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Kether said:
They can just do what they did on the Social Network and just swap the faces. that way you can have the pretty actress doing lines while also having some tall person. they can even cast a man as the She-hulk.
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I do not trust current Marvel's CGI at the best of times. Remember Dr. Strange 2? Ultimately, it might be better to get a somewhat tall actress and shrink her for the non-transformation scenes. She-Hulk is stuck on permanent transformation in some of the comics. Do that. As for casting a man, no. Just no. We do not want the body of a man for She-Hulk. The fanservice is a major part of her appeal.
 
UnKillFill said:
Because the chick they went with was such a great actress...
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I would not say she was a bad actress. She was told to act like a bitch and she played that role perfectly. There was not a moment in which I considered her pleasant. But, again, that was what was asked of her. The difference is that they thought it would make her look badass as opposed to insufferable.
 
broners said:
Was anything else in that movie egregiously bad? I just thought it was mediocre.
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Ultraman Orb Dark said:
And again, they couldn't just... cast a really buff woman and get some green body paint because?
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They had already reserved the one muscular actress in Hollywood for that bit role of the quantum warrior woman in AntWaspMania
 
Stab You in the Back said:
I'm not expecting people to ruin their bodies over a fucking comic book movie, especially women.
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Setting aside the implication that developing an athletic physique is somehow "ruining your body", it's Hollywood buddy, ruining your body is what they do there.

Nick Obre said:
They had already reserved the one muscular actress in Hollywood for that bit role of the quantum warrior woman in AntWaspMania
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That's fine, nobody would remember.
 
Stab You in the Back said:
I feel like Kill Bill benefits from being released at a time when genuine asian cinema was not as readily available. (same with Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon)
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Except that genuine Asian cinema have been readily available by the time Tarantino announced he's started working on Kill Bill. What you mean is it wasn't readily available for the lazy as fuck normies who don't know the internet and only watch whatever on TV, and maybe pick up at a video rentals place.

Stab You in the Back said:
Nowadays, the boutique labels are all scrambling to license and restore every old Hong Kong martial arts film they can find. The novelty just isn't there anymore.
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The scrambling from the Johnny-come-latelys looking at the everything the early risers had already passed on.
 
XYZpdq Jr. said:
it was nothing but walk cycles
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What was? That stupid looking eye? (I'm sure you meant something else, but I don't get it XD... Sorry)
starborn427614 said:
I can't stop staring at this, it's modern art.
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I mean, that third eye effect *could* have looked cool... If it didn't look like shit...

Sam Raimi directed Dr. Strange 2... and he was WASTED.
I *know* that Raimi can pull off cheesy yet still creepy (if that was what he was actually going for with that movie) I grew up with Evil Dead, Hercules, Xena, and yeah, Spiderman. (I blame the retarded current state of the MCU over Rami ) He dropped the ball... It probably wasn't his fault though...

That "Third Eye in the forehead" *could have* been done well... But yeah it looked like ass. That probably isn't directly Rami's fault either...
 
MrJokerRager said:
I feel the winning.

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That's kind of retarded. If we assume they're not just bluffing, they're basically trying to signal to the people burned out on capeshit that they don't need to have watched the dozens of movies and TV shows over the last seven years and can just jump straight into this one because there won't be any missing context. But then, continuing on this assumption, isn't that basically telling the people who have been invested this whole time that there wasn't any point and they wasted countless hours on shit that meant nothing in the long run?

It really sounds like a desperation move to me. Capeshit in general has not been a reliable moneymaker over the past few years, and slapping the Marvel name on a movie doesn't get guaranteed asses in seats like it used to. Part of that reason has been the "homework" complaint, that if you haven't been following along the whole time, you'll have hours of shit you feel obligated to watch before you can go see the latest movie, just in case there's some reference you miss. Whether you actually need to is irrelevant, the point is that's the vibe Disney has been rolling with for years now in order to get people to consoom more product. That wasn't a huge ask when there were only a few movies in total, but now that there are thirty-seven movies plus over a dozen seasons of TV, it's flat out ridiculous.

