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AN/ALR-56 said:
Get this one fam
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I'd love to have a Luger carbine, but they are DAMN expensive.
 
it's typically easier to SBR a factory made pistol. for the KRISS Vector, i've done a few SBR registrations, but it will void the warranty unless you pay KRISSUSA to do it for you. they say it's because of how the barrel is installed, which does not make sense to me as it is not pinned on the post-sample, SDP, or CRB i have - it's just threaded into the trunnion and then held in place by grooves the side plates. perhaps they are covering themselves. it does take some minor work to fit a stock on the SDP, the CRB merely needs the barrel trimmed to length, recrowned, and refinished.

as for the P.08 carbine, talk to Neil at Kustom Ballistics for a quote. he does excellent work, and while expensive, it isn't out of reach for most as he can build them as a rifle from the shop, or if you give him an existing one, perform the form 1 for you to form 4 later. expect $3k+ for a very nice example.

9mm AR-15's are getting quite popular these days as well. personally i would get one prior to an MPX unless the MPX takes either UZI magazines or MP5/HK54 magazines as both of those are extremely popular an inexpensive on the open market.
 
Club Sandwich said:
it's typically easier to SBR a factory made pistol. for the KRISS Vector, i've done a few SBR registrations, but it will void the warranty unless you pay KRISSUSA to do it for you. they say it's because of how the barrel is installed, which does not make sense to me as it is not pinned on the post-sample, SDP, or CRB i have - it's just threaded into the trunnion and then held in place by grooves the side plates. perhaps they are covering themselves. it does take some minor work to fit a stock on the SDP, the CRB merely needs the barrel trimmed to length, recrowned, and refinished.

as for the P.08 carbine, talk to Neil at Kustom Ballistics for a quote. he does excellent work, and while expensive, it isn't out of reach for most as he can build them as a rifle from the shop, or if you give him an existing one, perform the form 1 for you to form 4 later. expect $3k+ for a very nice example.

9mm AR-15's are getting quite popular these days as well. personally i would get one prior to an MPX unless the MPX takes either UZI magazines or MP5/HK54 magazines as both of those are extremely popular an inexpensive on the open market.
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The MPX does take proprietary magazines made by Lancer, but the price isn't bad. About the same as a 33rnd GLOCK G18 mag. So I'll be paying about the same price for magazines either way. I love the way both weapons feel, but the Vector does have the edge as far as aesthetics.

Edit: scratch that. Looks like the MPX mags are about $15- $20 more than G18 mags. But they're made by Lancer, and Lancer makes some high quality magazines.
 
Id build an ar or get the sig. I dont think the vectors are very rugged and I've seen a lot of pics of broken ones.
 
The Dude said:
The MPX does take proprietary magazines made by Lancer, but the price isn't bad. About the same as a 33rnd GLOCK G18 mag. So I'll be paying about the same price for magazines either way. I love the way both weapons feel, but the Vector does have the edge as far as aesthetics.

Edit: scratch that. Looks like the MPX mags are about $15- $20 more than G18 mags. But they're made by Lancer, and Lancer makes some high quality magazines.
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surplus UZI mags are $10 and have been working fine since the 70's. HK54 magazines are a little more money but are equally very prevalent. while i agree that Lancer Systems makes great things, a proprietary magazine for one gun is kind of an issue when a working alternative is widely available and has a proven track record of function. if you don't mind the magazine pretty much only working with that particular firearm, then it's a non-issue.

waffle said:
Id build an ar or get the sig. I dont think the vectors are very rugged and I've seen a lot of pics of broken ones.
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i agree that the polymer cladding is prone to deformation, but the sub frame is steel and aluminum and is both strong and rigid; and overall the weapon is fairly tolerant of abuse. i've seen a lot of broken stocks and upper receivers though because the upper receiver's stock hinge is flimsy and prone to deformation. i greatly dislike the "CRB" gen 1 stock and wish they kept the pre-production stock that was a single solid piece with a steel lock up at hinge plate. why they switched it out i have no clue. the gen 2 stock is equally pathetic.
 
