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Uh, Wakanda is surely a better target for such criticisms, no? Not only do they have sci-fi levels of Science, they've had it for decades longer than Tony Stark has even been around. And there's a tonne more of them so should be easier for them to provide the tech.

If I were Tony Stark, I don't think I'd want the CIA, etc. having access to my tech either. Isn't the guy running the hearing at the start of Iron Man 2 a hydra agent we see later anyway?
A lot of Wakanda's supposedly advanced technology sucks ass though. These fucking idiots have had vibranium for centuries yet never used it to make any guns. They still use spears like fucking cavmen.
 
A lot of Wakanda's supposedly advanced technology sucks ass though. These fucking idiots have had vibranium for centuries yet never used it to make any guns. They still use spears like fucking cavmen.
I'm in awe that Disney had enough cash, sycophants and gormless adorants to stop people from calling Wakanda out as racist charicature en masse. It'd be like having an "autist representation" movie where the autist nation is full of fedora-wearing, katana-wielding skinnyfats who rock back and forth and chew their fingernails during official ceremonies.
 
A lot of Wakanda's supposedly advanced technology sucks ass though. These fucking idiots have had vibranium for centuries yet never used it to make any guns. They still use spears like fucking cavmen.
Because they isolated themselves and thus, removed the impetus to improve their civilization. They also know, deep down, that their military isn't really up to the task of fighting off the entire world, so they hid and larped as a poor African nation so people would leave them alone. Their doctrine alone is stuck in the Bronze Age where their King needs to be the strongest warrior to lead from the front, thus they have a poor understanding of battlefield tactics and strategy, never mind the concept of logistics.
 
I always thought the whole "people shit on superheroes because they destroyed the city while fighting the bad guy" shit was retarded, like, i know it supposed to be realistic and shit but it always ignores the fact that if the heroes just sited with their thumbs up their asses then everyone would be fucking dead, and like, i know it's because the glowies are assholes, but how is doxing yourself to the glowies gonna stop you from destroying a building while fighting the bad guy who is gonna kill and destroy everyone regardless?
Stark is weird given he's for the Superhero Registration act, which is supporting the glow niggers by making Superheroes work for the government. Doubt he was thinking if the US government was subverted by Hydra/Skrulls/Black Widows when he demanded everyone dox themselves.
Its weird in the sense that Stark was the only character in the MCU with an emotional arc. Most of the MCU characters act from purely selfish motives (Black Widow, Spider-Man, Thor, etc.), or they never have to deal with any kind of moral dilemma because they're always portrayed as perfect (Captain America). Stark is the only one who feels any kind of guilt. Its his driving motivation. One which time after time leads him to make self-destructive decisions no other character is capable of making.
 
I always thought the whole "people shit on superheroes because they destroyed the city while fighting the bad guy" shit was retarded, like, i know it supposed to be realistic and shit but it always ignores the fact that if the heroes just sited with their thumbs up their asses then everyone would be fucking dead, and like, i know it's because the glowies are assholes, but how is doxing yourself to the glowies gonna stop you from destroying a building while fighting the bad guy who is gonna kill and destroy everyone regardless?
The one use of this trope that I actually liked was the PowerPuff Girls where they go to a "realistic" city and destroyed a 10M$ bridge to stop criminals who stole 10K$ in cash and get yelled at by the mayor in response.

Disney mobilising it's shill squad to dunk on the Zack Snyder Superman pretty much killed any chance for big epic superhero fights in cities. Now it's either "save the civilians" (while risking the villain winning), or a fight in a quarry like fucking Power Rangers.
 
They fucked up any chance of me taking Wakanda seriously in the MCU when they started the movie by showing some random people in that country having retardedly stupid plates that they somehow stuck into their lips to make them ridiculous.
There is absolutely no way in hell that a technologically advanced country would still do *this* shit.
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I would literally be more willing to believe that Wakanda still practiced female genital mutilation (as *many* other African countries still do to this day...) At *very* least that wouldn't make numerous every day activities, such as as eating or even fucking talking, significantly more difficult.
 
