventually want to throw on a shorter buffer tube but i'm not sure what hell on earth i'm in for by doing it
the only time the AK is a decent option is in a unfree market though. they are expensive guns to make. they were only so cheap because commies subsidized the manufacture of millions of the things.On the US commercial market, the AK used to be the best option for the poors because imports were cheap and a-plenty, but now artificial scarcity has made it a lot more niche. Once the cheap Tula on tap got cut off by Biden's sanctions, the party was ogre. AR's are just more practical these days and I say this as a former AKfag.
In a truly free market, the AK is a decent option, but the market is no longer free. Well, it really hasn't been in the US since 1934.
LMAO a marlin is $900 at least. $1,000 is more likely.I would probably look for a Marlin or Rossi. They trend on the cheaper side. I vaguely remember seeing Marlins for ~$450, but that was in .30-30 and it was also in Bud's in Lexington like six years ago so that's probably useless information.
Having looked you are correct. How did we get to the point where a 336 is $1200 MSRP? This shit is insane. I swear they were half that or less in 2017-18. They were so cheap I impulse bought one when I was just killing time downtown. I know I didn't pay more than $500 for it new.LMAO a marlin is $900 at least. $1,000 is more likely.
because they were poorly made and then were out of production for years. Now the factory is in north Carolina and Ruger is making them. Quality costs money.Having looked you are correct. How did we get to the point where a 336 is $1200 MSRP? This shit is insane. I swear they were half that or less in 2017-18. They were so cheap I impulse bought one when I was just killing time downtown. I know I didn't pay more than $500 for it new.
I'll defer to you. Though Ruger being associated with quality sounds almost as absurd as Marlins doubling in price.because they were poorly made and then were out of production for years. Now the factory is in north Carolina and Ruger is making them. Quality costs money.
Ruger can be quality when they want to be, its just that for the most part that is not their market.I'll defer to you. Though Ruger being associated with quality sounds almost as absurd as Marlins doubling in price.
I'll admit I was just ignorant to it. Aside from a Henry I bought for my dad recently I haven't been involved with a lever gun of any recent make. On the purchasing end, I mean.and the new pricing is not outside of industry norms. Comparable guns from good manufacturers are all about the same MSRP.
i don't have experience with the PSA ARV, but a select-fire Colt SMG (model R0991) will shoot M882 9x19mm NATO at 1200+ f/s all day long with a 5.5oz buffer and normal carbine recoil spring. note that part of Colt's (and KAC's, LWRC and a few others) bolt saver modifications is the addition of a 1/4" hard rubber or PVC spacer at the end of the receiver extension to limit bolt travel. that way the free movement of the bolt carrier group isn't smashing into your bolt catch all the time.40-60gr +P 9mm ammo that comes out at like 2k feet per second and i'm trying to find out if my ARV is robust enough
Golly, can't wait to spend two thousand dollars on a tiny not-AK with next to no aftermarket support that also may or may not cycle based on how well it was converted using proprietary magazines and will burn the fuck out of my support hand after firing maybe a magazine.Old man shouting at clouds but I remember being able to get a cherry Vz.58 with five mags, the pouch to hold them, sling and bayonet for under 700.
Could've also been the lacquered Czech ammunition. I had a Czech 7.62x25mm case get stuck in the chamber of my Tokarev, had to hammer it out with a cleaning rod. Found a big gob of lacquer on the side of the case, I suspect it got stuck because of that. Didn't seem like the lacquer melted or anything, but it created enough friction to prevent it from extracting.Might have just been cosmoline residue stuck in the chamber. The Czechs were making steelcase like every other Combloc country during the cold war.
Post-commie countries still have the tooling to make AK's for relatively cheap. They'd cost less without stuff like 922r saying they have to have a certain number of US-made parts in them.the only time the AK is a decent option is in a unfree market though. they are expensive guns to make. they were only so cheap because commies subsidized the manufacture of millions of the things.
That's only half useless info. I don't really trust Marlin because Freedom Group did a number on their quality control a decade ago.I would probably look for a Marlin or Rossi. They trend on the cheaper side. I vaguely remember seeing Marlins for ~$450, but that was in .30-30 and it was also in Bud's in Lexington like six years ago so that's probably useless information.