Club Sandwich said:
surplus UZI mags are $10 and have been working fine since the 70's. HK54 magazines are a little more money but are equally very prevalent. while i agree that Lancer Systems makes great things, a proprietary magazine for one gun is kind of an issue when a working alternative is widely available and has a proven track record of function. if you don't mind the magazine pretty much only working with that particular firearm, then it's a non-issue.


i agree that the polymer cladding is prone to deformation, but the sub frame is steel and aluminum and is both strong and rigid; and overall the weapon is fairly tolerant of abuse. i've seen a lot of broken stocks and upper receivers though because the upper receiver's stock hinge is flimsy and prone to deformation. i greatly dislike the "CRB" gen 1 stock and wish they kept the pre-production stock that was a single solid piece with a steel lock up at hinge plate. why they switched it out i have no clue. the gen 2 stock is equally pathetic.
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Normally I'd agree with you, but I'm not wanting to go with a purely AR design. For the most part it'll be a range toy. If I need a compact fighting weapon I'll grab my Steyr AUG. The MPX is close enough to an AR to be familiar, but different enough for me to not feel like I'm just buying another AR. I also like how modular the MPX is and that I can run it as a pistol all the way up to a 16" carbine, and run several calibers on one platform.
 
The Dude said:
Normally I'd agree with you, but I'm not wanting to go with a purely AR design. For the most part it'll be a range toy. If I need a compact fighting weapon I'll grab my Steyr AUG. The MPX is close enough to an AR to be familiar, but different enough for me to not feel like I'm just buying another AR. I also like how modular the MPX is and that I can run it as a pistol all the way up to a 16" carbine, and run several calibers on one platform.
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i'm sure it's a fine range toy, and it's only slightly less modular than an AR. the AR-15 gets very "same as the first" when you've handled/built/fired thousands of them (trust me i know). i have a sadly discontinued TPD AXR (which i prefer still over the MSAR and the A1 and A3 imports) which was a wonderful firearm, but i think the cost combined with it just being a "weird" gun that people aren't really looking for spelled the end of it. many shooters do like the AUG, but the price just doesn't sit well when an AR-15 or AK is sometimes less than a 3rd the price.

range toys are quite fun and and i fully encourage horribly impractical firearms just because they are interesting and different, and ultimately fun to shoot.
 
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Club Sandwich said:
i'm sure it's a fine range toy, and it's only slightly less modular than an AR. the AR-15 gets very "same as the first" when you've handled/built/fired thousands of them (trust me i know). i have a sadly discontinued TPD AXR (which i prefer still over the MSAR and the A1 and A3 imports) which was a wonderful firearm, but i think the cost combined with it just being a "weird" gun that people aren't really looking for spelled the end of it. many shooters do like the AUG, but the price just doesn't sit well when an AR-15 or AK is sometimes less than a 3rd the price.

range toys are quite fun and and i fully encourage horribly impractical firearms just because they are interesting and different, and ultimately fun to shoot.
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I had an MSAR E4 years ago and really liked it. At the time Steyr was having issues getting the AUG A3 to market and it was the closest thing I could get to a real AUG without spending $3500+ on an A1 or A2. I wound up selling it with most of my collection when I needed to make ends meet when I was unemployed. When I started working again and building my collection back up I decided that I would be going for quality over quantity and bought a genuine Steyr AUG A3 because bullpups fit me really well, especially the AUG. I went with the standard AUG mags because they are, in my opinion, the best 5.56mm magazines ever made.

I don't particularly care for the AR, even though I have one in 7.62x51mm, one in 7.62x39mm, and a lower that will be built into a 5.56mm rifle, but I recognize it's benefits and the easy availability of parts. My favorite 5.56mm rifle is the AUG and my favorite 7.62x51mm rifle is the M14, particularly the Mk14 Mod 0. Everyone has their own preferences, and for me the AUG and Mk14 are the best "life and liberty" rifles around.