They fucked up any chance of me taking Wakanda seriously in the MCU when they started the movie by showing some random people in that country having retardedly stupid plates that they somehow stuck into their lips to make them ridiculous.
There is absolutely no way in hell that a technologically advanced country would still do *this* shit.
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I would literally be more willing to believe that Wakanda still practiced female genital mutilation (as *many* other African countries still do to this day...) At *very* least that wouldn't make numerous every day activities, such as as eating or even fucking talking, significantly more difficult.
If a White director told Black actors to hoot like gorillas, he would have been cancelled so fucking hard.
 
In addition to what others said about Wakanda, I'd be game for it being "merely" a fairly isolated but otherwise important pit stop on a long trade route across Africa, keeping up enough in general technology with the rest of the world through these trade/contact links, and thus using that/vibranium weaponry/natural geography/being a centralized kingdom to force European powers to leave it alone as an in-universe fellow Ethiopia/Thailand equivalent, IE not worth annexation after an unsuccessful attempt to conquer it. Hell, even its then-high tech we see in the BP movie can be waved off as a direct response to MCU events from Iron Man to the Avengers and their own engineers and scientists going overtime into research.

Really, I'm okay with a lot of things "because comics lol" but the flip side is that works way better when you actually put in the time and effort to justify (X) thing in the 'verse.
 
it's been a while since I've checked out the comics, but I recall your average day in the USA in Marvel-land looking about the same there despite space aliens showing up every few weeks and giant robots and regular robots and polar dinosaurs and whatever else
it is a big thing to overlook but it's not really anything all the other cape media is innocent of
 
I liked the approach in Batman Begins where Lucius Fox is explaining to Bruce Wayne the body armour that goes on to become the Batsuit. "Why didn't we put this into production?" "Because the US govt. didn't think that a US soldier's life was worth a quarter of a million dollars" (I can't remember the specific words / figures)

The gist of it being that we can have somewhat futuristic tech but it's not affordable for mass production. And whilst people will push back at that here there's some truth to it - there's a big jump between prototypes and sustainable mass production. And it is also a serviceable explanation for juxtaposing hero tech with normal life, so long as that explanation isn't pushed to breaking point. I don't think Iron Man 1 and 2 did. I think things like Riri building an iron man suit in her dorm room does, though.
 
I liked the approach in Batman Begins where Lucius Fox is explaining to Bruce Wayne the body armour that goes on to become the Batsuit. "Why didn't we put this into production?" "Because the US govt. didn't think that a US soldier's life was worth a quarter of a million dollars" (I can't remember the specific words / figures)

The gist of it being that we can have somewhat futuristic tech but it's not affordable for mass production. And whilst people will push back at that here there's some truth to it - there's a big jump between prototypes and sustainable mass production. And it is also a serviceable explanation for juxtaposing hero tech with normal life, so long as that explanation isn't pushed to breaking point. I don't think Iron Man 1 and 2 did. I think things like Riri building an iron man suit in her dorm room does, though.
The second we see the Iron Legion or Iron Man 3 proved armored suits can be mass produced, even if they're not as good as Stark's personal armor. That's not getting into all the other technological marvels that are introduced like providing ARC energy reactors. They don't even have to have military use either, as it's a mostly clean energy source that works practically forever.
 
Mo Doom BLAYZAH


Marvel has some animation updates:
  • "Spider-Man Freshman Year" has been renamed to "Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man."
  • Doom Blazer is seething that this series is not a part of the MCU, although he wants to see Tom Holland's Spider-Man origin
    • Nigger, they retconned Aunt May to say the great power/ responsibility line. What part of the origin is actually important?
  • What if Season 3 is coming
  • There's a Wakanda show coming out as well
Btw Doom Blazer not only stops at Goku, he also wants Godzilla to have a role in the MCU:

AI exists bro, just put an American flag on Shin Godzilla and you're good!
 
