MASSIVE Erection Thread 2016 - Lizard has the advantage. Trump is spiraling towards defeat.

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All discussion of the candidates, updates and results should go here

For example- here's a video of Ted Cruz vying for world domination.


Also Hilary Clinton is a crook and nobody should have sex with her.

Discuss

(Note- The title will change as we get nearer the election, previous titles will be archived in the OP)
 
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Male Idiot said:
Somehow he is not broke living in a soup kitchen, so he did SOMETHING right, whatever that was.
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Getting involved with corrupt Russian oligarchs was a wonderful business move...especially when wall street stopped financing his ass because he sucks. Gotta make up that shortfall somehow.
autisticdragonkin said:
That doesn't matter. He is a symbol of a movement and others in the movement will apply the economic policies
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What policies? The guy's vague at best. At worst he's downright psychotic and his ideas will damage the livelihoods of people all over the world (and especially America). Also if Trump is a symbol of your "movement" you might want to rethink what it is you actually believe in. Just a polite suggestion.

I gotta ask this question to you guys, what exactly does Trump want other than that stupid, impossible, wall? I really don't get the appeal. Everything that comes out of his mouth is contradictory or just flat out stupid and incoherent. Voting for him because you think Clinton is the devil is at least somewhat understandable. But people actually love this guy. Not a lot of people, I mean he's a historically unpopular candidate. But enough for it to matter. Like, I don't know anybody, even people voting for Clinton, who love Clinton. At best they think she's competent. Trump though? Dude's got a rabid fanbase. And I really can't figure it out, because every time he talks I'm reminded by turns of this and this.
 
feedtheoctopus said:
gotta ask this question to you guys, what exactly does Trump want other than that stupid, impossible, wall? I really don't get the appeal. Everything that comes out of his mouth is contradictory or just flat out stupid and incoherent.
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I, for one, don't "love" Trump. I merely made a decision with my reasons as follows:

  • Who will do less damage to my rights, and those of my loved ones? Hillary has a known anti-firearms ownership bent, so that's one amendment she seeks to chisel away at. And Barack Obama pushes her as his successor - do I want more unconstitutional use of executive orders to bypass the judicial and legislative systems to push an agenda on this matter? Do I want to risk a president who'll just continue the backdoors snooping that went on under Obama?
  • Does she support the working class and the tradesmen of this country? Does she want to keep American jobs American, and incentivize corporations to stay here? Hillary flip-flops on this - see her stances on the TPP, but Trump, Trump has been consistent on his issues with my demographic.
  • Borders are the reflection of sovereignty of a nation and the independence of it's people. Why should I condone the illegal criminals, no matter how sad their circumstances, in further commission of their crimes? Why should there be leniency when every one that goes unpunished will steal food from the mouths of American children, steal labor from the hands of an American tradesman, and generally weighs down a already buckling system?
  • Who will do less damage overall?
I chose the less damaging candidate. I did not choose the more moral one. I never asked for morals. I asked for strength, and I asked for defense of my values.
 
I've realized that while I despise HRC, I stand to lose far less under her than with Emperor Trump.

I'm too brown to be safe should Trump somehow take things to Purge levels, and too poor to leave the country.
 
Corypheus said:
Who the fuck is Khizr Khan?
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DerSandstrom said:
He's the father of a soldier who was killed in Iraq. Apparently he was flipping out on Trump during the DNC.
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Exactly. His son was killed early in the Iraq war when a car bomb went off. And instead of reassuring that patriotic Muslims would still be allowed to serve, he questions who wrote Khan's speech for him, suggested his greiving mother couldn't speak because of Islam, and tried to put the fact he 'works very hard' on the level of dying for your country.
 
Radical Goodspeed said:
I've realized that while I despise HRC, I stand to lose far less under her than with Emperor Trump.