So now here they are with an attempt to get those people to come back by saying that if you fell off the wagon after Endgame like so many other people, you can get back on without any problem. I guess they figure that the potential of losing some of the diehards by telling them their investment was worthless is less than the potential of gaining back lapsed former fans who checked out after the plot wrapped up. Combine this with how they keep dropping hints about all the big names people liked coming back again, and it just screams that the studio is desperate to get people to come back and salvage their sinking ship.

I'm gonna laugh if it falls even further off a cliff when they reboot the entire universe post-Secret Wars and shove in replacement actors for all the old characters (even the dead ones) and expect audiences to just be okay with that. I know death is pretty meaningless in comic books (and you could write a book about how that ruins any stakes involved), but I doubt it's going to work anywhere near as well in live action.
 
MrJokerRager said:
I feel the winning.
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At best, it's a Pyrrhic victory. If (and this is absolutely rhetorical, and I don't believe it at all) we take at at face value, and assume it means they're done trying to shit on all the characters people like while trying to shoehorn in a bunch of retarded uggo shitskins - it doesn't even matter, because there's no one there that can actually write, or even understand what made the movies fun or interesting in the first place. All of the old actors, outside of maybe Hemsworth and Rudd, really lack the presence they used to have. They could still be good in movies, but they'd have to be written differently than they were before, AND completely differently than current year writers are capable of - neither of which is happening.

On top of that, you've got all the issues of just the baseline way this movie (and most likely all future movies until/unless there is some sort of total regime change) was made - with no vision, no script, pieced together in various SFX shops and editing suites. Along with a basic lack of even competence in just normal shit like lighting, editing, physics, color-grading, and shot composition.

The 100% best case scenario is this will be The Force Awakens without the technical competence, but I highly doubt it will be even as good as that. Not even going to bother pirating it unless something crazy happens.
 
Your Starter for 10 said:
At best, it's a Pyrrhic victory.
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In what sense?

They lost millions*, I lost nothing. If it sucks, they continue to lose millions, and I continue to lose nothing. Their continued molestation of a corpse does not erase the existence of the films I enjoyed. If they return to form, neat; if they don't, who cares?

Best case scenario, I get pleasantly surprised with an unexpected return to mindless capeshit that isn't patently, abjectly hostile to my existence. Worst case scenario, the status quo remains exactly the same, that being "MCU ended with Endgame", and I continue to do better things with my time.

*assuming box office revenue has been their main source of income rather than USAID/Blackrock propaganda money
 
dick brain said:
In what sense?
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It's a victory in the sense that they are being forced to admit that their niggerized girl-boss retard-tier horseshit isn't working. It's pyrrhic in the sense that we still won't ever get any decent movies under the Marvel banner, which is a shame, because there are a lot of good/fun stories left to tell.
 
Your Starter for 10 said:
It's a victory in the sense that they are being forced to admit that their niggerized girl-boss retard-tier horseshit isn't working. It's pyrrhic in the sense that we still won't ever get any decent movies under the Marvel banner, which is a shame, because there are a lot of good/fun stories left to tell.
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That's like saying the UK destroying itself with gay retarded laws and infinite immigrants is a pyrrhic victory for the US because after the UK self-destructs the US won't be able to import... whatever the hell the UK exports. We don't lose anything, we just don't gain anything either. That's not a pyrrhic victory, that's just a victory.
 
King Dead said:
Part of that reason has been the "homework" complaint
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ironically enough this is why most people don't get into comics in the first place. the nerds just going "STFU Pussy, everyone has to read all of that!" doesn't help either.

that's a huge reason manga took over with zoomers. the two biggest anime releases of the year require 5 and 30 hours of "backstory" if you want to catch up and you literally go from episode 1 to the end with no weird watch order bullshit like you need for the MCU. you can knock it out in a weekend or during lunch breaks and commutes, and the concept of compilation films help make it even easier to get all the backstory you need for the anime film you'll be watching in theaters.

There's a reason long running movie series died with the golden age and never had much continuity. audiences just got bored as shit and don't want to learn all that shit.
 
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