Mecha anime & manga - Big robots. Other than Gundam.

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Wow, really? I found the two main characters to be an unbearable drag in the second half of the show, so much so that I'm more inclined to call them non-characters. Fortunately the rest of the cast are able to pick up the slack (I especially like the drama of Mitsuru and Kokoro), but story of the second half overall goes in a bad direction that doesn't live up to the intriguing mystery of the post-apocalyptic dystopian society initially presented.
... it was a huge mistake to have the main villains be aliens and go to space to fight them like it's Gurren Lagann and Kill La Kill all over again.
This frustration and disappointment leads me to conclude that Darling in the Franxx is not worthwhile, one being better off watching some other mecha show instead.
Yeah, I guess I differ from you in that I honestly couldn't give two rips about the rest of the cast aside from Hiro and Zero Two, and thought the overfocus on Mitsuru and Kokoro over the former was a huge mistake. I wanted to see more of the former couple continue to go through situations that strengthened their bond together, especially given that Hiro was starting to become a hybrid himself, and that Zero Two wasn't exactly all that pleased with it, as she still had feelings of self-loathing over her inhuman nature.

That was where I felt the series was at its strongest, and while we did get some of that in the second half, it was mainly focused on things besides them, so their scenes where like finding a glass of water in a desert.

I do agree that the decision to make the main villains what they ultimately were was a mistake though. There was very little build-up of it, and it also completely changed the whole focus of the show.

Again, I still have fond memories of the series, and still wish it get some kind of continuation to redeem the whole thing. Even so, I totally get why people dislike it.
 
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Personal recommendations:
Armored Trooper VOTOMS
The Big O
Dai-Guard
Escaflowne
Expelled from Paradise
Getter Robo Armageddon
Giant Robo - The Day the Earth Stood Still
Gun x Sword
Gunbuster
Gurren Lagann
Hades Project Zeorymer
Macross
Mazinkaizer OVA
Overman King Gainer
Patlabor
RahXephon
Space Runaway Ideon

The videogame franchise Super Robot Wars on consoles was the main reason for truly making me into mecha animes.
 
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neon genesis evangelion.
Even as someone who likes Eva, I would not recommend it to anyone. More so the rebuilds, no old evafag would suggest the rebuilds if not for the fact that Anno created that mutated piece of shit out of spite.
Anyone here watched darling in the franxx? It's good it is just coomer bait? I haven't past the first episode when launched.
Avoid Franxx and stay the fuck away from it, be it the unhinged fans or the episodes you did not watch. There is a reason neither Cloverworks, A1 nor Studio Trigger ever mentions it, because it is an abject failure on all sides as a mecha anime. If you watch or even give Franxx a simple praise, I will call you a niggerfaggot.
T'au players are just mechafags who want to play/learn 40K. Commander Farsight is even just a Char Aznable copy but with melee.

Speaking of Mecha, just going to casually drop this
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Avoid Franxx and stay the fuck away from it, be it the unhinged fans or the episodes you did not watch. There is a reason neither Cloverworks, A1 nor Studio Trigger ever mentions it, because it is an abject failure on all sides as a mecha anime. If you watch or even give Franxx a simple praise, I will call you a niggerfaggot.
You’ve made your seething hatred for that show and anyone who even has a bit of like for it very clear already. Not sure what it did to incite such strong emotions from you. Did you have a bad encounter with a fanboy or something?

Still, at the risk of you mocking me, I’m not going to stop having fond memories of it or of the two main characters. And I still encourage people to at least check it out, if only to see what all this fuss is about. Nor will I call someone a slur if they dislike it.

Anyways, back on topic. Anyone here looking forward to that Grendizer U anime coming out? The fact that it’s being directed by Mitsuo Fukuda and written by Ichiro Okouchi does give me some pause.
 
I love me some mecha anime. Some of my favorites include Great Mazinger, Votoms, Fafner, Dunbine and Macross.

I'm really excited for Grendizer U this year. Even if its shitty, I've no doubt it'll at least be an entertaining trainwreck based on the staff that's involved.
 
