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Or teaming up and spitroasting the Invisible Woman
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MrJokerRager
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And no Namor rape fantasies of Sue as well.
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This is how most of the comments about F4 seem to be: it was ok. Not good, not bad... just exists and didn't bother me.
People can shit talk all the want about Deadpool, but people were actually excited for the movie and after the movie:
- they did the nsync dance and made it viral
- people were listening Like a Prayer and Madonna released the movie versions as well
- everybody got excited bc of Laura, Blade, and Elektra
- it landed Channing Tatum a role in the MCU due to popular demand
- it might as well being the thing that brought back the OG x-men to the MCU
- likely final nail on the coffin (npi) for Blade movie
- memes. Memes everywhere. Even the film producers released memes
Compare that with the mood for this movie. They did everything wrong to promote it and make people excited.
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I genuinely liked it. I think it's the best possible Fantastic Four movie current MCU could of possibly made. The only thing I'm mid on is the casting. Nobody did a bad job, but the actors didn't elevate who they were playing at all.
However, the studios need to reign in all the people that do promotion. The actors and directors are acting like it's still 2020 and they need to spew the most leftist shit possible to the media. The media also probably needs to be told they can't ask woke loaded questions if they want interviews. Both this movie and Superman had retarded takes about the movie that weren't in it, and it only hurt the promotion.
I suspect Sydney Sweeney is going to do very well for herself being the first starlet to make a hard turn with the culture shift. She definitely would of been a hotter Sue, not sure how she is as an actress.
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That doesn't sound right, but I don't know enough about Namor to dispute it.
Milkshake Sniffer
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Oh no, all is not well in the MCU. "Devastating" 80% drop from first to second Friday for FF. Guess that "Daddy Pedro" effect is as expected - repulsion. Overall second weekend drop off could be interesting in a few days.
Quotes from https://variety.com/2025/film/box-o...-four-naked-gun-together-bad-guys-1236475008/
Quotes from https://variety.com/2025/film/box-o...-four-naked-gun-together-bad-guys-1236475008/
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Marvel is a toxic brand. We're at the point where I'd be surprised if a genuinely good Marvel film would be enough to move the needle. People will show up for Spidey. People will show up for RDJ. But everything else is going to be box office death.
Kathleen Kennedy was smart enough to pull the killswitch on Star Wars after two flops. Wonder why Feige didn't get the memo.
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Ranking the MCU: Every Marvel Studios Movie and Show, From Worst to Best
Whoever came up with this list certainly had some interesting takes.
About what you'd expect from the lugenpresse, I guess, though I'm a little surprised She-Hulk, Captain Marvel, Ms. Marvel and the Marvels were not in the Top 10. To stick it to the Chuds and all.
However, I think the thing that surprised me most about this list is how much of this crap I haven't watched. Probably around two-thirds, maybe more. In fact, I don't think I'd ever even heard of an Echo show before seeing it on this list. And if I had I'd long forgotten about it.
Oh, and if you want to listen to the Nerdrotic gang yucking it up like hyenas with final stage syphilis, well, here's your chance...
Can't believe I actually used to sit through those interminable livestreams. In retrospect I have no idea why. I think I made it ten minutes into this one.
Whoever came up with this list certainly had some interesting takes.
About what you'd expect from the lugenpresse, I guess, though I'm a little surprised She-Hulk, Captain Marvel, Ms. Marvel and the Marvels were not in the Top 10. To stick it to the Chuds and all.However, I think the thing that surprised me most about this list is how much of this crap I haven't watched. Probably around two-thirds, maybe more. In fact, I don't think I'd ever even heard of an Echo show before seeing it on this list. And if I had I'd long forgotten about it.
Oh, and if you want to listen to the Nerdrotic gang yucking it up like hyenas with final stage syphilis, well, here's your chance...
Chunky Salsa
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It's not bad, and he's not super repulsive in the film. He plays a henpecked, but still competent guy - his acting is a little...wooden - who loves his family and wants to help people. It's just so fucking blaaaaannnddddd. It's a lot of 'The Fantastic 4 are great, listen to all the stuff they did which would have been fun to watch'. It felt like complete filler. Also, Sue Storm gets everyone to literally disband all their armies in a short cut away gag scene going over how cool and awesome she is.
Oh and bringing a pregnant woman with you to a space adventure where you meet a dude that murders entire planets for apparently no real reason, is a completely retarded move. Holy shit.
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As has been pointed out many, many times: The only means Disney employs to create plot-advancing conflicts is making characters retarded - even when the characters are established as being the smartest in their world. Go back through the entire MCU in your mind, and you'll see that every story hinges on there being some invisible switch that gets flipped to make people act retarded in particular situations; purely to produce a contrivance capable of creating or inviting a problem which will potentially lead to another film.
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MrJokerRager
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There should have casted a much hotter and younger looking Sue Storm.
That is basically the biggest reason for why people choose FF4 characters in the video games these days.
Or reading the modern current era FF4 comics.