But, personally, I don't feel that pistol caliber carbines and SBRs offer much, if anything, over an SBR chambered in a heavier hitting round like .300 Blackout or 7.62x39mm. It will just be a range toy for me.
 
I'm sorry but an SKS with out a bayonet just triggers my autism. :(
 
Blade hands down.

My SKS is a rare bird, it's Chinese made, but still under sino sov.. so it's not a 56, it's an SKS from China, blade bayonet, sadly not 100% matching but both serials are sub 250k. From my research, when they were still friendly Russia sent tooling and techs down to China, once they got some rolling and the techs left. China found a way to cheap out and that's the 56. So this leaves me to assume mine was made early 56 or even 55.

56 is still a fine shooter and a "sks" but that's splitting hairs on terms.

Edit: just checked, any SKS from China first 9 million had blades post that the "pig sticker" spike bayonet.
 
If it falls in your lap for right price no shame! Is yours a D or is the mag fixed?

I really want one of those red star 20 rounders for mine it may be the only way to make the SKS an uglier gun. I just am waiting for one at a price I'm willing to pay.
 
I traded a maverick model 88 for it, and something they don't tell you is that the mag well for the tapco stocks are a bit wider, so anything other than a tapco mag won't really fit, the 30 rounder in that pic fit fine in the old wood stock but after i put the tapco stock on it the mag would rattle out extremely easily, so the tapco 20 round mag i have in now isn't fixed, per se, but the only way to take it out is to lock the bolt back, so I just use stripper clips to reload it.
 
Francis E. Dec Esc. said:
Took my new 16" AR15 to the range this morning. Ran like a champ. I'll probably replace the cheap red dot with a Vortex or Holosun this Black Friday.
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not sure if those folding sights are plastic or that's just the paint, but gas blocks tend to get pretty hot with a string of shooting and i've seen more than one set of Magpuls and Diamondheads melt pretty badly on the bench. between your choices for a "cheap red dot", i would vote for the Vortex - better warranty for the money asked. there's also Lucid, Primary Arms, Hakko, and RSR. about the $250 mark buys you a whole lot of optic for the money asked.

edit: i want to personally place a recommendation for a ~$300 C-More ARW or CRW Railway red dot. C-More has had decades of positive work in optics, and their polymer line is very competitive.
 
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Remember that gun I broke in for a buddy?
yea. She's now mine.

Story, so my friend is moving to a no carry state, I helped him a ton with this that and the other, lots of packing. He said well this gun has no use to me, so I want you to have it.

He even got me with a shock because it's a hell of a gift. He called me and ran this whole thing he REALLY needed help sorting issue with it and to meet him at the gun store. I really didn't want to go but he sounded worried and said since I shot it he really wanted me there.

The bait was set, I had a half day came to help out and he told me since he can't CCW in his new state he's got lots of other guns and this kinda has no use, so he drug me to the FFL to transfer it.

Fun fact about it, it's delayed blow back, because zeee Germans make it correct or they make it correct. I'm not too thrilled with the trigger but for a sub compact it's not bad. HKP7's (my dad collects) are also delayed blow backs.

It'll be nice to have a smaller pistol in the heat as my fall backs are either my 1903 colt or makarov and both aren't exactly "man stoppers."

All in all hell of a gift for Bassomatic, but don't buy into karma if it was true i'd have been eaten by bears years ago.

edit: my desk is a mess, deal with it.

edit #2 shoulda taken the safety off to prove I'm a real G.
 

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Bassomatic said:
Fun fact about it, it's delayed blow back, because zeee Germans make it correct or they make it correct. I'm not too thrilled with the trigger but for a sub compact it's not bad. HKP7's (my dad collects) are also delayed blow backs.
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they both are gas piston delayed blow back, yes, although the steel frame of a P7 can get hot, even with the heat shield they added later on. after a string of slow fire (about 3 mags) the same area on the CCP stays a bit cooler thanks to the polymer not conducting heat as easily. unfortunately it felt to me that it stayed hotter longer than the P7 does.

as for a "man-stopper" i've had very good results with 147gr Golden Saber as well as the typical HST/GD mix.
 
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