Can someone explain how it is Fafner became a franchise despite being a confusing mess and a blatant Eva ripoff and I mean blatantly pulling frames straight from it? Best guess I got is the producer is absolutely obsessed with it and wanted to expand(?) the universe some more when the "whole world" being at risk was only relegated to the Japanese being made sterile by some outside force.

The OP was pretty good, though, and a friend and I had some good laughs over some stupid moments including a pair of adopted parents being absolute cunts toward their "failure" of a son.
 
King of Braves Gaogaigar is the GOAT and ill fight anyone in the street if they disagree. Another good recommendation is G Gundam. The only gundam serie i can sit through the english dub.
Gao Gair Gar is amazing.
I love GaoGaiGar but it's not the only good Brave-style series. Goldran, J-Decker, Da Garn, Dendoh, and Webdiver are also amazing. Goldran probably rivals GaoGaiGar in terms of insanity as well -- don't be fooled by it being a simplistic "kids going on a funny treasure hunt" story initially.
Even as someone who likes Eva, I would not recommend it to anyone. More so the rebuilds, no old evafag would suggest the rebuilds if not for the fact that Anno created that mutated piece of shit out of spite.
I wouldn't recommend Eva because it blatantly rips off a bunch of other mecha anime. You'd be better served watching Gundam 0079, Victory Gundam, Iczer-1, Ideon, and Detonator Orgun.
Anyways, back on topic. Anyone here looking forward to that Grendizer U anime coming out? The fact that it’s being directed by Mitsuo Fukuda and written by Ichiro Okouchi does give me some pause.
It'll be a miss from me. From the trailers it looks like a crappy Gridman ripoff, and the character designs look terrible -- I especially don't like what they did to Maria. The mecha look pretty cool, though, even if they're in CGI.
Macross is a real hit or miss kind of franchise. The first series and its movie is a must watch as a romance series,* Plus is also superb with even better music, but then there's II and 7 and those shows are just terrible. Zero is okay and might as well be an elseworld story despite being a prequel.
It's one of those shows that sounds great on paper but is disappointing in execution. I actually liked Plus and 7 the best. The original solved some problems in cool ways, but the romance crap bogged it down.
Anyone here watched darling in the franxx? It's good it is just coomer bait? I haven't past the first episode when launched.
The most egregious thing about Fronx is that it blatantly rips off from Devadasy, a crappy ecchi OVA that's basically Evangelion: XXX Edition. It absolutely is coomer bait -- even the mecha are designed to be lewdable moe coomer bait.

Anyway, I'm reading the Appleseed manga right now, and despite the average OVA, I'm surprised at how good it is. It's basically Bubblegum Crisis if it were a manga and a more sophisticated story. It has gorgeous art; I wish there was more 80s mecha manga with great art like that. My personal recommendation that hasn't been mentioned yet is Xabungle -- it's got some of my favourite anime mecha/character designs, and the story is pretty cool too. Elchi was great -- I love Tomino captain women (like Sheryl in Ideon) -- and Jiron is one of Tomino's best protagonists.
 
I love Super Robot Wars and it is also what got me into mecha as a whole. Hell im learning Japanese in order to play the Z triology. Honestly if youre a mecha fan, you owe yourself to play the games and fanboy/girl whenever you see your favorite mecha appear and even do its signature move. The music in the SRW is also a banger, both from the animes and the og soundtrack.


Also i wanna go ahead and say that Bravern so far has mecha of the year for me.
 
Giant Gorg is a very fun show
it's much more of a Johnny Quest adventure thing _with_ a robot than a Robot War Chronicle show, but the animation budget is nuts for an 80s tv
sort of a Johnny Sokko / Iron Giant "Kid and his Robot Pal" thing but it gets into some good scifi as it continues
 
The most egregious thing about Fronx is that it blatantly rips off from Devadasy, a crappy ecchi OVA that's basically Evangelion: XXX Edition. It absolutely is coomer bait -- even the mecha are designed to be lewdable moe coomer bait.
Never heard of that before.

As for Grendizer U, the main thing that gives me pause is that it's written by Ichirou Okouchi, who completely screwed up the second half of Valvrave The Liberator. So there's that (also, is it weird that it and Franxx are, despite my grievances with them, two shows that I actually want to see get continuations if only to fix them?).

