Matthew Prince lied.

[Dojima's Dragon]

Because troons are the sledgehammer to their degeneracy. They push the weird shit the elites themselves that they don't want to be lynched for. Which is clearly childfucking and every other red room nonsense. So they can one day come out and say that they diddle kids and be lauded as heroes. For screwing a 5 year old.

Troons disgusting normies get them off. Consider a good chunk of the green agenda involves stripping things from normies and humiliating them. The bug eating, the removal of cars, the incoming death toll from winter soon, same logic.

Also, there is historical precedence of Troons in power. In the ancient world, they were called Eunuchs. 2 empires of note. Byzantine and Ancient China. Both had Eunuchs, both acquired alot of power over time because of their dickless diligence (what no-cooming does to a man), got to a point where they led militaries... and it promptly went to hell. So the troon and the emperor is nothing new.

The more i read about trannies the more my hatred for them becomes stronger also it makes me wonder why mocking troons is sort of taboo in the middle east or not thrown off rooftops

 

[Emo Crow]

Jesus fuck. The lengths to which people are willing to go to have content taken down just because they don't like it or disagree with it is utterly fucking astounding.

 

[WelfareNiggerQueen]

matthew prince took a very anti-censorship stance in 2011 when LulzSec was using their DoS protection and going around defacing .gov websites.

https://blog.cloudflare.com/lulzdsec-censorship-and-cloudflare/

he even went so far as to do a talk at DEF CON about how CF (at that point in its relative infancy) managed to keep the site up despite dedicated attackers going after it 24/7.

the initial response to stormfront/8ch/here was similar, methinks that as the company has grown shareholders have more leverage to demand he take certain actions.

The instant you go Public the circle jerk of Blackrock, State street, Vanguard, Fidelity, and the rest of the largest investment firms, each buy at least 10% each of available stock and out of them Blackrock is the swinging dick who's headed by Larry Fink (The ESG cunt).

Despite being 7% of business in the US the finance sector controls the overall majority of wealth in America (can't find the exact percentage anymore but last time i saw it, it was close to 70%).

 

[Machinist]

How the hell can Price admit that dropping 8chan and fucking Stormfront, of all things, was a mistake, and yet still go and turn tail and cave to pressure anyway when it comes to this site?

It's fairly simple if you look at it in terms of money. I can't say much about the 8chan and SF drop because it was before Cloudflare's IPO, but since they went public recently Price has an additional responsibility to the shareholders that own parts of his company to not intentionally lose their money. Cloudflare's stock price dropped with every other tech stock this week. Regardless of the true cause of that drop, investors could easily look at the price drop and the campaign that Lucas has put together and make an assumption that they're related. The last thing you want is your company's shareholders having an issue with the way you're running the company/managing their money. Best case, they ask you to step down as CEO, worst case you're paying out a class action lawsuit. Josh would be wise to look for a privately owned replacement. That way he can at least know that whoever owns that company doesn't have the additional masters that Price has to contend with.

 

[Candle Crusader]

thankfully our immortal leader joshua moon is making his own hosting thing, doesn't have ddos protection yet but it's getting there!

 

[Cavalier Cipolla]

The unfortunate reality that unless and until the right gets off it's ass and manages to create a parallel Internet this will keep happening.

The unfortunate reality is that the right WON'T get off its ass and create a parallel Internet that isn't just the same thing as the left wing Internet echo chamber, just with the political spectrum switched. All it will make is a parallel right wing NPC Internet. Nothing of quality will change, just the colors.

What we need isn't "free speech" that is actually just hyper partisan right wing free hate speech, but proper free speech that doesn't belong to any party. But people will need to stop treating the Internet as a substitute to real life, outside the utility and infrastructure part of it, but rather as something parallel to real life or perhaps as a tool to IMPROVE the real life.

Come to think of it, that Fox 11 description of 4fags "treating the Internet like a real life videogame" would be the perfect way to treat the Internet. Like in the good old days. Let the hyper partisan left and right just maul each other to death.