I'm too brown to be safe should Trump somehow take things to Purge levels, and too poor to leave the country.
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Call me optimistic, but I don't see him culling all minorities or "sending Blacks back to Africa". If anything, either candidate will exasperate tensions between races even further than they already are for differing reasons (Hillary because she is pretty much Obama 2.0, and Obama has done a damn good job of driving a massive wedge in between race relations with his policies and speeches. Trump because of his lack of filter and checkered reputation.) Both candidates fucking suck. We've got an egomaniacal, self-serving buffoon against one of the most corrupt, self-serving politicians this country has seen since Nixon. I still feel that Trump is a slightly better candidate than Clinton is, but that's like comparing tuberculosis with smallpox.

Legatus Lanius said:
Exactly. His son was killed early in the Iraq war when a car bomb went off. And instead of reassuring that patriotic Muslims would still be allowed to serve, he questions who wrote Khan's speech for him, suggested his greiving mother couldn't speak because of Islam, and tried to put the fact he 'works very hard' on the level of dying for your country.
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Trump has absolutely no goddamn tact. Part of that may be because he's not a "career" politician like Hillary is, but saying that you"created jobs" is the equivalent of dying for your country is incredibly ignorant. He's not doing me any goddamn favors in trying to get my vote.

He's just lucky he's going against one of the worst candidates for the Democratic Party since its inception.
 
Tranhuviya said:
I, for one, don't "love" Trump. I merely made a decision with my reasons as follows:

  • Who will do less damage to my rights, and those of my loved ones? Hillary has a known anti-firearms ownership bent, so that's one amendment she seeks to chisel away at. And Barack Obama pushes her as his successor - do I want more unconstitutional use of executive orders to bypass the judicial and legislative systems to push an agenda on this matter? Do I want to risk a president who'll just continue the backdoors snooping that went on under Obama?
  • Does she support the working class and the tradesmen of this country? Does she want to keep American jobs American, and incentivize corporations to stay here? Hillary flip-flops on this - see her stances on the TPP, but Trump, Trump has been consistent on his issues with my demographic.
  • Borders are the reflection of sovereignty of a nation. Why should I condone the illegal criminals, no matter how sad their circumstances, in further commission of their crimes? Why should there be leniency when every one that goes unpunished will steal food from the mouths of American children, steal labor from the hands of an American tradesman, and generally weighs down a already buckling system?
  • Who will do less damage overall?
I chose the less damaging candidate. I did not choose the more moral one. I never asked for morals. I asked for strength, and I asked for defense of my values.
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Do yourself a favor and stop believing in Trump, give up on the dead horse that is nationalism (getting all feelsy at the sight of a flag won't save you) and realize Trump not only expresses contempt for civil liberties and human rights on a daily basis, he also surrounds himself with people who are exactly the things you claim to hate about Clinton but somehow even worse. Manafort is a scumbag of the highest order. He's got a Goldman Sachs vet as his finance chairman. Not only that he's released a list of potential SCOTUS picks that are basically all a bunch of neoliberal types who are going to actively work against the constitution in order to bolster GOP policies (which includes not only free trade but privatizing national parks and denying voting rights to people). Hell, just look at Pence. The few powerful friends Trump has are not opposed to the TPP in the slightest and they will pass it the moment he gets into office. Hell, Trump's campaign basically went to Kasich and offered him total control of policy decisions. Trump doesn't even want to be president seemingly, the man is doing this for his own narcissism.

Trump is lying to you. He is not some friend of the working class. We're talking about a man who is under investigation for wage theft.

As for immigrants, they're not the people fucking you over. That would be people like Trump and his friends.

The closer you look at Trump the more his rhetoric falls apart and it becomes baffling that people actually believe him.
 
I love how that whatever Trump says, people who say they're making "informed, nuanced decisions about the candidates" will support him with fanatical zeal or at least downplay his comments to ridiculous extents. Shit that, if Hillary had said it, they'd be standing on the rooftops trumpeting how she hates America and Americans and the soldiers and guns and and and.

