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Kether said:
ironically enough this is why most people don't get into comics in the first place. the nerds just going "STFU Pussy, everyone has to read all of that!" doesn't help either.

that's a huge reason manga took over with zoomers. the two biggest anime releases of the year require 5 and 30 hours of "backstory" if you want to catch up and you literally go from episode 1 to the end with no weird watch order bullshit like you need for the MCU. you can knock it out in a weekend or during lunch breaks and commutes, and the concept of compilation films help make it even easier to get all the backstory you need for the anime film you'll be watching in theaters.

There's a reason long running movie series died with the golden age and never had much continuity. audiences just got bored as shit and don't want to learn all that shit.
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It is far easier to get into anime.

"How do you get into this comic? You start with this run but only after issue 32 but stop at issue 89 and start the other comic on issue 24."

"How do you get into an anime/manga? You start at episode/chapter 1."

Comics rarely compete with that. I read the Luther Strode series and it was easy because I did not need any homework. Just grab issue 1 and you are done (though considering Luther Strode has 3 series, you start with Strange Talent, then Legend and then Legacy). As long as you do that, it is fine.
 
Incecticyder said:
"How do you get into this comic? You start with this run but only after issue 32 but stop at issue 89 and start the other comic on issue 24."
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Even a lot of the omnibus collections never have the full run, especially for issues that were crossovers for other series that Marvel had going on at the time.
 
The Token Ethnic said:
Even a lot of the omnibus collections never have the full run, especially for issues that were crossovers for other series that Marvel had going on at the time.
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From some research done in the past, Japanese fans do not mind jumping in the middle of a manga. However, comics are labyrinthine. Even if you jump in the middle of a manga, you know where the beginning is and the end will be. With comics, no matter what, everything expects you to have read issues 23-45 and 60-78, crossovers: Amazing War and Dark Legion, spin-off issues as well as entire different titles that reference some important event. There is no way to have the full context unless you read hard enough to make it a job as opposed to a hobby.
 
Incecticyder said:
With comics, no matter what, everything expects you to have read issues 23-45 and 60-78, crossovers: Amazing War and Dark Legion, spin-off issues as well as entire different titles that reference some important event. There is no way to have the full context unless you read hard enough to make it a job as opposed to a hobby.
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That's just when the title character(s) and or group doesn't spilt up, joins other group, leaves that group, and either goes solo or joins another group. Or worse is a member of multiple groups at the same time. While concurrently also having multiple comic titles.
 
Fatsuit Shinji said:
That's just when the title character(s) and or group doesn't spilt up, joins other group, leaves that group, and either goes solo or joins another group. Or worse is a member of multiple groups at the same time. While concurrently also having multiple comic titles.
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Amazing, Spectacular, Superior or whatever. It becomes impossible to follow a big character and boring to follow a smaller one as there is not a lot of material.
 
Incecticyder said:
Lucky guess but were the "Superstar Artists" that thought they could write another reason?
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They're not even on the list and for what it's worth watching the comic crash unfurl in real time was morbidly entertaining as fuck.

Bigger reason is the realization of nothing is going to get better and inevitably everything is going to get worse. Due in part of the reset button being periodically press to maintain the "status quo is god" mandate. Speaking as a Spider-Man and X-Men reader.
 
Fatsuit Shinji said:
Missing the other major component of doing the homework, money. Prior to digital age and sailing the seven seas, locating and buying the relevant comics, graphic novels, trades and etc. is ludicrously expensive for what you'll be getting.
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tbf other than milestone events which are in the trades, like "Captain Bulge's first eye beam" your ancient floppies (last I checked decades ago lol) were often below cover price, and from being a Warlock fag I got the first issue with HIM for like, a buck because the back cover was eaten by rats and somebody doodled a moustache on the chick occasionally, but I still got it with no real money
 
Fatsuit Shinji said:
Those were the good old days before "comic grading" and comic speculators inflated the prices.
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one time my mom and dad were picking me up from bi-mon-sci-fi-con and my dad ghosted his way into the dealer's room, then came back with an armful of old cowboy comics from the dime bins and asked my mom if she had any cash
 
Fatsuit Shinji said:
This is just one of many, many reasons on why I nope TF on mainstream comics back in the 90s.
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I was complaining the other day about how ever since League of Legends and Overwatch every goddamn video game feels like the "he has the hat so he can spin the firetruck twice this turn" meme where you have to read a fucking book and memorize what every different character can do before you before you can even make sense of what's even happening on the screen but then I remembered that I used to play Pokemon and Street Fighter and D&D and chess.

Honestly the defining element of "children's media" is less the subject matter and more the buy-in in terms of free time and mental bandwidth. I just don't have time/room for that shit anymore. Adults aren't supposed to. But we live in the age of manchildren.
 
I've started anime or manga right at the middle and that's not the big problem. You can always catch up. Thing is, with, for example, Dragon Ball, I only need to catch up with DB manga. Or, at least, read some summary of it until I can read it all. It's annoying, but it's not a big deal. You can buy the whole volumes later.

With comics, you don't just catch up with the F4, for example, but have to jump to Hulk, Spderman, the Avengers, X-Men (which already is like ten books), etc, to follow up. It can work for some special events, but now those events are even boring and pointless.
 
Tasty Tatty said:
I've started anime or manga right at the middle and that's not the big problem. You can always catch up. Thing is, with, for example, Dragon Ball, I only need to catch up with DB manga. Or, at least, read some summary of it until I can read it all. It's annoying, but it's not a big deal. You can buy the whole volumes later.

With comics, you don't just catch up with the F4, for example, but have to jump to Hulk, Spderman, the Avengers, X-Men (which already is like ten books), etc, to follow up. It can work for some special events, but now those events are even boring and pointless.
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I honestly love that the movies are reaching the shitshow spaghetti canon of the comics, I about pissed myself laughing during Captain Falcon when it went from a mostly self-contained story to suddenly there's a giant adamantium fossilized alien hand sticking out of the ocean with no explanation.

Can't wait for the big yellow boxes saying " *If you want to know what the fuck is going on, watch Glup Shitto vs Bingus: Escape to the House of Mummies Part II on Poob+!"
 
Prince Loki said:
One Peak and Jojo's Bizarre Adventure Superior, Capeshit inferior
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One Piss fans when I replace the cigarettes with lollypops in their cartoon about a rubber pirate and his friend who sucks on swords:

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