Remember the time when Kikebook and other social media was (apparently) used for coordinating the Arab Spring uprisings, and possibly many others? Those were the good days of the Internet. But perhaps, it's for the better for the parties involved that anon platforms like Telegram are being used for that for proper opsec.

 

[~Marika~]

Jesus fuck. The lengths to which people are willing to go to have content taken down just because they don't like it or disagree with it is utterly fucking astounding.

*Don't want people reading how they want to rape children.

 

[BlerdBjern]

Sites like 4chan get away with far worse shit because the whole site is an chaotic mess of bots, shitposting and good old fashioned porn that drowns out everything until it's inevitable deletion. This forum on the other hand is well organized, cataloged, visible but it's most viable asset is it's permanence.

The thread discussing Keffals and their grooming behavior isn't going anywhere, anyone with an Internet connection can read his thread and see for themselves what kind of person Keffals is.

Another issue I've noticed is how obsessed the Internet is with porn and sexuality. You don't mess with a persons porn, you don't laugh at a persons fetishes, it's the new sacred cow and transgenderism is underpinned by a fetishistic life style.

I'm honestly fine with the existence of porn and fetishes and what not...

I mean I have my own fetishes and stuff, but I don't go spewing them everywhere on public forum where all sorts of people go to like twitter, under my real fucking name and with a picture of my goddamn face.

Keep that shit confined to communities meant for it, they exist. Don't put it on something like twitter or facebook where anyone can stumble on it and be scarred for life.

I have no doubt there have been kids traumatized for fucking life cause they found some troons porno twitter full of art eroticizing getting eaten by a UWU OC and then the bones being shit out or something vile like that.

 

[BallsMcLongDong]

I leave you kids home alone for 2 minutes, and you let the goddamn Les Troonfant Terribles slap your pee-pees.

I bet Keffals is feeling pretty high and mighty, so is Matt Prince. You can lie to everyone else, but you can only lie to a mirror for so long.

Glad Moon-man had a backup.

 

[Just a Retard]

Meanwhile in @kotaku comments...

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So, a immediate threat to human life?

 

[Hummelsine]

matthew prince took a very anti-censorship stance in 2011 when LulzSec was using their DoS protection and going around defacing .gov websites.

https://blog.cloudflare.com/lulzdsec-censorship-and-cloudflare/

he even went so far as to do a talk at DEF CON about how CF (at that point in its relative infancy) managed to keep the site up despite dedicated attackers going after it 24/7.

the initial response to stormfront/8ch/here was similar, methinks that as the company has grown shareholders have more leverage to demand he take certain actions.

Things have changed since then. In the last ten years, we've seen the end of tolerance. People truly believe that there are some who should be deprived of their (nonviolent) words. It's a classic historical problem and you'll see a lot of people moving forward pulling out a gotcha card with "The Paradox of Tolerance" written on it to justify their new positions on infrastructure services being able to actively choose their clients while maintaining a self described ethos of serving all those in need.

It's a spook to say that tolerance requires intolerance of those who are intolerant. That idea falsely implies that intolerance is the issue, instead of the actions that intolerance transmutes into when action is taken. There is enough space in the world for people to simply not like each other. The rise of the (centralized) Internet has given average people the unfounded notion that the Internet is very small. They can only name six or seven websites, and they feel confident that other communities that they hear tell of yet know nothing about are similarly monolithic, powerful, and, most importantly, possessed and united in a specific ideology.

We've lost a lot of things in the last decade, but the thing I mourn most is our departure from nuance.

 

[Titanium Vagina]

matthew prince took a very anti-censorship stance in 2011 when LulzSec was using their DoS protection and going around defacing .gov websites.

https://blog.cloudflare.com/lulzdsec-censorship-and-cloudflare/

he even went so far as to do a talk at DEF CON about how CF (at that point in its relative infancy) managed to keep the site up despite dedicated attackers going after it 24/7.

the initial response to stormfront/8ch/here was similar, methinks that as the company has grown shareholders have more leverage to demand he take certain actions.

Holy moly I never knew this. What an absolute hypocritical douche

 

[Slap47]

what makes me mad at the internt is how they seem so smug about it on twitter, god im glad i dont use that site anymore.