Lemme ask anyone who's special enough to be in this thread something. For the Trump brownshirts supporters, is there anything at all that could get you to vote for Hillary? And for the Hillary shills supporters, is there a situation where you would vote for Trump? Saying you'd vote for third parties instead isn't an answer, neither is spoiling a ballot or voting for Null.
 
MarineTrainedTard said:
Well, Trump was born into an outrageously wealthy family, so one of the main things he did right is not blow all of his inherited wealth (which, while not exactly a Herculean task, is not something every person who was once in that position can say).
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Apparently he would've made more money investing his inheritance in a low-index fund than whatever it is Trump Inc. does besides somehow make casinos and college students bankrupt.
 
Bulk Bogan said:
I love how that whatever Trump says, people who say they're making "informed, nuanced decisions about the candidates" will support him with fanatical zeal or at least downplay his comments to ridiculous extents. Shit that, if Hillary had said it, they'd be standing on the rooftops trumpeting how she hates America and Americans and the soldiers and guns and and and.

Lemme ask anyone who's special enough to be in this thread something. For the Trump brownshirts supporters, is there anything at all that could get you to vote for Hillary? And for the Hillary shills supporters, is there a situation where you would vote for Trump? Saying you'd vote for third parties instead isn't an answer, neither is spoiling a ballot or voting for Null.
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I in no way endorse either but if Trump retracted his statements about Prisoners of War and his anti-veteran comments, I would be 200% more likely to OK him. Maybe he has and I haven't heard about it, but that shit was lower than low.
 
The_Doctor said:
To anyone who saw the Trump Sacrifices story today, please read the actual transcript and make your own opinions on it.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/setting-the-record-straight
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That transcript somehow makes him seem even worse

Bulk Bogan said:
Lemme ask anyone who's special enough to be in this thread something. For the Trump brownshirts supporters, is there anything at all that could get you to vote for Hillary? And for the Hillary shills supporters, is there a situation where you would vote for Trump? Saying you'd vote for third parties instead isn't an answer, neither is spoiling a ballot or voting for Null.
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If Trump gave a press conference where he admitted that he doesn't know what he's doing, that he's a shitty person, and that he is going to a Zen retreat for a few weeks to "really learn to get myself in order", then came back, totally changed his political views on literally everything, left the GOP and ran as an independant with no hope of winning, then maybe, maybe I'd vote for him.
 
Gym Leader Elesa said:
I in no way endorse either but if Trump retracted his statements about Prisoners of War and his anti-veteran comments, I would be 200% more likely to OK him. Maybe he has and I haven't heard about it, but that shit was lower than low.
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He is literally incapable of admitting error on any subject at any time, no matter how clearly and obviously he has gotten shit wrong or just outright lied. That is not a character trait compatible with good judgment. It would inevitably lead to catastrophe.
 
fcgh vgcf said:
the one thing i'm finding pretty sad with this election is that it's going to lead to the death of the word 'fascist' due to its use akin to 'fuckhead' instead of you know.. an actual political belief.
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"Fascist" has always meant "Person with authoritarian-leaning beliefs" instead of "Member of the Nazi party" since... well, I wanna say since the aftermath of WWII, really.
 
Weeny Tran said:
"Fascist" has always meant "Person with authoritarian-leaning beliefs" instead of "Member of the Nazi party" since... well, I wanna say since the aftermath of WWII, really.
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:powerlevel::autism:

yes it's always meant that, and it wasn't what i was referring to.
fascism in current culture is now used as an insult akin to 'commie' in the 50s where the only thing you'll have to qualify for to be applied the word is 'be against the current political norm'. you'll always hear people calling people like trump or hillary fascists with almost no real 'weight' behind the word anymore: it's going to lose it's meaning due to overexposure. so if we'll ever actually see a new fascist authoritarian state in europe or the americas when people begin to call against it the reaction won't be as strong as it 'should' be. desensitivity to a political threat. 'crying wolf' over things that aren't a problem.

current example of desensitivity: venezuelas food crisis from their arguably fascist government.
 
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