Ideon is a classic btw, though I heard from some that the show itself is just average, and that it's the movie Be Invoked that's the masterpiece.
 
Never heard of that before.

As for Grendizer U, the main thing that gives me pause is that it's written by Ichirou Okouchi, who completely screwed up the second half of Valvrave The Liberator. So there's that (also, is it weird that it and Franxx are, despite my grievances with them, two shows that I actually want to see get continuations if only to fix them?).

Ideon is a classic btw, though I heard from some that the show itself is just average, and that it's the movie Be Invoked that's the masterpiece.
you heard dumb
it's sorta like Eva where the tv ending is "uhh... oh shit. we're out of budget and show. yeah so... uh, the universe ends. go home." then they do the real ending in a movie
but you can't just skip the tv
a lot of Ideon is the slow realization of the circumstances more than the ending
 
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No you nigger, De:vadasy is a video game, not an anime original. The ova is just a piece of it that we will mostly never get the full picture.


and fun thing, it was designed by Kazumi Fujita, who also made the final arrangements of Zeta Gundam.

And Franxx is done by the same people who worked on Evangelion, the director Atsushi Nishigori worked on the 3 new films of Evangelion as a animation director, Masahiko Ootsuka worked on the screenplay also worked in the old evangelion, even Masayuki himself worked on franxx. Lots of people worked on evangelion before and after, I was even watching the amazon documentary and they had the franxx poster in khara studio.

the whole eva clone shit is bogus, you cant ripoff your own work. One example is Argento Soma, which the creator (Hiroshi Yamaguchi) also worked on Evangelion and they are not very similar even when people complain about it. (Its not very good tho, fuck that screaming blonde girl)
 
Franxx for me was weird, like they made mechs too lewd for my taste. In my book its coomer bait.

Will we ever get an animated Seed Astray serie? God i need to see my nibba red astray kai and Load Astray in their full animated glory.
 
Franxx for me was weird, like they made mechs too lewd for my taste. In my book its coomer bait.
Really? I mean, sure the mechs had those designs, but I didn’t really see them as being “lewd” (though the way they are piloted is another story).
I think if Franxx had delivered more consistently on "cute girl robots fighting monsters" and less on the other shit then it might have been a better show.
Yeah, hence why I keep saying that the relationship between Hiro and Zero Two was the highlight for me. It really shows why proper focus is needed for these sorts of series.

Back on topic, any mecha shows you want to see revived in the future?
 
Back on topic, any mecha shows you want to see revived in the future?
i would like to see a continuation of Super Robot Wars:The inspectors since they super cock teased us with Compatible kaiser in the end.

Alternatively i wouldnt mind seeing Super Robot Wars OG 2nd amd gaiden animated. I want to see Ialdabaoth and the shura mechs animated
 
Macross is a real hit or miss kind of franchise. The first series and its movie is a must watch as a romance series,* Plus is also superb with even better music, but then there's II and 7 and those shows are just terrible. Zero is okay and might as well be an elseworld story despite being a prequel.
Macross should just still to cool mecha fights while an idol sings. It tried to do that weird ass magical girl shtick some years back and it was bad.

Also I'll elaborate on Franxx, which is simply - Trigger has no ability to make character dynamics and slow moments, which dooms every project they take that doesn't consist on high energy action. The setup of child soldiers being exploited in an lab like environment to fuel boomers living forever while raping the earth, might have worked for a different studio, but with Trigger it was both a bore and Trigger never went dark enough or extreme enough to make it memorable. You basically have a season of setup, then a twist of ALIENS are behind the boomers and then it's a mad dash to a very generic ending. You don't even have any cool battle to make it memorable.
 
Can someone explain how it is Fafner became a franchise despite being a confusing mess and a blatant Eva ripoff
Something being a 'ripoff' or not is not an indicator of popularity. The series must have done well enough financially to warrant sequels. I found it a pleasant watch, with a well-written story an no major hiccups.

Back on topic, any mecha shows you want to see revived in the future?
Break Blade. If Full Metal Panic could be revived, I still hold hope for Break Blade to receive the same treatment.

Why am I here, I've never once admitted to being a robot
I'm kind to Harry Potter fans:
Gundam except replace the gundam stuff with hogwarts only they forgot the hogwarts part.
 
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