Chunky Salsa
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They would need to rewrite the whole film if they did that. The film was the F4 after they had already essentially won at everything. World peace has been achieved, everyone appears to be the 'plate of steak and collared greens!' level of middle class well off. The subterran kingdom was peaceful and pleasant. The only major problems appear to just mildly annoying weirdos. The entire world was essentially being co-ordinated through the Baxter building.
A MILFY Sue made sense for that.
I wouldn't be opposed to a re-write though because I did not like the film.
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So like in Superman IV: The Quest for Peace?
Reminds me of an episode of Star Trek where a character was portrayed as being overly protective for not wanting his third-trimester pregnant wife to go to a heavily irradiated planet.
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Generic world peace had been achieved. Ironically enough, before they managed to wean themselves off of coal power somehow. Reed Richards can invent a way to teleport a fucking planet, and a faster than light spacecraft in a few months, but nuclear fusion is still perpetually five years away. Funny.
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There is a chance that they will recast the whole MCU. We'd have a new Sue and also new Thor, Cap, etc.
We'll have the same Feige, though.
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Guess The Race Superbowl I.
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It's a rare thing to find competent villains and heroes in modern comic book media. Usually they're both fairly mediocre and if one isn't then they're handed the Idiot Ball at some pivotal moment to restore the balance. Off the top of my head, actual competence on both sides in the genre... the Young Justice cartoon (don't watch past S2!) had mostly smart villains who could pull off victories and had contingency plans so that even defeats often advanced their goals in some way. And the heroes did not sit around waiting for some big climactic moment they actually ran intelligence operations, training drills and more. Indeed the key idea of the YJ team was to have a more covert wing of the Justice League spun off that the villains didn't know about and which carried out reconnaissance, infiltration, etc. rather than direct confrontations. As far as the villains knew, the YJ members were still just side protegés of the JL members operating under them.
Stargirl I've mentioned before but the villains in that are genuinely competent and have the heroes out-thought on many occasions. And not because the writers turn the heroes into idiots. It's not perfect but you're rarely sitting there thinking "oh, that's dumb, why don't they just..."
For Marvel... Maybe Age of Ultron, Ultron is reasonably competent. I know people will be reaching for their keyboards to point out his plan was to drop a big city. But... they had explicitly blocked off nuclear launch codes. He wanted an extinction level event and the tech-bollocks existed to levitate the city I guess. So engineering a big "meteor" impact isn't the worst and a city provides the cover both physically and in terms of heat / energy to hide what you're building. So get an enormous mass of rock up into LEO, accelerate it to orbital speeds and send it down with the same tech you used to get it into orbit to add some extra Kinetic Energy and you've got Rods from God on steroids.
Okay, that was probably a bit of a reach, I'm struggling to think of genuinely clever MCU stuff. I liked when Galactus worked out their trick and didn't fall for it. The switcheroo was a nice idea. But on the whole the movie was just rather weak.
Reed was dispatching major villains in a throw-away scene in the background to make the planet "baby-safe" for Franklin.
Which begs the question of why he didn't do that for any of the other kids on the planet but anyway... Yes, the FF4 had essentially overcome all problems between Reed's brain and Sue's apparent diplomatic brilliance.
Reed could hopefully have persuaded them that fission was already a much better energy source than coal and had enough fuel for the next several hundred years. Maybe Friends of the Earth lobbied against it.
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For those who watched F4 already, does it have a real 60s vibe or it's more like "what Millennials think it's the 60s based on what they watched on WandaVision"?
Race is gonna be the least of our concerns once they adapt the plot to modern sensitivities. Wait for them to make it all about how hated the mutants are once we're meant to feel sorry for Phoenix attempting to destroy more worlds after they try to adapt that storyline again to show how strong women are.
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I wouldn't say it's rigorously Sixties. The TV spots and such look more 50s to me in some ways, just in colour. But that said I'm not sure it's mean to look exactly like the 60's. After all, it's not in the Sixties of this Earth. It's in the (presumably) present day of another one. We see that they're the first people into Space. The first Moon Landing was in 1969. So maybe it is meant to be an alternate very early 1960s. I don't know. What I will say is that the look of the film was one of the best aspects for me. The people doing the props deserve some kind of industry award because right down to throwaway details they're thinking about it. I liked the look of things a lot.
I guess as I'm posting, the most useless person in the movie is the woman they keep using for reaction shots. She's supposed to be someone important - the president, head of the UN? I don't really know. Or maybe she's just Sue Storm's assistant, you can't really tell. But throughout the movie whenever something is happening, it cuts away to her face. Galactus lands in New York, protestors outside the Baxter building (hilariously few, btw), we get a cut away to her watching it on TV or something. She's got maybe two lines in the film and no clear role or identity. But over and over, back to her face to tell the viewer how he's supposed to feel. It's hilarious once you notice is.
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They can just make her Muslim and it'll all be forgiven.
I'm honestly surprised nobody ever made Raven from DC a pajeet or a paki since she already has the bindi and the hijab/burka/whatever. Though I guess that would clash with her being named (((Rachel Roth))). I'd be afraid to speak this into being but I know we're never getting a decent adaptation at this point so who cares.