These fuckers are lucky we dont actually harass and target people, because if we did they wouldnt be this bold.

KF culture is a moderating force. If the site dies stuff will go crazy.

The cloudflare statement is one of the most retarded things I've ever read on the net.

Agree with Josh, it's clearly rushed, they were going to pull the plug regardless and the language is vague and nonsensical, clearly very quickly slapped together with no thought.

Matthew you are a gutless worm and are doing far more harm than you currently realise.

I suspect that Mathew knows exactly how much harm they are doing and do not care. Principles go as far as inconvenience.

 

[Thirteenfifty]

Even if troons are able to shut down the forum, we still win. We win because we haven't mutilated our bodies. Most of us will go on to live normal, happy lives without having to seek validation from random people on the internet. The fulfillment of living a simple life is something a terminally online troon will never know.

To the troons - it doesn't matter how much propaganda you get from governments and multinational corporations. People will always have a natural revulsion towards you. You can shut down every troon critical website and you'll still hear people laughing behind your back. It must suck, I'd feel bad for you if you weren't such vindictive cunts. Let people have a laugh at you, you don't need to view this website. Just pretend we don't exist.

A bit of a cope but definitely true. if the farms went down I would be pretty bored for a bit but life would go on, maybe I'd have to resort to other sites for lolcow content and do productive shit a bit more often but in a month or two it would make no difference in my life.

Meanwhile, Trannies spend every waking moment they can online on places like discord, twitter, or some VR game where they can roleplay as a woman or a child or whatever the fuck. When they look outside things are grey and cold, and when they walk to the store for groceries they buy with their neetbux or meager online income (because they can't work a real job where they deal with people face to face) people give them suspicious looks and fake smiles, nobody wants to talk to them. Their families disowned them or humored their "lifestyle" but keep their distance because their child turned into a freak fetishist that cut off their own dick and can't have kids, the troons think about this often despite coping trying to avoid it all day with escapism.

Escapism is all they have because they've been fooled into living a delusion and harming their bodies with extremely invasive and irreversible surgeries, average people view them with pity at best and revulsion at worst. They can't handle any threat to their delusions, especially in their escapist spaces, places like PC games, forums, and social media sites because their entire life exists there. It's why they fight so hard against reality and people that question them, their entire fragile lives are at risk just from someone calling them by their old name or bringing up reality in other ways.

 

[charlesdickens]

Sites like 4chan get away with far worse shit because the whole site is an chaotic mess of bots, shitposting and good old fashioned porn that drowns out everything until it's inevitable deletion. This forum on the other hand is well organized, cataloged, visible but it's most viable asset is it's permanence.

The thread discussing Keffals and their grooming behavior isn't going anywhere, anyone with an Internet connection can read his thread and see for themselves what kind of person Keffals is.

Another issue I've noticed is how obsessed the Internet is with porn and sexuality. You don't mess with a persons porn, you don't laugh at a persons fetishes, it's the new sacred cow and transgenderism is underpinned by a fetishistic life style.

What about 8chan though? It's a similar chan board but fell off. I think a site like 4chan can just get away with it because it is so big and monolithic anymore, just like the rest of the big sites ran by a few big corporations that control the internet.

I do agree that I think porn is really fucking people up in real life. Isn't like 40% of the internet porn? I'm not against porn or trying to push the question of "what's obscene" but I do think porn has actually normalized more degradation towards women, sites like Blacked that have become mainstream memes have hurt actual young black dudes, and it's fucked up that incest is like the largest category of porn. It's a chicken or the egg thing sometime with these fetishes and whether porn popularized it or was there actually a demand. Not to mention most of the people in the porn industry and not mentally stable or have a ton of problematic issues themselves.

One of the trickiest things I think has always been that rape fantasies have been high on the list for women. Of course rape is abhorrent though. I assume it's just wanting a strong man to overpower and control, maybe arguably a primal base urge. It just gets worse when something consensual gets turned around and it's mostly on the man as he played the non-submissive role. Plenty of the "strong independent woman" types are totally submissive sexually. Things like choking weren't common in porn until more recently and more women than ever are into that from my experience.