All this talk about how it's unrealistic for the world to be the same when there exists Stark's infinite clean energy from the arc reactor.

Meanwhile we're all here in the real world with infinite (well, centuries) of clean energy from regular old nuclear fission mankind is barely tapping its potential because our govts. and elites don't want us to have that. Man, Friends of the Earth campaigning has done a number on our society. If they don't want us to have nice, clean cheap power in the form of nuclear power stations, they certainly don't want us to have it in the form-factor of a baked bean can. And before anybody says "yes, but they'd want it for their militaries" that was the entire plot of IM2, trying to keep it out of their hands. IM3 as well, really.

Btw Doom Blazer not only stops at Goku, he also wants Godzilla to have a role in the MCU:
You know what? Fuck it - I want this! MCU has wrecked itself, might as well have fun. I want to see the Marvels fighting Shin Godzilla.

Captain Marvel flies up and blasts it with energy. Godzilla glares and responds with nuclear breath.
Hulk leaps into the air fists clasped for one of the WWE slams. Godzilla waves paw and Hulk disappears through a skyscraper.
Antman enlarges to 20m tall. Still looks tiny compared to Godzilla.
Ms. Marvel is not yet done squeeing adorably over how cool an actual Kaiju is.
All seems lost and then... Fantastic Four theme starts playing. A burning figure appears in the sky, a beautiful blonde appears out of nowhere on top of a nearby building, a lean and serious faced scientist is pouring over a strange pile of instruments and a gravelly voice emerging from an alley says "It's clobberin' time."

Hell yeah, if you're going to go fantastic, go Fantastic!
 
All this talk about how it's unrealistic for the world to be the same when there exists Stark's infinite clean energy from the arc reactor.

Not infinite as that one made in a cave could only last a little while moving something large. Also needed an external power source to start it up. With the way Tony was looking at that big arc reactor powering the site in Iron Man 1, there's issues going from a tech demonstrator to something remotely mass producable. Iron Man 2 the arc reactors needed a brand new plot element to get them work without known environmental problems.
 
Further reading here:

I love this snippet:
Judge Michael Gaffey also allowed public disclosure of texts and audio recording from a previous argument between the couple in September 2022. In the texts, Majors appears to dissuade Jabbari from going to the hospital after she has suffered an injury to her head. “I fear you have no perspective of what could happen if you go to the hospital,” a text from Majors to Jabbari reads. “They will ask you questions, and as I don’t think you actually protect us, it could lead to an investigation even if you do lie and they suspect something.” Majors also appears to threaten to kill himself in the text conversation, writing, “I’m a monster. A horrible man. Not capable of love. I am killing myself soon. I’ve already put things in motion.” In the audio recording, Majors can be heard raising his voice and telling Jabbari she “has to be of a certain mindset to support” him, just as Coretta Scott King supported Martin Luther King Jr. and Michelle Obama stood by Barack Obama.
 
They fucked up any chance of me taking Wakanda seriously in the MCU when they started the movie by showing some random people in that country having retardedly stupid plates that they somehow stuck into their lips to make them ridiculous.
There is absolutely no way in hell that a technologically advanced country would still do *this* shit.
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I would literally be more willing to believe that Wakanda still practiced female genital mutilation (as *many* other African countries still do to this day...) At *very* least that wouldn't make numerous every day activities, such as as eating or even fucking talking, significantly more difficult.

Wakanda is meant to be a small hidden state in Africa, yet they take a pan-African approach to culture. Just mash together a whole bunch of different stuff. Which in doing so is ignorant, disrespectful and racist against all the different cultures across the vast continent. Of course the film makes don't give a shit about actual Africans.

Then to try and create the African look to the society, amongst the flying cars and modern looking buildings. They make it African by replicated the looks of basic, poor Africa. Street vendors. Mud bricks. Hand weaved baskets and other aspects of a poverty stricken, less advanced society as directly being African culture. Like they went to some poor town in Africa, shot some b-roll and then used VFX to add modern skyscrapers in the background.
 
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