I don't know what can be done. It just seems everything has lost nuance in discussion. Everything is so polarized into an all-or-nothing.

 

[Super Dilator Duel 3D]

I'm honestly fine with the existence of porn and fetishes and what not...

I mean I have my own fetishes and stuff, but I don't go spewing them everywhere on public forum where all sorts of people go to like twitter, under my real fucking name and with a picture of my goddamn face.

Keep that shit confined to communities meant for it, they exist. Don't put on something like twitter or facebook where anyone can stumble on it and be scarred for life.

I have no doubt there have been kids traumatized for fucking life cause they found some troons porno twitter full of art eroticizing getting eaten by a UWU OC and then the bones being shit out or something vile like that.

Anyone who talks about their genitals or sexual fetishes online is a grade A retard. Sorry not sorry.

 

[Mr.PiggyOinkOinkOinkOink]

First world and internet.

Back in the day if you wanted to learn something or get something done you likely had to go out into the real world and interact with it.

You couldn't just block people if they said something you disagreed with. You either had to navigate the conversation in a civil manner or politely disengage.

Just this alone forced you to learn how to put up with other people.

“Either had to navigate the conversation in a civil manner or politely disengage”

Which one does that guys parents “curb stomp a tranny” fall under?

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

Jesus fuck. The lengths to which people are willing to go to have content taken down just because they don't like it or disagree with it is utterly fucking astounding.

It's not that they don't like us. Keffals challenged us, saying his history was squeaky clean, and we proved otherwise. We dug so deeply and uncovered so much shit Lucas will never get clean if it goes mainstream.

Does Kotaku use Cloudflare?

I really think we should just all report every questionable piece of content on every Cloudflare protected site and just overload their Abuse email box.

No gay ops.

 

[namelesstacotruck]

It's fairly simple if you look at it in terms of money. I can't say much about the 8chan and SF drop because it was before Cloudflare's IPO, but since they went public recently Price has an additional responsibility to the shareholders that own parts of his company to not intentionally lose their money. Cloudflare's stock price dropped with every other tech stock this week. Regardless of the true cause of that drop, investors could easily look at the price drop and the campaign that Lucas has put together and make an assumption that they're related. The last thing you want is your company's shareholders having an issue with the way you're running the company/managing their money. Best case, they ask you to step down as CEO, worst case you're paying out a class action lawsuit. Josh would be wise to look for a privately owned replacement. That way he can at least know that whoever owns that company doesn't have the additional masters that Price has to contend with.

The stock has been crashing sense its high of 200 bucks anyways. The recent dip is just the stock following its natural trends. Its possible investors got nervous, its equally possible some big sjw group threatened to short them.

If Kiwis want to punish Cloudflare, short it. It takes less than you think to trigger the algo bots they have running to pick up on it and react by joining in.

It will probably pay off for you too. Cloudflare has shown its lost its niche in the market. And the stock seems like it has further to fall.

 

[sidekek]

thankfully our immortal leader joshua moon is making his own hosting thing, doesn't have ddos protection yet but it's getting there!

unless the donations really start rolling in there's no possible way for jewsh to bootstrap an in-house CDN/DoS-protection platform capable of really holding up under attack. from experience, you need a team of autists that are really into packet analysis to generate heuristics for dropping bad requests, and enough seed capital to lean on a couple independent datacenters/an external CDN solution.

I'd send him a couple ETH if he announced that he was trying, but the chances of it actually working are miniscule.

The unfortunate reality is that the right WON'T get off its ass and create a parallel Internet that isn't just the same thing as the left wing Internet echo chamber, just with the political spectrum switched. All it will make is a parallel right wing NPC Internet. Nothing of quality will change, just the colors.

What we need isn't "free speech" that is actually just hyper partisan right wing free hate speech, but proper free speech that doesn't belong to any party. But people will need to stop treating the Internet as a substitute to real life, outside the utility and infrastructure part of it, but rather as something parallel to real life or perhaps as a tool to IMPROVE the real life.

this is spot on, and the only place where I have experienced this kind of free speech in the last 10 years is on IRC and the Fediverse.
the end answer will always be p2p-related.